Anyway u cut it we need a slot WR/PR with speed

[casmith07]

If that's the case then Gilyard should be ruled out also.

You're absolutely right. I'm not interested in slow returners. If you can't hit that mini-gap when it opens, you're as good as a defensive tackle returning an INT.

 

[Doctor32]

Shipley makes no sense for us in any round. 4.5+ 40-time. No thanks.

Ahh... 40 times. That's Oakland Raider front office speak. Football players carry their pads well. Spare me the 40, Shipley can play.

 

[Aliencowboy]

I understand we need OL and LB etc...
But its time for some speed added to this WR corp especially in the slot and returning kicks finally.There are a number of these guys to be had.I personally want Jordan Shipley cause he is a tuff fast SOB with great hands. But I will gladly take any Desean Jackson clone as well.

I'd like to say that I mentioned this Last SEASON !!
*****ed a lot about passing up Mike Wallace in mid-rounds.
It would have changed the dynamics of the whole season.

Ok, i'm done.

Thomas from georgia tech is not a burner but a player. 19.5avg. over three years with a nothing QB.

Draft Order for round 1
Iupati- I'd play him at RT move Columbo inside to LG cut Flozell and put Free at LT
LT Free LG Columbo C Gurode RG leon RT Iupati
Earl Thomas S
Kyle Wilson CB
Pouncey C
Thomas WR
Vladimir OT

 

[kmp77]

Draft Shipley.

/thread

 

[UnoDallas]

I think there are numeruos guys who would do

Andre Roberts, The Citadel
Jacoby Ford, Clemson
Taylor Price, Ohio
Antonio Brown, Central Michigan Showed good speed and burst while displaying natural hands in the drills. Could compete for a day two slot thanks to his return ability.

if you want a guy who can play how about

Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
Height: 6-2. Weight: 206.
Projected 40 Time: 4.53.
155 receptions, 1,770 yards and 19 touchdowns.

runs about as slow as Shipley


Jordan Shipley, Texas
Undersized - small frame and unlikely to measure his listed 6'0"
Struggles to beat press coverage
Will need to extend his route tree - ran primarily short routes at Texas
Does not always catch the ball cleanly - Body catches on occasion
Does not project as a #1 or #2 receiver
Older than your average rookie - will turn 25 during his rookie season
More quick than fast - does not possess long speed

Height: 5-11. Weight: 193
Combine 40 Time: 4.57.

 

[rkell87]

I think there are numeruos guys who would do

Andre Roberts, The Citadel
Jacoby Ford, Clemson
Taylor Price, Ohio
Antonio Brown, Central Michigan Showed good speed and burst while displaying natural hands in the drills. Could compete for a day two slot thanks to his return ability.

if you want a guy who can play how about

Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
Height: 6-2. Weight: 206.
Projected 40 Time: 4.53.
155 receptions, 1,770 yards and 19 touchdowns.

runs about as slow as Shipley


Jordan Shipley, Texas
Undersized - small frame and unlikely to measure his listed 6'0"
Struggles to beat press coverage
Will need to extend his route tree - ran primarily short routes at Texas
Does not always catch the ball cleanly - Body catches on occasion
Does not project as a #1 or #2 receiver
Older than your average rookie - will turn 25 during his rookie season
More quick than fast - does not possess long speed

Height: 5-11. Weight: 193
Combine 40 Time: 4.57.

dont know who wrote that on shipley but its dead wrong about his routes he ran the full route tree, but yeah alot of spread offense routes are short, and he is just about the epitome of a catch it with your hands receiver and just stop with the slow crap anybody who has ever watched mccluster or shipley play knows they are faster than a 4.5 and both will run better at their pro days.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Brandon Banks.

 

[Macnalty]

dont know who wrote that on shipley but its dead wrong about his routes he ran the full route tree, but yeah alot of spread offense routes are short, and he is just about the epitome of a catch it with your hands receiver and just stop with the slow crap anybody who has ever watched mccluster or shipley play knows they are faster than a 4.5 and both will run better at their pro days.

Lots of Dialog on the man, this was before the combine, maybe the numbers are more significant now with the playing season over but here is what one noted Mock Man states:
STRENGTHS
Jordan is quick, fast and the type of receiver that lets a QB sleep good at night. He is very dependable and smart; he reads and reacts to defenses as he is running his route. Jordan has quick feet which makes it easy for him to cut on a dime and he's fearless going over the middle when running crossing routes. He shows great vision, which helps him to break tackles and he shows strong run after the catch ability. Jordan has excellent hands and will catch everything thrown his way. He is very good on special teams. Overall, Jordan is an impact player who is very smart and thinks while on the field in tandem with his QB and coaches on the sideline. Jordan is the "ace in the hole" type of player for your passing game because of his football intelligence, athletic talent and ability to read and react to the defense after the snap of the ball.

NEEDS TO IMPROVE
Jordan may not be a number one receiver because he absorbs too much punishment and injuries could cut down his ability to stay on the field. If he can bulk up and learn to protect himself, he could easily become a #1 WR for the team that drafts him.

BOTTOM LINE
Jordan is the type of player that could be drafted in the first round or drop all the way to the fourth round. Some people are not convinced that he can become a #1 WR because of his size and lack of bulk. I go by LTI (Length of Time to Impact team) -- how quickly can Jordan help and become an impact player after you draft him? (Personally I feel if more teams drafted with LTI in mind instead of potential, they would have more impacting drafts and maybe there would be less turnover in the coaching ranks.) Because of Jordan's intelligence and maturity, you can move this kid around all over your offense in the passing game and make him a match-up nightmare for the opponents' DBs. He can make an immediate difference on special teams as well. Therefore, the team that is smart enough to draft Jordan in whatever round is going to get a "total package" player who will be able to impact right away. I call him Jordan (Ace) Shipley because if you move him around your offense in the passing game he will become your ace in the hole...and nothing beats having an ace in the hole.

That being noted, he is not shiny enough for me at this time, we do need a difference maker in the mode of Harvin, Welker, whether that be Jacoby, Javid Best, or Golden Tate, I am sure there are others with the jitterbug trait to server our evil purposes. We draft Shipley and I think the word evil genius is not in our description. Now give me Carlos Dunlap, Linval Joseph, Mike Johnson, these are guys you want to go to war with in the NFCbeast and this is a war for the superbowl 2011.

 

[juck]

lol...juck's back from the dead.

Been wrapped up over at Dallasbasketball.com watching my MAVS win 13 straight.:

 

[masomenos]

You know, maybe I missed something, but didn't our current punt returner have the hight return average of any player with 30+ returns? Didn't he have 2 TD returns, 6 returns of 20+ (3rd in the league), 2 returns of 40+ (also 3rd in the league)?

As a slot WR, didn't he have 622 yards and 5 TDs with a 16.8 YPC average? Isn't 16.8 YPC the 8th highest in the league among players with 30+ catches? Didn't he have the 2nd most yards after catch average at 7.5? Didn't he have the 3rd most broken tackles of any receiver with less than 40 catches?

Maybe I'm missing the part where getting rid of an experienced, consistent, productive vet is a move that would help the team. Maybe the case isn't so clear cut.

Of course, I'm sure people will whine about fair catches, or a certain dropped pass. Me, I'm not so convinced that a player who has 16 receiving TDs over the past 3 seasons does need to be replaced.

16 TDs in that time span is more than Welker, Driver, S. Moss, or Cotchery have. It's only a shade lower than Holmes.

But, whatever, I guess anyway you cut it, we have to have a player with ore speed there.

 

[rkell87]

Lots of Dialog on the man, this was before the combine, maybe the numbers are more significant now with the playing season over but here is what one noted Mock Man states:
STRENGTHS
Jordan is quick, fast and the type of receiver that lets a QB sleep good at night. He is very dependable and smart; he reads and reacts to defenses as he is running his route. Jordan has quick feet which makes it easy for him to cut on a dime and he's fearless going over the middle when running crossing routes. He shows great vision, which helps him to break tackles and he shows strong run after the catch ability. Jordan has excellent hands and will catch everything thrown his way. He is very good on special teams. Overall, Jordan is an impact player who is very smart and thinks while on the field in tandem with his QB and coaches on the sideline. Jordan is the "ace in the hole" type of player for your passing game because of his football intelligence, athletic talent and ability to read and react to the defense after the snap of the ball.

NEEDS TO IMPROVE
Jordan may not be a number one receiver because he absorbs too much punishment and injuries could cut down his ability to stay on the field. If he can bulk up and learn to protect himself, he could easily become a #1 WR for the team that drafts him.

BOTTOM LINE
Jordan is the type of player that could be drafted in the first round or drop all the way to the fourth round. Some people are not convinced that he can become a #1 WR because of his size and lack of bulk. I go by LTI (Length of Time to Impact team) -- how quickly can Jordan help and become an impact player after you draft him? (Personally I feel if more teams drafted with LTI in mind instead of potential, they would have more impacting drafts and maybe there would be less turnover in the coaching ranks.) Because of Jordan's intelligence and maturity, you can move this kid around all over your offense in the passing game and make him a match-up nightmare for the opponents' DBs. He can make an immediate difference on special teams as well. Therefore, the team that is smart enough to draft Jordan in whatever round is going to get a "total package" player who will be able to impact right away. I call him Jordan (Ace) Shipley because if you move him around your offense in the passing game he will become your ace in the hole...and nothing beats having an ace in the hole.

That being noted, he is not shiny enough for me at this time, we do need a difference maker in the mode of Harvin, Welker, whether that be Jacoby, Javid Best, or Golden Tate, I am sure there are others with the jitterbug trait to server our evil purposes. We draft Shipley and I think the word evil genius is not in our description. Now give me Carlos Dunlap, Linval Joseph, Mike Johnson, these are guys you want to go to war with in the NFCbeast and this is a war for the superbowl 2011.

he isn't a #1 he pretty much proved that this season when the horns were trying to figure out the best combo of receivers, he was not very effective out wide, but the thing is that he can house it from the slot and have #2 type production from the slot if given the opportunity

 

[dogunwo]

I thinkz jacoby ford wud be a gud selection.

im prolly wrong tho.

That would be a fantastic selection

 

[jswalker1981]

Ahh... 40 times. That's Oakland Raider front office speak. Football players carry their pads well. Spare me the 40, Shipley can play.

Exactly, I wonder what Wes Welker's 40 time is. It must be sub 4.2s because that is why he is so good. Run sharp routes, catch the ball, and have great QUICKNESS (not straight line speed), and I'll take you every time.

 

[jswalker1981]

That would be a fantastic selection

Shocking you would think that. But I do like Jacoby Ford. I'm just worried that his 40 time shot him out of range for us.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I understand we need OL and LB etc...
But its time for some speed added to this WR corp especially in the slot and returning kicks finally.There are a number of these guys to be had.I personally want Jordan Shipley cause he is a tuff fast SOB with great hands. But I will gladly take any Desean Jackson clone as well.

Hooray for another Longhorn coming on board. We need more of these ut guys.

 

[CATCH17]

While I agree that some speed in the slot would be nice, I'd kind of like to wait and see if Ogletree can grow into that role. I'd much rather the pick be a lineman. I may be biased because I'm more of a fan of the running game though. I just really believe that a team can win with okay receivers and a great line, but I don't really see that working out in reverse.

Think bigger picture with Ogletree.

He could eventually start. Maybe even next season.

 

[The Emperor]

FYI it's, "anyway you slice it".

Really? I always thought it was "anyway you mince it."

 

[The Emperor]

Hooray for another Longhorn coming on board. We need more of these ut guys.

Yes, I think Leonard Davis has done a marvelous job.

 

[dogunwo]

what was his combine time?

 

[I need 6]

Shipley makes no sense for us in any round. 4.5+ 40-time. No thanks.

Shipley plays fast. He doesn't lose speed with pads on. There are better receivers but he is definitely a playmaker with return skills. He is a football player.