Are fans ready to accept the Micah trade devasted our defense?

[Diehardblues]

I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .

 

[Reality]

This defense would have been bad with Micah as well. Its that bad.

Now that it is over I am glad they traded him. They have money to sign players and draft picks to help this defense going forward.

 

[Praxit]

...c'mon Diehard, the Parson experiment is over.

Dallas had historic bad defense last year with him.

We did right thing letting guy go> I dont miss him a bit.

IF Eberfluke, gets his crap together, the further he'll be from everyone's mind.

 

[DoctorChicken]

This defense would have been bad with Micah as well. Its that bad.

Now that it is over I am glad they traded him. They have money to sign players and draft picks to help this defense going forward.

But imagine the offensive linemen we could use those picks on!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Micah was never the difference maker you thought he was.

Now that the Dallas/GB game is over you don’t hear any media talk regarding Parsons.

That’s because he’s not making any impact with the Packers.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Micah wouldn't change DTs getting blown off the ball and DBs having no idea what to do.

At all.

 

[montgod]

This defense would have been bad with Micah as well. Its that bad.

Now that it is over I am glad they traded him. They have money to sign players and draft picks to help this defense going forward.

The point is there was a plan in place for MP to be a part of the defensive scheme. No one else on this team fit that role to possibly have the defense continue the same route it was already directed to take. So to make that change a week before, did make a significant difference and I'd agree with @Diehardblues. Not saying they would have been top ten, but definitely more serviceable imo.

And again, not going to go into it cause I'm tired of saying it, but trading him has zero to do with the ability to sign other players - go see Rams and Eagles years they won the SB. The cap can always be maneuvered if you have a FO is competent. Yes, the picks are nice, but no where near what MP would have garnered if a plan was in place a year ago when the FO knew they weren't going to re-sign him.

 

[thunderpimp91]

...c'mon Diehard, the Parson experiment is over.

Dallas had historic bad defense last year with him.

We did right thing letting guy go> I dont miss him a bit.

IF Eberfluke, gets his crap together, the further he'll be from everyone's mind.

Honestly I think the defense being as bad as it has been has put Parsons further from everyones mind than he would otherwise be. At least we are at the point of 1 player can't save it. If this defense starts to rebound and plays at an average level the talk of how much Parsons could elevate this unit becomes 10x what it is now IMO.

 

[Tabascocat]

If Dallas kept Micah, all it would have done is prolong the inevitable. Maybe a wildcard game(at best) and later round draft picks. The current defense sucks with or without him. Now, there is a chance at a high draft pick, freed up money and hope they don’t screw up the extra picks.

If Dallas had a competent defense going into the season and they traded him, I would probably be irate about it.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

...c'mon Diehard, the Parson experiment is over.

Dallas had historic bad defense last year with him.

We did right thing letting guy go> I dont miss him a bit.

IF Eberfluke, gets his crap together, the further he'll be from everyone's mind.

This, our 2 best D players (Ware & Micah) just happened to be on bad Defenses for some reason and never had the other pieces to surround them with.

 

[Ironicalicon]

Not this fan. I understand the domino effect a catalytic player can have on a defense but Micah wasn't that guy to such a degree that it would keep offenses from running down your throat. I think we would still have a bottom 10 defense, at best, with Micah.

 

[Clove]

I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .

No worries though, we have 4 1st round picks so we can welcome in a 3rd to 4th round dt, another guard, a punter and a backup TE. Yay, super bowl!

 

[McKDaddy]

Micah traded Micah.

The defense would be just as bad with him.

Sure he might get a meaningless sack but nothing that is changing the game significantly.

 

[jazzcat22]

Even if Micah would have made a difference in a few games. He would disappear in December and any playoff games anyway.
The trade is still for the better for this rebuild.

And it is a soft rebuild regardless if anyone believes otherwise.

 

[Aikmaniac]

Micah wouldn't change DTs getting blown off the ball and DBs having no idea what to do.

At all.

This is the truth. I feel may win the GB game with Micah, but that's about it.

 

[gimmesix]

I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .

It did, but it also seems apparent that we weren't going to be that good on defense even with him. We'd be starting Mazi or Toia and our zone coverage and secondary injuries would be just as problematic for us. Maybe we win against Carolina, maybe against Green Bay with him, but maybe we still lose those games because of what we would have at defensive tackle and linebacker. No reason to pass when you can run over us, which teams are doing even with Clark here.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

Micah hasn't done squat in Green Bay. He is one of the most overrated players in the league. He got completely exposed by us on that Sunday Night game.

 

[Reality]

The point is there was a plan in place for MP to be a part of the defensive scheme. No one else on this team fit that role to possibly have the defense continue the same route it was already directed to take. So to make that change a week before, did make a significant difference and I'd agree with @Diehardblues. Not saying they would have been top ten, but definitely more serviceable imo.

And again, not going to go into it cause I'm tired of saying it, but trading him has zero to do with the ability to sign other players - go see Rams and Eagles years they won the SB. The cap can always be maneuvered if you have a FO is competent. Yes, the picks are nice, but no where near what MP would have garnered if a plan was in place a year ago when the FO knew they weren't going to re-sign him.

Yes, and there would have been one point of failure had we kept him. The players the Cowboys can sign or even re-sign combined with the additional draft picks provide several.

Meaning, if Micah gets hurt (and he's still dealing with back issues in Green Bay) and misses games, that would be like missing several players for the Cowboys next season because not paying him $40+ million gave them that opportunity.

Regardless, this defense is bad. We could have two Micahs or two Wares or two anybodies and it wouldn't help.

The scheme is bad. Our secondary is bad. All Micah would have done at best is provide a bandaid with an occasional blow-out loss because the band-aid came off.

 

[Vtwin]

He might very well made the difference in a couple of the close losses against mediocre teams but that would only mask the reality that this defense is going nowhere with or without him.

 

[movaughn88]

This defense would have been bad with Micah as well. Its that bad.

Now that it is over I am glad they traded him. They have money to sign players and draft picks to help this defense going forward.

I don't disagree but with Parsons and Lawrence we might have the 23rd ranked defense not 32nd. That might be good for 4-2 right now with the way the offense has played.

On your second point I'm willing to reevaluate if they spend the $30M in cap that's rolling over, when instead I see more bargain bin shopping and saying "we signed Pickens you have to think of the pie..."