Asante Samuel has 2 choices

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dadymat;1958526 said:
Tim Couch=60 million
Ryan Leaf=30 million
David Carr=35 million
Alex Smith=49 million
Reggie Bush=50 million
Charles rogers=50 million
Robert Gallery=50 million

Rookie contracts..................OMG
:banghead:

Rediculous:D
 

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Dayton_Cowboy;1958500 said:
You realize that if someone does sign him to that kind of money, that TNew will be in the same neighborhood to try and resign?
Newman doesnt have the kind of hype that Samuels does. Granted, he finally got some recognition for some big INT's this season, but Samuel's had himself a bandwagon since last season.
 

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The Panch;1958465 said:
Our defense will die when his overrated arse gets exposed for being a system DB. He's good, but not as good as he and his agent thinks he is. He's always sruggles against elite receivers in man-on-man. Most of his plays come from jumping routes via zone coverage.

I completely agree. Would rather JJ spend the money elsewhere. He has already put a grip of money into the secondary not including resigning Hamlin, so I doubt he would pay big for Samuels.
 

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ELDudearino;1958449 said:
I'm getting sick of these over priced premadonnas. Where's the love of the game and team:banghead:

Not to isolate you but I hate this narrow minded point of view. Players get that type of money because: 1) we the consumer pay for it (NFL Ticket, Season Tickets, Team Gear, cable packages, etc.) and 2) the owners can afford to pay the money (thanks to TV revenue, merchandising, and Season ticket holders...e.q. fans). The owners make a killing and the players make a piece of the revenue generated by the NFL.

Until people pay top dollar to see a teacher teach, a factory worker work, or any of us sit behind a desk and push paper, we are in no position to even discuss what is fair market value for those that entertain us. If a person feels so strong about what entertainers make (and that is exactly what athletes are) then stop watching TV, going to the movies, going to concerts, buying CD's or downloading them, going to ballgames, buying clothes etc...

On top of all of that, these guys who play football can only play for at best 6-8 years on average. Meaning they are done in their field at the age of 28 or 30 and that is if they enter as a 22 yr. old. They are entitled to maximize their dollars in my opinion because I couldn't imagine having only 6-8 yrs. to make a living in my field. No one else on this Earth is faced with that issue. All of us regular folks can stay in our respective fields until well past our 30's and 40's.
 

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Dayton_Cowboy;1958492 said:
I posted an article from Yahoo Sports, in it Champ Bailey is suggesting that Samuel will get a contract in the $100 mil contract. Thats a lot of cheddar for someone that isn't a QB named Peyton or Brady


The Beagles are going to give Samuel $100 million.:eek:
 

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slick325;1958567 said:
Not to isolate you but I hate this narrow minded point of view. Players get that type of money because: 1) we the consumer pay for it (NFL Ticket, Season Tickets, Team Gear, cable packages, etc.) and 2) the owners can afford to pay the money (thanks to TV revenue, merchandising, and Season ticket holders...e.q. fans). The owners make a killing and the players make a piece of the revenue generated by the NFL.

Until people pay top dollar to see a teacher teach, a factory worker work, or any of us sit behind a desk and push paper, we are in no position to even discuss what is fair market value for those that entertain us. If a person feels so strong about what entertainers make (and that is exactly what athletes are) then stop watching TV, going to the movies, going to concerts, buying CD's or downloading them, going to ballgames, buying clothes etc...

On top of all of that, these guys who play football can only play for at best 6-8 years on average. Meaning they are done in their field at the age of 28 or 30 and that is if they enter as a 22 yr. old. They are entitled to maximize their dollars in my opinion because I couldn't imagine having only 6-8 yrs. to make a living in my field. No one else on this Earth is faced with that issue. All of us regular folks can stay in our respective fields until well past our 30's and 40's.


Waaaahhhh........Waaaahhh.....:cry2:


so what you are saying is that they get to retire young and rich after doing what they love.................sounds tough......maybe they ought to do what some of us do for work for 40 years and see if they would trade places......................i would rather work for 8 years and be rich, retired, with bum knees ...than 65 broke with bad everything
 

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Beast_from_East;1958569 said:
The Beagles are going to give Samuel $100 million.:eek:


Here is what I posted in the NFL Zone, Beast. However something with the link isn't working. But it was in Yahoo sports. Here's the link that should work.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...ug=jc-probowlsamuel021008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...ug=jc-probowlsamuel021008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Samuel to set the bar for cornerbacks
Samuel to set the bar for cornerbacks

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
February 10, 2008




HONOLULU – Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning did some recruiting this week at the Pro Bowl.

Really, though, it was more "anti-recruiting."

"I kept telling (New England cornerback) Asante (Samuel), 'Yeah, come play for us,' " Manning said, jokingly, after the NFC defeated the AFC 42-30 in the annual all-star game Sunday at Aloha Stadium. "But I told him if he doesn't sign with us, he needs to go to the NFC."

A year ago at this time, the Patriots coaching staff used the Pro Bowl week to get acquainted with linebacker Adalius Thomas, who the team signed at the beginning of free agency. This year, it's Manning's turn to throw in his two cents, particularly for a player who might change the pay scale for cornerbacks this year.

"Yeah, that would be nice if the Colts were in it, but I don't think they have the money," Samuel said with a sly grin. On Samuel's left shoulder are tattooed the words, "Get Rich To This."


"It's about whatever it is you do to get rich," Samuel said. "If you're a writer, that's what you do to get this. If you're a player, whatever it is."

Under the terms of the one-year tender contract Samuel agreed to before last season, the Patriots can't put the "franchise" tag on him again this year, making him an unrestricted free agent this offseason.

That fact was of keen interest to a number of players in action Sunday. The Denver Broncos' Champ Bailey, once the highest paid cornerback in the league, wants to see what Samuel is offered and accepts. Cornerback Marcus Trufant, who is likely to be franchised by the Seattle Seahawks this month, is interested. Finally, budding star Antonio Cromartie of San Diego, who has the size, speed and skill to be the best of all of them, could be talking to the Chargers about an extension in the next couple of years.

Cromartie, a second-year player who went from backup to leading the NFL with 10 interceptions this season, was the best of the bunch on Sunday. In his first Pro Bowl appearance, he tied a game record with two interceptions. Both came on tipped passes, including one where Cromartie quickly adjusted his hands after St. Louis Rams wide receiver Torry Holt bobbled a throw.

"He's everything they advertise," said Manning, who was intercepted by the 6-foot-2 Cromartie four times last season (three in a regular season loss and once more in a playoff loss). "You see a guy that big with that wingspan and his ability to adjust. He has great ball skills."

As for Trufant, he helped secure the NFC's win by slowing Cleveland Browns wide receiver Braylon Edwards on a deep pass in the final minute of the game, the ball falling incomplete.

"Marcus does a lot of things for us and a lot of things that don't show up in the stats," Seattle linebacker Lofa Tatupu said. "A lot of teams just didn't throw at him this season and that allowed other guys to get chances."

When asked if the chance of losing Trufant would be about the same as losing left guard Steve Hutchinson in free agency two years ago, Tatupu gave a worried look that said it all.

"You can tell by my face, I don't have to say anything," Tatupu said.

Still, what happens to Samuel could have a ripple effect on the NFL. A tsunami-like ripple effect.

"I hope those guys set the bar real high," Bailey enthusiastically said. Bailey, 29, has three years left on his contract.

"But no one ever plays out a seven-year deal," he said, obviously hinting at a new deal at some point. "I think Asante and (Trufant), those guys should definitely get $100 million (contracts), probably more. Every team needs premier cornerbacks in this league. They're worth it."
While all this talk about money in the aftermath of a game feels a bit calculated, welcome to the offseason in the NFL. As many people in and around the league will tell you, the offseason is about money. Between free agency, the NFL draft and any other event, everyone is posturing on who and how much should go around.

Like last offseason, when record contracts such as the reported eight-year, $80 million deal the San Francisco 49ers gave Nate Clements or the series of $7 million-per-year deals that went to guards, this year figures to be another spendfest.
During the week, players even joked about it. On Thursday while the AFC practiced, Denver veteran safety John Lynch joked loudly that Samuel was about to get $100 million on his new deal.

On Sunday, Samuel danced the line between playing hard to show off his skills and not getting hurt. On a quick hitch throw by Seattle’s Matt Hasselbeck to Arizona wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald, Samuel closed quickly to break up the throw and jostled Fitzgerald. The play was impressive because Samuel, who was forced to play soft coverage because Pro Bowl rules don't allow for bump coverage, closed so fast on the play despite being on the opposite side of where he normally plays.

The other part was that the 5-foot-10, 185-pound Samuel didn't shy from contact against the 6-foot-3, 226-pound Fitzgerald. Samuel could have easily rattled Fitzgerald's cage much harder.

"I kind of eased up on that," Samuel said, following the unwritten creed of the Pro Bowl.

But again, the real show that Samuel and his cornerback brethren are waiting to see is what happens when free agency begins on Feb. 29.

"I don't know how exactly it's going to effect me right now," said Trufant, who said he and the Seahawks are in talks. "But if he gets paid, it's going to help everybody. I don't have a lot of control over what's going to happen right now. That's the business part of it. I'd really like to stay in Seattle, but it's about business."

Said Samuel: "If it's time for me to move on from New England, then it's time to move on."


Jason Cole is a national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send Jason a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
 

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I see the Jets and Browns as making the biggest push for Samuel. I don't want him in Dallas because I would rather us keep Newman next year.
 

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I think he'll have more than two suitors but i can absolutely see him in a Jets uniform next year. I wouldn't be shocked by that in the least.

I don't see him in Philly, can't see them spending that kind of money on a CB with Brown and Sheppard already there.

He won't be in Dallas cause they're not going to put that kind of money into another corner.

And the idea that he's not really all that good cause elite recievers are able to beat him is silly. Does that mean Champ Bailey isn't the top corner in the league because T.O. has had a history of spanking his butt?
 

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He's going to the Jets...it makes to much sense, especially considering the Jets play in the Pats division and Mangini would like nothing better than to beat Bellichek's arse next season!!
 

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slick325;1958567 said:
Not to isolate you but I hate this narrow minded point of view. Players get that type of money because: 1) we the consumer pay for it (NFL Ticket, Season Tickets, Team Gear, cable packages, etc.) and 2) the owners can afford to pay the money (thanks to TV revenue, merchandising, and Season ticket holders...e.q. fans). The owners make a killing and the players make a piece of the revenue generated by the NFL.

Until people pay top dollar to see a teacher teach, a factory worker work, or any of us sit behind a desk and push paper, we are in no position to even discuss what is fair market value for those that entertain us. If a person feels so strong about what entertainers make (and that is exactly what athletes are) then stop watching TV, going to the movies, going to concerts, buying CD's or downloading them, going to ballgames, buying clothes etc...

On top of all of that, these guys who play football can only play for at best 6-8 years on average. Meaning they are done in their field at the age of 28 or 30 and that is if they enter as a 22 yr. old. They are entitled to maximize their dollars in my opinion because I couldn't imagine having only 6-8 yrs. to make a living in my field. No one else on this Earth is faced with that issue. All of us regular folks can stay in our respective fields until well past our 30's and 40's.

Come on. What they make in 6 months is typically more than most make in a lifetime. All I'm saying is that the love of money reveals some of these players hearts in respect to their team and the game.

I think the cap is reversed, rookies should be capped, not vets...
 

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i am predicting he lands in washington. snyder will give him a $300 million contract, 10% ownership of the team and a dinner with Tom Cruise.
 

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Beast_from_East;1959094 said:
Way too much money for a CB, noway I give Samuel that type of coin. He is good, but he is no Deion.;)


I don't think that he should make that much money, however after the stupid deal that Clements was able to get from the 49'ers, I would say its feasible that its going to at least be $90 mil and $100 mil wouldn't surprise me. It would sicken me but not surprise me.
 

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Romoisgod;1958443 said:
According to Sal Paolantonio (and he is never wrong), there are only two teams that are in the running for Pro Bowler Asante Samuel's services next year: the Eagles and the Jets. It would take a ton of money, something the Eagles don't like to give up, to sign the former Patriot, who will be a free agent when the Patriots don't put the franchise tag on him.

Go Jets
 

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ELDudearino;1958982 said:
Come on. What they make in 6 months is typically more than most make in a lifetime. All I'm saying is that the love of money reveals some of these players hearts in respect to their team and the game.

I think the cap is reversed, rookies should be capped, not vets...

I can agree with putting a rookie cap in place.

But in reference to players maximizing their income, I am 100% behind them. Guess I am a true capitalist, much like the owners, coaches, agents etc. It's the American way and I love the fact that this country was built on it.
 

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slick325;1959161 said:
But in reference to players maximizing their income, I am 100% behind them. Guess I am a true capitalist, much like the owners, coaches, agents etc. It's the American way and I love the fact that this country was built on it.

You are missing the point again but that's ok, money over team and game, we get it...
 

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dadymat;1958578 said:
Waaaahhhh........Waaaahhh.....:cry2:


so what you are saying is that they get to retire young and rich after doing what they love.................sounds tough......maybe they ought to do what some of us do for work for 40 years and see if they would trade places......................i would rather work for 8 years and be rich, retired, with bum knees ...than 65 broke with bad everything

Too bad you weren't born with the ability to be a pro athlete or actor or musician. Too bad nobody buys tickets to see you do whatever you do for a living.

Speaking of trading places, I bet if you did have the opportunity to make the money entertainers make you wouldn't accept less than fair market value because some regular Joe says "you should just be happy to get paid doing what you love to do". If you say you would accept less than you are either a liar or not a smart business person.
 
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