Are The Cowboys Super Bowl Contenders?

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Hostile;1445627 said:
In April there are 32 contenders.

Yes, and right after the draft, and all teams are happy, healthy, and all have rose colored glasses on.
 

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firehawk350;1445843 said:
QB: Already addressed
RB: Solid but no more. Could def use an upgrade.
FB: Developing, and could use a better FB, but decent enough.
TE: Witten is probably the 3rd best TE in the NFC East alone. I'd put Shockey and Cooley above him. Somewhere around LJ Smith...
WR: Should be good, but again, Terry Glenn is a huge question mark. How bad is that bone on bone? Isn't that a degenerative condition? Will he be productive outside of a Parcells team?
OL: If I have to tell you why hotel is on his last leg, then you probably won't understand anyways. He looked barely serviceable and definitely regressed a good bit from 05 Flo. He's just another year older. Davis should be a big (pun intended) upgrade from Rivera but Kosier is still just average. Colombo may be better, but he may not. Cowboys FO seems to have about as much faith as me, 1 year contract...
DL: Discussed enough
LB: Questions are four of your LBs??? That's not good, and the blanket "scheme" excuse doesn't make them any more of a sure thing.
CB: Excuse me, but there is no bloody way in hell your as good as any in the NFL. Denver, Baltimore, Jags, NE, GB and San Fran. All better then your top 3 easily.
S: Should be an upgrade, though FS is still enough of a concern to have you scratching your head and looking at prospects...
K: Gramatica could go either way, but no way is he better then just serviceable.
P: Best in the league...
KR: Looks good to me
PR: Need somebody other then Newman, if he goes down, so does your secondary. Having Henry and Glenn as #1-2 does not look pretty...
:lmao2:

That one killed me.
 

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jazzcat22;1445846 said:
Yes, and right after the draft, and all teams are happy, healthy, and all have rose colored glasses on.
Everything looks so purty.

:D
 

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You are drunk if you think both Shcokey and Cooley are better then witten.
You are also out to lunch on the Hotel.
Frankly, I am not even going to bother answering any of the rest....
 

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Changes Versus 2006 +/-

QB - Romo for all 16 (hopefully) vs Bledsoe/Romo (+)
RB - Unchanged
WR - Unchanged
TE - Unchanged
OL - Davis for Rivera (+)

DL - Unchanged
LB - Ellis for all 16 (hopefully) vs Ellis about half
DB - Hamlin/Watkins vs Watkins/Davis (+)

KO Return - Unchanged
Punt Return - Unchanged
Punter - Unchanged
Kicker - Vandy/Gramatica vs Gramatica (+)
Coverage Teams - Unchanged

Coaching Staff - Wholesale Changes Top to Bottom ?????

I don't think it takes a homer to suggest that at this point we're at least as good as last year personnel-wise. Hopefully stronger at QB, RG & FS.

Barring dramatic draft impact the real question far and away for 2007 is coaching and chemistry.

Who would have dreamed back in 2003 when Parcells took over that moving from Parcells to Phillips would be considered by many to be a plus? You'd have been laughed out of the room.

Are we Super Bowl contenders in 2006? How much do you believe in the coaching staff changes?
 

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Hostile;1445848 said:
:lmao2:

That one killed me.

Oh really? Why is Witten (759 yards [11.8 ypc]and 1 TD) better then Cooley (734 yards [12.9 ypc] and 7 TDs) and Shockey (623 yards [9.4 ypc] and 7 TDs)
 

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firehawk350;1445843 said:
QB: Already addressed
RB: Solid but no more. Could def use an upgrade.
FB: Developing, and could use a better FB, but decent enough.
TE: Witten is probably the 3rd best TE in the NFC East alone. I'd put Shockey and Cooley above him. Somewhere around LJ Smith...
WR: Should be good, but again, Terry Glenn is a huge question mark. How bad is that bone on bone? Isn't that a degenerative condition? Will he be productive outside of a Parcells team?
OL: If I have to tell you why hotel is on his last leg, then you probably won't understand anyways. He looked barely serviceable and definitely regressed a good bit from 05 Flo. He's just another year older. Davis should be a big (pun intended) upgrade from Rivera but Kosier is still just average. Colombo may be better, but he may not. Cowboys FO seems to have about as much faith as me, 1 year contract...
DL: Discussed enough
LB: Questions are four of your LBs??? That's not good, and the blanket "scheme" excuse doesn't make them any more of a sure thing.
CB: Excuse me, but there is no bloody way in hell your as good as any in the NFL. Denver, Baltimore, Jags, NE, GB and San Fran. All better then your top 3 easily.
S: Should be an upgrade, though FS is still enough of a concern to have you scratching your head and looking at prospects...
K: Gramatica could go either way, but no way is he better then just serviceable.
P: Best in the league...
KR: Looks good to me
PR: Need somebody other then Newman, if he goes down, so does your secondary. Having Henry and Glenn as #1-2 does not look pretty...

Cooley?!?!?

Pfft.

Please.

And by the way, Colombo signed a two year deal, not one.

San Fran's secondary?!?!?

Another gem.

Why not tell us that Sean Taylor can actually cover me while you're at it!
 

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burmafrd;1445855 said:
You are drunk if you think both Shcokey and Cooley are better then witten.
You are also out to lunch on the Hotel.
Frankly, I am not even going to bother answering any of the rest....

I am willing to say it's lateral between Shockey and Witten. But Cooley is def better...
 

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firehawk350;1445872 said:
Oh really? Why is Witten (759 yards [11.8 ypc]and 1 TD) better then Cooley (734 yards [12.9 ypc] and 7 TDs) and Shockey (623 yards [9.4 ypc] and 7 TDs)
It would require me to explain football to you, so I will pass as I think it would be an exercise in futility.
 

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Hostile;1445627 said:
In April there are 31 contenders.
There, FIXED it for you.

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:p:
 

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stasheroo;1445873 said:
Cooley?!?!?

Pfft.

Please.

And by the way, Colombo signed a two year deal, not one.

San Fran's secondary?!?!?

Another gem.

Why not tell us that Sean Taylor can actually cover me while you're at it!
Okay, sorry, I didn't know Colombo signed a two year, I thought it was one. And please, elaborate, why is Cooley worse then Witten? San Fran's top three CBs (I didn't say secondary) ARE better then yours. Nate Clements > Newman and Walt Harris is WAY better then Glenn.
 

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Hostile;1445878 said:
It would require me to explain football to you, so I will pass as I think it would be an exercise in futility.

Wow, way to come back with, you know, facts or something resembling a bit of knowledge. Good job Hos!
 

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firehawk350;1445886 said:
Wow, way to come back with, you know, facts or something resembling a bit of knowledge. Good job Hos!
I aim to please.

:D

I'm sorry, but if you think there is an NFL team anywhere that would take Cooley over Witten you're simply deluded. I like the kid, but man, be serious.
 

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firehawk350;1445884 said:
Okay, sorry, I didn't know Colombo signed a two year, I thought it was one. And please, elaborate, why is Cooley worse then Witten? San Fran's top three CBs (I didn't say secondary) ARE better then yours. Nate Clements > Newman and Walt Harris is WAY better then Glenn.
Clements and Newman are debatable. Henry is the 2nd corner, not Glenn.

But if you would be so kind, why are Clements, Harris, and the unnamed 3rd corner better than the 'boys trio?
 

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WoodysGirl;1445889 said:
Clements and Newman are debatable. Henry is the 2nd corner, not Glenn.

But if you would be so kind, why are Clements, Harris, and the unnamed 3rd corner better than the 'boys trio?
Because those guys aren't Cowboys and our trio are.

:p:
 

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Hostile;1445888 said:
I aim to please.

:D

I'm sorry, but if you think there is an NFL team anywhere that would take Cooley over Witten you're simply deluded. I like the kid, but man, be serious.

You aim to please me??? Wow, full service... Thanks:)

Okay, again, I ask, why do you think that? I mean, unless you know that for a fact (as in, you personally talked to every GM), tell me why.
 

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Hostile;1445894 said:
Because those guys aren't Cowboys and our trio are.

:p:
And maybe he likes the fact that San Fran has red (similar to burgundy) in their uniforms colors.
 

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firehawk350;1445843 said:
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Career 252 2838 11.3 42 14 Witten
Career 314 3609 11.5 59 24 Shockey
Career 165 1822 11.0 66 19 Cooley

Pretty much even at that look. Then you look closer
G C YD AV L TD FD
2004 WAS 16 37 314 8.5 31 6 23 Cooley
2005 WAS 16 71 774 10.9 32 7 44
2006 WAS 16 57 734 12.9 66 6 33


2002 NYG 15 74 894 12.1 30 2 49 Shockey
2003 NYG 9 48 535 11.1 46 2 29
2004 NYG 15 61 666 10.9 38 6 32
2005 NYG 15 65 891 13.7 59 7 46
2006 NYG 15 66 623 9.4 25 7 37


2003 DAL 15 35 347 9.9 36 1 18 Witten
2004 DAL 16 87 980 11.3 42 6 44
2005 DAL 16 66 757 11.5 34 6 40
2006 DAL 16 64 754 11.8 42 1 37


And you see how remarkably steady Wittens production has been over the last 3 years.
 
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