Are the Giants starting to do what the Cowboys have been doing?

[OhSnap]

I don't follow them closely so my assessment will probably have some holes but I don't wanna waste a whole lot of time because it's the Giants.

They have a 33 yr old QB coming off of ankle surgery and a year where he looked like a rookie. They seem to have holes everywhere and have signed 16 free agents this off season which could mean you managed your cap well and have money to play with, it could also mean your drafting has sucked the last few years.

None of the free agents jump off the paper except maybe Cromartie and Manningham and they're more familiar than they are big names. That's not a knock on anyone but they made about 33 signings this off season including re signing's and you cant make that many deals if your signing top notch guys. They're patching up all over the place and adding guys for depth.

I don't wanna sound like I'm downplaying they're great SB run but it looks more and more like a year where they caught the proverbial lightning in a bottle when you consider this: They've only had one playoff appearance in the last 5 years and only one season where they won more than 9 games. I don't want to offend any fans of the Giants, aside from that 20 year span leading up to hiring Parcells the Giants have been a model franchise.

So it looks like they're loading up for one last run with Coughlin OR
they're trying to quickly rebuild around an aging QB.

Which one do you Zoners think it is or is it something different?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

It should turn out to be an effort in futility.

BTW, why would you be worried about offending any Giants fans? Seems to me that offending them is an honorable thing to do!

 

[Sarge]

The Giants are headed in the wrong direction slowly. They need to start addressing their holes which in my opinion include the quarterback position. Living in New York, I saw almost every New York Giants game last year and Eli is fading fast.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

The Giants are headed in the wrong direction slowly. They need to start addressing their holes which in my opinion include the quarterback position. Living in New York, I saw almost every New York Giants game last year and Eli is fading fast.

So you think E-Lie lost his rabbits foot?

 

[Sarge]

So you think E-Lie lost his rabbits foot?

I think he his tailed off considerably and so do the Giants management. I expect them to draft a quarterback and maybe early this year.

 

[OhSnap]

It should turn out to be an effort in futility.

BTW, why would you be worried about offending any Giants fans? Seems to me that offending them is an honorable thing to do!

I thought they were gonna get a little resurgence last year just because of Coughlin but at 67 with 2 SB's under his belt it's lookin like he could be put out to pasture and probably would have been a couple years ago if they hadn't got lucky and caught a beat up Cowboy team twice in December, they were already callin for his head wk 8 of that year. But he been an above average coach.

 

[OhSnap]

The Giants are headed in the wrong direction slowly. They need to start addressing their holes which in my opinion include the quarterback position. Living in New York, I saw almost every New York Giants game last year and Eli is fading fast.

I stumbled across this http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/free-agency/free-agent-signings/ and it just sounds like a last round up. You have to respect a coach and QB thats had success together but it looks like management knows the window might have slammed shut.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The Giants are headed in the wrong direction slowly. They need to start addressing their holes which in my opinion include the quarterback position. Living in New York, I saw almost every New York Giants game last year and Eli is fading fast.

I don't know. Those F'ers would up getting 2nd Super Bowl. That wudn't s'posed ta happen.

 

[PSU999]

I think he his tailed off considerably and so do the Giants management. I expect them to draft a quarterback and maybe early this year.

“I don't think he all of a sudden forgot how to play quarterback,” Mara said, via the New York Daily News' Ralph Vacchiano. “We expect to see the championship-level Eli play for us this year. He hopefully will have more support than he had last year, and I think you'll see him playing back to his form.”

Still, an ESPN report suggested that some in the Giants front office wondered if Manning was a player in decline. Mara, apparently, wasn't one of those voices.

“I think you almost feel like this is an opportunity to re-invent yourself,” Mara said. “And to come back and to change what occurred last year and some of the difficulties, and bounce back and kind of have a clean slate to kind of prove yourself again, and get back to playing at a high level. ...

“We still believe he's got a lot of years left in him,” the owner continued. “And we're not talking like Eli Manning only has one or two more years left. We think he's got quite a few more left.”

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...ect-to-see-the-championship-level-eli-in-2014

 

[PSU999]

The Giants are headed in the wrong direction slowly. They need to start addressing their holes which in my opinion include the quarterback position. Living in New York, I saw almost every New York Giants game last year and Eli is fading fast.

If you saw almost every Giants game last year you would have seen a horrific OL that gave Eli no time to throw, no running game, 1 reliable WR, and no TE


Dan Marino and Joe Montana in their PRIME would have looked bad on the Giants last year

 

[PSU999]

I don't follow them closely so my assessment will probably have some holes but I don't wanna waste a whole lot of time because it's the Giants.

They have a 33 yr old QB coming off of ankle surgery and a year where he looked like a rookie. They seem to have holes everywhere and have signed 16 free agents this off season which could mean you managed your cap well and have money to play with, it could also mean your drafting has sucked the last few years.

None of the free agents jump off the paper except maybe Cromartie and Manningham and they're more familiar than they are big names. That's not a knock on anyone but they made about 33 signings this off season including re signing's and you cant make that many deals if your signing top notch guys. They're patching up all over the place and adding guys for depth.

I don't wanna sound like I'm downplaying they're great SB run but it looks more and more like a year where they caught the proverbial lightning in a bottle when you consider this: They've only had one playoff appearance in the last 5 years and only one season where they won more than 9 games. I don't want to offend any fans of the Giants, aside from that 20 year span leading up to hiring Parcells the Giants have been a model franchise.

So it looks like they're loading up for one last run with Coughlin OR
they're trying to quickly rebuild around an aging QB.

Which one do you Zoners think it is or is it something different?

DRC
Walter Thurmond (Top 3 slot corner)
Geoff Schwartz (top guard in FA)
Rashad Jennings (legit 3-down back who runs hard, catches the ball, and blocks well)
JD Walton (talented young Center)
John Jerry (great pass-blocking guard, started every game the last 2 seasons at RG)
Robert Ayers (a younger, better Justin Tuck at this point)

etc. etc.

 

[DFWJC]

I think he his tailed off considerably and so do the Giants management. I expect them to draft a quarterback and maybe early this year.

They drafted their guy to groom last year.

 

[Wheeltax]

If you saw almost every Giants game last year you would have seen a horrific OL that gave Eli no time to throw, no running game, 1 reliable WR, and no TE


Dan Marino and Joe Montana in their PRIME would have looked bad on the Giants last year

Definitely. I bet last year gave Eli all new respect for what Romo had to work with for a few years.

 

[OhSnap]

DRC
Walter Thurmond (Top 3 slot corner)
Geoff Schwartz (top guard in FA)
Rashad Jennings (legit 3-down back who runs hard, catches the ball, and blocks well)
JD Walton (talented young Center)
John Jerry (great pass-blocking guard, started every game the last 2 seasons at RG)
Robert Ayers (a younger, better Justin Tuck at this point)

etc. etc.

I'm not saying some of those guys can't play but I remember way back at the beginning of free agency Miami had an old QB and an old coach and they loaded up on fa's for one last run then the eagles tried it a few years ago. To me it looks like the same thing. Seems like Coughlin has been fighting for his job every year except for the year after they won a SB anyway. He needs a good year and I don't think a 9-7 playoff run can help him this time.

 

[Stryker44]

I thought they were gonna get a little resurgence last year just because of Coughlin but at 67 with 2 SB's under his belt it's lookin like he could be put out to pasture and probably would have been a couple years ago if they hadn't got lucky and caught a beat up Cowboy team twice in December, they were already callin for his head wk 8 of that year. But he been an above average coach.

They can't fire a 67 year old with 2 Lombardi's. Ever. Loyalty.

 

[OhSnap]

They can't fire a 67 year old with 2 Lombardi's. Ever. Loyalty.

Your right. He'll probably resign but I don't think 1 playoff run even with a SB in the last 5 years is the same as having a dominant coach that people are loyal to. Coughlin looked lost last year.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Above average coach?

If above average gets us 2 Superbowl titles in the next 5-7 years then please sign me up for that above average.

Geez.

 

[bklyn1028]

If you saw almost every Giants game last year you would have seen a horrific OL that gave Eli no time to throw, no running game, 1 reliable WR, and no TE


Dan Marino and Joe Montana in their PRIME would have looked bad on the Giants last year

You are correct. The first game they played I think he got sacked 3 or 4 times the first quarter. The announcer said he doesn't even have time to plant his feet. If you watch the replays, he's taking 2 maybe 3 steps and is swarmed. No one could survive that. Coupled with Gilbride's archaic game plans the rumor was every defense they played against knew which play was coming. No, I"m not saying they're going back to the SB, but to say Eli is on the decline is overkill in my opinion. However, this year will tell. They drafted Nassib last year for a reason.

 

[Nova]

I don't think they're doing what we're doing. I it may actually be the other way around, we just haven't gotten to that point yet...

They started letting guys go last year, and continued to let dead weight walk this year. This was all in effort to get their cap situation right. They were in cap hell a few years ago, but rather than shifting contracts around, like we did, they cut bait, including once important pieces such as Osi Umenyiora and Amhad Bradshaw.

Overall they attempted to get younger and healthier as they fixed their cap... sound familiar?

But by letting all of those players go, they had to replenish the ranks somehow, so they did that with Free Agency.

 

[Nova]

They drafted their guy to groom last year.

There were some trade rumors surrounding him, and the Giants have signed 2 QBs this offeseason-- Josh Freeman and Rusty Martin.

He may not be 'their guy' after all.