Apple’s Jobs Asked Gizmodo to Return ‘Stolen’ IPhone Prototype

Bob Sacamano;3402864 said:
No, which is why I'm trying to figure out how you can find something that someone lost, admittedly. And still be branded a thief. It's outrageous. Unless there is some Good Samaritan law that I'm unaware of.
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Apple doesn't think it was lost. They think it was stolen.
 
Hoofbite;3402870 said:
Apple doesn't think it was lost. They think it was stolen.
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Well in their statement they claim their engineer lost it, so...

That's a pretty huge caveat.

It would be different if dude got up and went to the bathroom, and other dude creeped up and came up off his ****.
 
Bob Sacamano;3402866 said:
Most definitely. It's up to me whether I decide to return it or not. If I don't, I'm just a jerk. Not a thief.

Steve Jobs is just another crybaby nerd.
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:laugh1:

We might have to defer to Theo as the lawyer in residence, because I don't how it plays out in the law itself, but I'm guessing if it were discovered that you'd found something that was knowingly the property of someone else, you'd be considered more than just a jerk.
 
Bob Sacamano;3402866 said:
Most definitely. It's up to me whether I decide to return it or not. If I don't, I'm just a jerk. Not a thief.

Steve Jobs is just another crybaby nerd.
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California law says you are a thief. And you can be prosecuted.
 
You cant just keep stuff you find, you have an obligation to report it as found and if no one claims it within a certain time frame then you become the owner. You have to at least make a reasonable effort to locate the owner. Clearly these people knew the product belonged to Apple and decided to keep it anyway, that is stealing.
 
Bob Sacamano;3402866 said:
Most definitely. It's up to me whether I decide to return it or not. If I don't, I'm just a jerk. Not a thief.

Steve Jobs is just another crybaby nerd.
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Doomsday;3402908 said:
You cant just keep stuff you find, you have an obligation to report it as found and if no one claims it within a certain time frame then you become the owner. You have to at least make a reasonable effort to locate the owner. Clearly these people knew the product belonged to Apple and decided to keep it anyway, that is stealing.
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this


i am almost certain(especially in the case of money) that you are required by law to turn in any money found, to the police and if no one claims it after X amount of time it becomes yours.
 
The idiot that found it should have given it to the bar owner as a lost and found. Then asked that if it was not claimed within a certain amount of time given to him. If the idiot engineer that "lost' it never went back and asked for it, it would become the finders property. And he would have at the very least a reward coming from Apple.
 
Had the guy who found it contacted apple with it, I'm sure there would have been a hefty reward. But he chose to sell it to the highest bidder instead.
 
Hoofbite;3402859 said:
You happen to know why the word "stolen" is in quotes in the thread title?
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It's in quotes because Gizmodo had originally said that the guy found the phone and had tried to return it. Basically they were playing the law, which said that if someone makes a "reasonable attempt" to return something, and it goes unclaimed, they can keep it.

Turns out the bar says the guy never came back to the bar to try and return it or ask if the owner had been back, when in fact the owner had returned to the bar several times asking if it turned up.

Instead he said he "called apple", meaning an apple store, to try and return the phone, like they are equipped to handle something like that.

I usually don't side with corporations on stuff like this, but I hope Apple sues the pants off both Gizmodo and the kid that stole the phone.

The whole thing is shady and they did it all in the name of a scoop and then tried to hide behind a journalism shield to basically say because they run a blog, it's okay for them to pay for stolen property, document the **** out of it and use it to drive site hits, and essentially collect the extra advertising revenue.

The law exists to protect real journalists, who might actually have sources that require protecting or be involved in stories that could actually result in positive change and they are trying to twist the entire thing on its head.

Gizmodo also made the moronic mistake of completely putting the engineer on blast by plastering his mug and the supposed "story" of how he "lost" the prototype all over the internet like a bunch of snitches, in the futher attempt to distance themselves from the shady situation and say it was his fault.
 
Hoofbite;3403212 said:
I don't think gizmodo has that one do they?

Says it's in Vietnam.
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yeah, i just ment they have info from another 'lost' phone
 
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