Article: NFL to Limit Web Media

[AbeBeta]

I would think that teams would still be able to broadcast things like press conferences -- that's part of the team's marketing and ultimately whatever the team is doing to build a fan base is going to be fine with the league because it makes everyone money in the long run.

However, based on the language in the article, it sounds like the league is seeing that whenever there is a team press conference that 1000s of people log in to listen or watch so it could be they want to be able to make that a product that we have to pay for.

 

[PullMyFinger]

Communism, or Fascist?

 

[AbeBeta]

Communism, or Fascist?

kinda the opposite there son -- that's pure capitalism.

 

[theogt]

See, the NFL just screwed with the CowboysZone server! They're coming for us!

 

[Hypnotoad]

kinda the opposite there son -- that's pure capitalism.

Yeah because fans are lining up to pay big bucks to watch press conferences...

 

[AbeBeta]

Yeah because fans are lining up to pay big bucks to watch press conferences...

I'm sure if you polled the folks on this group, you'd find that TONS of us listen to or watch the daily PCs regularly whenever we can. Many would likely pay a few bucks a month to do so.

I doubt it will be "big bucks" unless it is part of some more detailed access package.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

The Dallas Cowboys and the NFL are separate entities. Property owned by the NFL is not necessarily property owned by the Dallas Cowboys. Property owned by the Dallas Cowboys is not necessarily property owned by the NFL.

Sorry, but you're mistaken.

 

[theogt]

Sorry, but you're mistaken.

Nope.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Sorry, but you're mistaken.

Nope.

Dallas Cowboys is a franchise of the NFL. That means, that the Cowboys are their own entity that owns the "permanent rights" to play in the NFL's football league.

 

[kevwun]

Fighting the internet is stupid. Pretty soon you won't be able to say NFL without the express written consent of the league.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Fighting the internet is stupid. Pretty soon you won't be able to say NFL without the express written consent of the league.

You mean just like the way you can't say Super Bowl without the express written consent of the NFL?

 

[AdamJT13]

We'll certainly need to know more details, because both interpretations are reasonable from this article.

The actual letter released by the teams makes it clear that NFL and team Web sites will be able to use whatever they want.

Here's the letter sent by the Lions --

http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/05/new_nfl_policy_will_force_cut.html

ONLINE VIDEO AND AUDIO USAGE (New NFL Policy)

Credentialed third-party news organizations (newspapers, local TV stations, magazines, regional and national sports networks) are permitted to use up 45 seconds per day of video and audio content (combined) of interviews or press conferences with NFL employees (including, but not limited to, players and coaches) or team practice footage for online use.

Video and audio content may not be used live and may be archived for 24 hours. Video and audio content can not be permanently archived.

All third-party media using interview, press conference or practice footage either in video or audio form must include links to NFL.com or Detroitlions.com regardless of footage source. (Ex: For more information, go to www.nfl.com and www.detroitlions.com)

Video and Audio content can only be used in an editorial context (i.e., as links or sidebars to illustrate stories) and can not be presented in separate multimedia sections of third-party websites.

Integrated ads are not permitted. Video and audio content may appear on pages with banners and contextual ads, but ads may not be specifically related to the NFL video or audio content.

Online video and audio usage policy is effective for gamedays and weekdays (mini-camp, OTA's, training camp and regular season practice week).

There is no limitation of "talking head" audio and video content of reporters that does not include practice footage, press conferences or interviews with NFL employees.

 

[silverbear]

The Dallas Cowboys and the NFL are separate entities. Property owned by the NFL is not necessarily property owned by the Dallas Cowboys. Property owned by the Dallas Cowboys is not necessarily property owned by the NFL.

We'll certainly need to know more details, because both interpretations are reasonable from this article.

I believe you're wrong, theogt, all of those "official" team websites fall under the NFL's umbrella, would be considered part of "our content"...

After all, the NFL doesn't come in and videotape those press conferences, the Boys do that themselves... if DallasCowboys.com films the stuff, and it's NOT affiliated to the NFL, then the league can't tell them what they can or can't do with their footage...

 

[silverbear]

The actual letter released by the teams makes it clear that NFL and team Web sites will be able to use whatever they want.

Here's the letter sent by the Lions --

http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/05/new_nfl_policy_will_force_cut.html

ONLINE VIDEO AND AUDIO USAGE (New NFL Policy)

Credentialed third-party news organizations (newspapers, local TV stations, magazines, regional and national sports networks) are permitted to use up 45 seconds per day of video and audio content (combined) of interviews or press conferences with NFL employees (including, but not limited to, players and coaches) or team practice footage for online use.

Video and audio content may not be used live and may be archived for 24 hours. Video and audio content can not be permanently archived.

All third-party media using interview, press conference or practice footage either in video or audio form must include links to NFL.com or Detroitlions.com regardless of footage source. (Ex: For more information, go to www.nfl.com and www.detroitlions.com)

Video and Audio content can only be used in an editorial context (i.e., as links or sidebars to illustrate stories) and can not be presented in separate multimedia sections of third-party websites.

Integrated ads are not permitted. Video and audio content may appear on pages with banners and contextual ads, but ads may not be specifically related to the NFL video or audio content.

Online video and audio usage policy is effective for gamedays and weekdays (mini-camp, OTA's, training camp and regular season practice week).

There is no limitation of "talking head" audio and video content of reporters that does not include practice footage, press conferences or interviews with NFL employees.

Once again, Adam ends the argument, by providing us with the FACTS... the first section in bold font (which I put in bold font) spells out which sources will be affected...

I have no problems with the new policy, the NFL is in BUSINESS... I do think that 45 seconds a day is too restrictive, though... 2-3 minutes would be about right, I think....

 

[theogt]

The actual letter released by the teams makes it clear that NFL and team Web sites will be able to use whatever they want.

Here's the letter sent by the Lions --

http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/05/new_nfl_policy_will_force_cut.html

ONLINE VIDEO AND AUDIO USAGE (New NFL Policy)

Credentialed third-party news organizations (newspapers, local TV stations, magazines, regional and national sports networks) are permitted to use up 45 seconds per day of video and audio content (combined) of interviews or press conferences with NFL employees (including, but not limited to, players and coaches) or team practice footage for online use.

Video and audio content may not be used live and may be archived for 24 hours. Video and audio content can not be permanently archived.

All third-party media using interview, press conference or practice footage either in video or audio form must include links to NFL.com or Detroitlions.com regardless of footage source. (Ex: For more information, go to www.nfl.com and www.detroitlions.com)

Video and Audio content can only be used in an editorial context (i.e., as links or sidebars to illustrate stories) and can not be presented in separate multimedia sections of third-party websites.

Integrated ads are not permitted. Video and audio content may appear on pages with banners and contextual ads, but ads may not be specifically related to the NFL video or audio content.

Online video and audio usage policy is effective for gamedays and weekdays (mini-camp, OTA's, training camp and regular season practice week).

There is no limitation of "talking head" audio and video content of reporters that does not include practice footage, press conferences or interviews with NFL employees.

Sounds much better.

I believe you're wrong, theogt, all of those "official" team websites fall under the NFL's umbrella, would be considered part of "our content"...

After all, the NFL doesn't come in and videotape those press conferences, the Boys do that themselves... if DallasCowboys.com films the stuff, and it's NOT affiliated to the NFL, then the league can't tell them what they can or can't do with their footage...

I don't really care if you believe that I'm wrong. I'm not.

 

[silverbear]

I don't really care if you believe that I'm wrong. I'm not.

Yes, you are... the official websites of each team are specifically exempted from this new policy...

It's pretty comical, you thinking that your arrogantly declaring you're right would decide the argument in your favor, as if you're the definitive source on this matter... arrogance is always amusing, when it's combined with ignorance, as it is in this case...

You don't have to believe me, just go back and reread Adam's post in this thread... pay particular attention to this part:

All third-party media using interview, press conference or practice footage either in video or audio form must include links to NFL.com or Detroitlions.com

IOW, at least for the purposes of this new policy, the Detroitlions.com website is the same as the NFL.com website... they are part of the "our content" that Greg Aiello referred to (quoted in an earlier post in this thread)... logically, this would be true for the other 31 teams' official websites as well... they can put up all the video content they want, and you will NOT be seeing a reduction in the video content on the Cowboys' website...

Here endeth the lesson...

 

[theogt]

Yes, you are... the official websites of each team are specifically exempted from this new policy...

It's pretty comical, you thinking that your arrogantly declaring you're right would decide the argument in your favor, as if you're the definitive source on this matter... arrogance is always amusing, when it's combined with ignorance, as it is in this case...

You don't have to believe me, just go back and reread Adam's post in this thread... pay particular attention to this part:



IOW, at least for the purposes of this new policy, the Detroitlions.com website is the same as the NFL.com website... they are part of the "our content" that Greg Aiello referred to (quoted in an earlier post in this thread)... logically, this would be true for the other 31 teams' official websites as well... they can put up all the video content they want, and you will NOT be seeing a reduction in the video content on the Cowboys' website...

Here endeth the lesson...

Wow. So, you replied to a post in which I stated X and claimed that I was wrong. But in reality you were claiming that I was wrong about Y which was not even addressed in the post you replied to?

The post you replied to saying that I was wrong was talking about separate legal entities and separate ownership. It wasn't about whether or not team websites could host press conferences. It's apparent now that we have more information that team websites can host non-game video. However, based on the original article, that was anything but apparent.

LEARN TO READ!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[silverbear]

Wow. So, you replied to a post in which I stated X and claimed that I was wrong. But in reality you were claiming that I was wrong about Y which was not even addressed in the post you replied to?

Let me first quote you:

"The Dallas Cowboys and the NFL are separate entities. Property owned by the NFL is not necessarily property owned by the Dallas Cowboys. Property owned by the Dallas Cowboys is not necessarily property owned by the NFL."

And my response was that for the purposes of this particular edict, what media content the dallascowboys.com website puts out IS considered part of what Greg Aiello referred to as "our content"... as such, it is NOT covered by this latest edict from the league... indeed, that edict was issued to protect the individual teams' websites as much as it was to protect content we might find on NFL.com...

THAT'S why I said you were wrong... and as you just admitted, I was right about that...

It's apparent now that we have more information that team websites can host non-game video. However, based on the original article, that was anything but apparent.

Perhaps it "wasn't apparent" to you, but I was pretty sure that was the case right from the start... but hey, now you seem to recognize the reality of the situation, and agree that the Cowboys' official website is still free to put up such video content, I see no reason to continue the argument...

 

[dogberry]

Would this restrict the printing of an exact copy of a press conference?

 

[VACowboy]

I think a package sold at NFL.com that includes PCs, pre-season games streamed live, and archives of the previous week's games would be a big seller. I'd pay for it. What would you pay for a 40-disc DVD set of "The Dallas Cowboys of 2006?" It includes all 16 regular season games in their entirety, as well as playoff games, PCs, interviews and other special features.