Are We Cool with Chalking Up Lack of Sacks to QB’s Getting the Ball Out Quick?

[817Gill]

I hear Parsons when he says that and he plays the games so obviously has much more insight than any of us. But I can’t help to think that I remember a good amount of plays where passes downfield were made. By simple timing these cannot be quick passes. In the last three games this team has 1 sack, are we just attributing all that to quick passes?

Yes teams have definitely made some sort of adjustment to counter the pass rush, but I can’t help but feel that there are more factors contributing to the lack of pressure. What say y’all? Fatigue, injuries, secondary changes?

I have heard Greg Cosell mention that we have a smaller line size wise and that may be contributing to the loss of steam down the stretch. I think that may have something to do with it.

 

[Reid1boys]

I hear Parsons when he says that and he plays the games so obviously has much more insight than any of us. But I can’t help to think that I remember a good amount of plays where passes downfield were made. By simple timing these cannot be quick passes. In the last three games this team has 1 sack, are we just attributing all that to quick passes?

Yes teams have definitely made some sort of adjustment to counter the pass rush, but I can’t help but feel that there are more factors contributing to the lack of pressure. What say y’all? Fatigue, injuries, secondary changes?

I have heard Greg Cosell mention that we have a smaller line size wise and that may be contributing to the loss of steam down the stretch. I think that may have something to do with it.

It is clearly teams getting rid of the ball, BUT, I would think that would make it easier on the defense, but it does not appear to be the case.

 

[jwooten15]

I think the injuries in the secondary have played a part, but also, Micah and others have gotten worn down as the season has progressed. None of them are playing with the same juice or enthusiasm that made them so effective early in the year.

Micah can say it’s all on scheme and that QBs are getting rid of the ball too soon; but for me, I don’t see very many 1v1 victories and even less pressures.

 

[Flamma]

It's not that. We're not getting the same pressure we were getting at the beginning of the season. Burrow, Daniel Jones, Stafford, these guys were under heavy pressure. Even in our loss against the Eagles they were on Hurts quick on any 3rd and long.

 

[Bizwah]

Sort of.

There is truth to that.

However, teams are able to get the ball out quicker because they can. If you are facing third and short most of the time, you can afford to have quick developing routes.

We can't win on first and second down, so third down is easier for the offense.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

If this is true it should be reflected in lower YPA by opposing QBs, coinciding with the decline in sacks.

 

[817Gill]

If this is true it should be reflected in lower YPA by opposing QBs, coinciding with the decline in sacks.

Great point, would love to see the numbers on that.

 

[visionary]

I hear Parsons when he says that and he plays the games so obviously has much more insight than any of us. But I can’t help to think that I remember a good amount of plays where passes downfield were made. By simple timing these cannot be quick passes. In the last three games this team has 1 sack, are we just attributing all that to quick passes?

Yes teams have definitely made some sort of adjustment to counter the pass rush, but I can’t help but feel that there are more factors contributing to the lack of pressure. What say y’all? Fatigue, injuries, secondary changes?

I have heard Greg Cosell mention that we have a smaller line size wise and that may be contributing to the loss of steam down the stretch. I think that may have something to do with it.

Smaller DL size? No way
And you had to “hear Greg Cossell” mention it to think about this?
How does that happen when you play DEs at DT and a LB at DE? And who could have predicted that anyway

 

[Bagman]

This team desperately needs a strong disruptive DT who can consistently push the pocket. Maybe 2 of them. Right now our pass rushing DTs get stonewalled with ZERO penetration. The DEs get upfield but the opposing QB just steps up in the pocket and hangs in there until he can connect with a WR.

 

[plasticman]

Most likely, they are not rushing the QB's with as much reckless abandon due to the issues they had against the running game. I'm sure opponent offensive coordinators saw many opportunities for misdirection plays, QB running plays, and making the D-linemen jump offsides.

I think the Cowboys D-line sacrificed some of their aggressive pass rushing style in order to better react to running plays. It would be different if the defensive players were more veteran but eight of the defensive starters have 3 or less years of experience.

 

[john van brocklin]

I hear Parsons when he says that and he plays the games so obviously has much more insight than any of us. But I can’t help to think that I remember a good amount of plays where passes downfield were made. By simple timing these cannot be quick passes. In the last three games this team has 1 sack, are we just attributing all that to quick passes?

Yes teams have definitely made some sort of adjustment to counter the pass rush, but I can’t help but feel that there are more factors contributing to the lack of pressure. What say y’all? Fatigue, injuries, secondary changes?

I have heard Greg Cosell mention that we have a smaller line size wise and that may be contributing to the loss of steam down the stretch. I think that may have something to do with it.

Well we had both Williams and Armstrong out against the shegals, so that hurt.
Also we are attempting to tighten up our run defense and play the run and not the pass first?

 

[LysleE]

Most likely, they are not rushing the QB's with as much reckless abandon due to the issues they had against the running game. I'm sure opponent offensive coordinators saw many opportunities for misdirection plays, QB running plays, and making the D-linemen jump offsides.

I think the Cowboys D-line sacrificed some of their aggressive pass rushing style in order to better react to running plays. It would be different if the defensive players were more veteran but eight of the defensive starters have 3 or less years of experience.

This^^^

 

[glimmerman]

They likely get it out quick as they can but I also think Quinn has the DE’s slowing down a bit to help play the run. Before they were there really fast and if it’s a pass the qb is in trouble. If it’s a run our DE’s are past the point of attack to help. They were cutting outside and breaking off runs. Then they starting just burning us. Slowing them down and playing the assignments is better for the run. I wish we knew better when to turn it up and get home quick and play pass. Did better this week.

 

[FVSTONE]

I hear Parsons when he says that and he plays the games so obviously has much more insight than any of us. But I can’t help to think that I remember a good amount of plays where passes downfield were made. By simple timing these cannot be quick passes. In the last three games this team has 1 sack, are we just attributing all that to quick passes?

Yes teams have definitely made some sort of adjustment to counter the pass rush, but I can’t help but feel that there are more factors contributing to the lack of pressure. What say y’all? Fatigue, injuries, secondary changes?

I have heard Greg Cosell mention that we have a smaller line size wise and that may be contributing to the loss of steam down the stretch. I think that may have something to do with it.

OCs are coming up with plays to get the ball out faster, HELLS-BELLS that's happen. However, there have been more than a few plays where I've watched the whole defensive line look like they're all bunched up in the middle which allows the QB to get out wide and hit their targets.

 

[Blackspider214]

They are getting the ball out quick because there are people wide open way too much. One reason is we love giving so much cushion. So many QBs will just take what we give them and they keep moving down the field with that and the ground game. And hitting some down the field passes every now and then.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

We lead the league in pressures and Micah had an incredible game in terms of pressure. To minshew's credit he got rid of the ball well but in the 4th especially we forced him to simply throw the ball out of bounds a ton.

 

[Pentagruel]

I think injuries are playing a big part, along with that opposing offenses have adjusted and are indeed getting the ball out faster. It’s a combination of things.

 

[Wangchung83]

We’re worn down, I read today that our defense is ranked on top five for the most possessions it’s has to defend. Here’s some good food for thought fir all the people that says our offense is having to put up higher pts. Per Lineups.com
How An Offense Can Hurt A Defense
Sometimes a defense is going to have things stacked against them, such as Offenses that turn the ball over or are continuously going three and out put their defense on the field more than they should be on. This is where fatigue sets in and playing a massive amount of snaps in a game is going to cause late game struggles as well as a strong defense against the run.

Even an offense that puts up plenty of points can make a defense look worse than what they are. Offenses that jump out to leads and put up big numbers force teams to throw the ball. Because moving the ball through the air is highly correlated with scoring at higher levels, you can see more points because of this. The loaded Chiefs offense has a good defense as well, but they might allow more points because they are on the field more due to the efficiency and volume of points that their offense is putting up.

That second paragraph is pretty telling as Dak and company put point on the board, but if they all come at one time it’s not as good as game management. We go down the field quick or go three and out multiple times in row which leads to a fatigued defense.

 

[conner01]

I hear Parsons when he says that and he plays the games so obviously has much more insight than any of us. But I can’t help to think that I remember a good amount of plays where passes downfield were made. By simple timing these cannot be quick passes. In the last three games this team has 1 sack, are we just attributing all that to quick passes?

Yes teams have definitely made some sort of adjustment to counter the pass rush, but I can’t help but feel that there are more factors contributing to the lack of pressure. What say y’all? Fatigue, injuries, secondary changes?

I have heard Greg Cosell mention that we have a smaller line size wise and that may be contributing to the loss of steam down the stretch. I think that may have something to do with it.

I think it’s a lot of things. We lost two really under rated CB’s, it’s getting later in the year and guys legs aren’t as fresh, we have several players with “illnesses” the last few weeks, Armstrong and Williams dinged up, Micah playing too many snaps, maybe more emphasis on stopping the run and teams have been getting the ball out quick a lot more
It’s not one thing

 

[nightrain]

If they get more turnovers, yes. Like against Philly.