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if we go to the 4/3 if Rivera is DC, does this mean another round of no halftime adjustments and read/react defense with no aggressiveness just like in the Zimmer days?...
The SB performance by the Bears did not inspire any confidence that we will be any better off with Rivera's system.....
someone please make me feel better....
 

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malbis030347;1361156 said:
if we go to the 4/3 if Rivera is DC, does this mean another round of no halftime adjustments and read/react defense with no aggressiveness just like in the Zimmer days?...
The SB performance by the Bears did not inspire any confidence that we will be any better off with Rivera's system.....
someone please make me feel better....

quit looking at one game as if it's the ONLY example out there.

the bears had one DOMINATE defense and if their offense could have gotten a few first downs, the game would have been very different.
 

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That defense carried Rex Grossman to the SuperBowl and, had he made two or three fewer interceptions and completed a couple of passes, would've probably won the game.
 

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malbis030347;1361156 said:
if we go to the 4/3 if Rivera is DC, does this mean another round of no halftime adjustments and read/react defense with no aggressiveness just like in the Zimmer days?...
The SB performance by the Bears did not inspire any confidence that we will be any better off with Rivera's system.....
someone please make me feel better....

the GROZ crowd cruciifed Zimmer for being too passive and not making halftime adjustments. But the reality is that that started AFTER Psarcells took over primary control the defensive scheming and handcuffed Zimmer from playing more of an aggressive style.

Now, people are cruciifed Rivera for the Bears defensive play calling but all we heard all year was that this was Lovie Smith's defensive scheming. So how is it that Lovie Smith takes the credit when the bears D plays well, but Rivera takes the balme when they flater?

I you want to feel better ask yourself this: Could it be that hte WRONG person is being blameds in Chicago, much like the wrong person was being blamed in Dallas?

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Read the postings from Chicago about how local columnists have stats about how the CHicago defense starts strong but fades every year in November/December and becomes very ordinary - Just like the Superbowl defense you saw. People need to look more closely before they expouse their man-live for all things Rivera
 

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malbis030347;1361156 said:
if we go to the 4/3 if Rivera is DC, does this mean another round of no halftime adjustments and read/react defense with no aggressiveness just like in the Zimmer days?...
The SB performance by the Bears did not inspire any confidence that we will be any better off with Rivera's system.....
someone please make me feel better....

Bears did start bring more blitzes in the second half but turnovers continued to kill the Bears and that caused the Bears defense to be out of the field a lot longer than any coach would like
 

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iceberg;1361163 said:
quit looking at one game as if it's the ONLY example out there.

the bears had one DOMINATE defense and if their offense could have gotten a few first downs, the game would have been very different.

If the OC hadn't panicked and started chunking up the deep ball so early the Bears could have grinded it out and made it more interesting..
 

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MaineBoy;1361170 said:
Read the postings from Chicago about how local columnists have stats about how the CHicago defense starts strong but fades every year in November/December and becomes very ordinary - Just like the Superbowl defense you saw. People need to look more closely before they expouse their man-live for all things Rivera

That article also posted that several starters were lost for much of the later part of the year, including Harris, one of the best DTs in the NFL.

Heck, we lose Ellis, and we completely fell apart. At least the Bears still made it to the SB.
 

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I believe Rivera coached under DC J. Johnson in Philly, a very aggressive blitzing coach. With Lovie, he was coaching under a passive cover-2 guy.

Balming him for not being more aggressive would be like blaming Zimmer for all of our worries on D, knowing that BP had a firm grip on our defensive scheme.
 

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I really don't understand all critics of the D that the bears played in the SB. I really don't. I think some people just read stats and sack numbers to determine if the D played good. But if you look at the game this past weekend, the run D of the Bears was bad, but how much of that translated to points?? I always was under the impression that WINNING was more important that getting stats.

So if you look at the SB game: the bears D gave up 22 points, which is under the Average the Colts scored all year. But if you look closer, the scheme was a good one. There was one bone head play by the safety that resulted in a long TD, that is not the fault of the scheme or the coach.. but the player made a bad read and it cost the team. So really, the scheme gave up 15 pts to the most powerful Offense in the league and the Best WR/QB combo in the league.

I would be more than happy to give up 200 yds rushing every game, if the other team only scores 15 pts.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1361200 said:
I would be more than happy to give up 200 yds rushing every game, if the other team only scores 15 pts.

You give up 200 yards rushing a game and you won't be winning many games. The running gave eats clock and leaves your defense on the field to get tired. Which equals many losses.
 

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nyc;1361217 said:
You give up 200 yards rushing a game and you won't be winning many games. The running gave eats clock and leaves your defense on the field to get tired. Which equals many losses.

the point was,, if they only score 15 pts,, you will win a lot of games, regardless how many rushing yards they get.
 

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the questioning of Rivera over one single game is reaching insane levels
 

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MaineBoy;1361170 said:
Read the postings from Chicago about how local columnists have stats about how the CHicago defense starts strong but fades every year in November/December and becomes very ordinary - Just like the Superbowl defense you saw. People need to look more closely before they expouse their man-live for all things Rivera

I wouldn't be too hard on the defense. The Bears offense had way too many three and outs and turnovers. The defense was out on the field for a very long time.
 

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DizzG;1361245 said:
the questioning of Rivera over one single game is reaching insane levels

yet it's what the "instant gratification society" does. :)
 

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Man, you people must not have watched the game.

Lets see you start the game 7-0, and force a TO, then what do the bears do....nothing

in fact lets sing the theme of the game

Bears force a TO

Grossman turns it right back over

Bears get a stop

Grossman turns it over

Bears get another stop

Bears go three and out

When the bears offense is constantly putting the bears defense on the field, eventually the Colts are gonna make a play, they were the second highest scoring team in the league. And soon enough there gonna make a play. You cant continue to put the defense out there, and say Stop the other team

BTW a stat you guys missed

Tell me how many times in the Redzone was Peyton and the highpowered colts held to a FG?
 
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