Aren't hamstring problems on the training staff?

[Bungarian]

Miles has them all the time plus I think Murray and now Hatcher. I thought it was conditioning and the fault of the trainers? True?

 

[Tabascocat]

No, everyone's body does not react the same to conditioning. Hamstring injuries happen across the league, not just in Dallas. Miles has a chronic condition and there is nothing the trainers can do for future prevention.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Seems like Oakland RB McFadden has had a whole lot of them also through his career. Maybe it is just how some athletes are wired.

 

[MrMom]

Miles has them all the time plus I think Murray and now Hatcher. I thought it was conditioning and the fault of the trainers? True?

Wait, Hatcher has a hammy now? I thought it was another stinger?

 

[Kristen82]

I don't get how hamstring problems can be a chronic condition. Just make sure your glutes are strong so your hamstrings won't have to overcompensate. This is one of the very first things distance runners and sprinters and hurdlers as well as football players learn. It's your bum, stupid.

 

[fifaguy]

not necessarily... there are certain guys who are just injury prone.

 

[Deep_South]

I don't get how hamstring problems can be a chronic condition. Just make sure your glutes are strong so your hamstrings won't have to overcompensate. This is one of the very first things distance runners and sprinters and hurdlers as well as football players learn. It's your bum, stupid.

Looks like Miles should have got some advice from Kim Kardashian while he had the chance, no ifs, ands, or butts about it.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

It's really easy to develop chronic muscle problems, particularly from tears/strains. Also, there's generally a misunderstanding of muscle injuries, as many people often will use the word "strain" or "pull", when all are just tears of varying degrees.

And yes, you can definitely do a lot of preventive strengthening and flexibility work to ensure you don't over compensate with/for certain muscle groups.

Hamstring injuries (and most muscle tears) are usually a product of over use, or a rapid movement. Like I said, you can do a lot of preventive work, but nothing is 100%.

As many sports therapists and trainers will tell you, the key to not getting injured is not getting injured. Once you start having issues, especially muscle strains, etc., you become more and more susceptible to them.

Miles will continue to have issues with his hammies for the rest of his career.

 

[Bleu Star]

Miles Austin's hamstring problems are on the VR accountant. The growth of his hamstring issues are directly proportional to the growth of his checks.

Miles has them all the time plus I think Murray and now Hatcher. I thought it was conditioning and the fault of the trainers? True?

 

[Picksix]

Miles has them all the time plus I think Murray and now Hatcher. I thought it was conditioning and the fault of the trainers? True?

Are you an athletic trainer? If not, then in all fairness, you don't know. Because I am one. I can understand the sentiment behind thinking that. And some AT's aren't all that great, even at the pro level. I worked with one who's now the assistant AT with a pro baseball club, and as far as I'm concerned, he's stealing a paycheck. The guys the Cowboys have are good. They know their stuff. Some athletes are just more prone to things like this due to a number of factors (off-season training, genetics, nutrition, age, general body/muscle composition, etc). It's kinda like saying that if a kid doesn't do well in school, it must be the teacher's fault. Might be, but there are probably a lot more factors involved.

 

[Picksix]

I don't get how hamstring problems can be a chronic condition. Just make sure your glutes are strong so your hamstrings won't have to overcompensate. This is one of the very first things distance runners and sprinters and hurdlers as well as football players learn. It's your bum, stupid.

That's really not how it works. When you're running, and especially sprinting, you use your hamstrings primarily to pull and propel you forward. They also have to decelerate the quads as they are trying to straighten out the knee during the "swing phase" of the stride. As the foot hits the ground, the quads and hams both have to act in order to stabilize the knee, but neither can contract too much or they either overpower the other, or "over-contract" and have basically a surge in the muscle, which just like an electrical surge, which typically isn't a good thing.

Sure, having strong glutes can help in all this, but it's really not going to overcome all the stress placed on the hamstring. I work with a number of athletes whose glutes are plenty strong, and they still have hamstring issues (some chronically).

 

[texbumthelife]

I can't get down on Miles. I ripped my quad playing indoor soccer and ever since then it flairs up anytime I really push it. I am actually in pretty good shape and go running several times a week, but even in something as juvenile as drunk league kickball, I had a hard time pushing it around the bases.

This is after playing four sports competitively growing up.

As others have said, once you tear or injure a muscle just right, it will always be weaker and a chronic issue.

 

[arglebargle]

IF you could show what the average number of hamstring problems were, by team, in the NFL, we'd have a better chance of knowing if we have more than usual.

I think it's an issue of micro-focus on the Cowboys....

 

[T-RO]

It's really easy to develop chronic muscle problems, particularly from tears/strains. Also, there's generally a misunderstanding of muscle injuries, as many people often will use the word "strain" or "pull", when all are just tears of varying degrees.

And yes, you can definitely do a lot of preventive strengthening and flexibility work to ensure you don't over compensate with/for certain muscle groups.

Hamstring injuries (and most muscle tears) are usually a product of over use, or a rapid movement. Like I said, you can do a lot of preventive work, but nothing is 100%.

As many sports therapists and trainers will tell you, the key to not getting injured is not getting injured. Once you start having issues, especially muscle strains, etc., you become more and more susceptible to them.

Miles will continue to have issues with his hammies for the rest of his career.

Please post more often.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Miles will continue to have issues with his hammies for the rest of his career.

Darn shame. Question is, do the Cowboys realize this and will they move on? I know how the board feels.

 

[Kristen82]

That's really not how it works. When you're running, and especially sprinting, you use your hamstrings primarily to pull and propel you forward. They also have to decelerate the quads as they are trying to straighten out the knee during the "swing phase" of the stride. As the foot hits the ground, the quads and hams both have to act in order to stabilize the knee, but neither can contract too much or they either overpower the other, or "over-contract" and have basically a surge in the muscle, which just like an electrical surge, which typically isn't a good thing.

Sure, having strong glutes can help in all this, but it's really not going to overcome all the stress placed on the hamstring. I work with a number of athletes whose glutes are plenty strong, and they still have hamstring issues (some chronically).

Well, I'm a distance runner and I pulled my hamstring twice when I was on the track team in 2nd-year. Made it a practice afterwards to strengthen my glutes doing one-legged deadlifts and squats etc., not just to prevent hamstring problems but also to prevent TFL (have to have the medius and TFL in balance) and other hip flexor problems. Haven't had a problem since. Guess it is different for everyone like you said.

 

[Tass]

Well, I'm a distance runner and I pulled my hamstring twice when I was on the track team in 2nd-year. Made it a practice afterwards to strengthen my glutes doing one-legged deadlifts and squats etc., not just to prevent hamstring problems but also to prevent TFL (have to have the medius and TFL in balance) and other hip flexor problems. Haven't had a problem since. Guess it is different for everyone like you said.

How are YOU doin???

 

[jrumann59]

That's really not how it works. When you're running, and especially sprinting, you use your hamstrings primarily to pull and propel you forward. They also have to decelerate the quads as they are trying to straighten out the knee during the "swing phase" of the stride. As the foot hits the ground, the quads and hams both have to act in order to stabilize the knee, but neither can contract too much or they either overpower the other, or "over-contract" and have basically a surge in the muscle, which just like an electrical surge, which typically isn't a good thing.

Sure, having strong glutes can help in all this, but it's really not going to overcome all the stress placed on the hamstring. I work with a number of athletes whose glutes are plenty strong, and they still have hamstring issues (some chronically).

You can correct me if I am wrong but if you injure the muscle enough you can develop scar tissue at the tear point which makes muscle pulls even more likely.

 

[Jenky]

Are you an athletic trainer? If not, then in all fairness, you don't know. Because I am one. I can understand the sentiment behind thinking that. And some AT's aren't all that great, even at the pro level. I worked with one who's now the assistant AT with a pro baseball club, and as far as I'm concerned, he's stealing a paycheck. The guys the Cowboys have are good. They know their stuff. Some athletes are just more prone to things like this due to a number of factors (off-season training, genetics, nutrition, age, general body/muscle composition, etc). It's kinda like saying that if a kid doesn't do well in school, it must be the teacher's fault. Might be, but there are probably a lot more factors involved.

Completely agree. There's too many factors and everyone's anatomy is different. There is no single fix for everyone.

 

[hornitosmonster]

I think the limiting of practice, training camp, hitting, etc has actually led to the increase of injuries this year. The players are not football ready like they used to be and now we are seeing an increase in injuries (not just hamstrings)

I cant remember the name but someone is tracking this data and injuries are way up with the new CBA.