Audio: 'Clark Kent' aka Witten thinks T.O. is coming back -1/28/09

[1fisher]

I would say Witten is doing what others should do and that is not throwing gas on a fire. Witten has no says so one way or the other about TO returning or not so why should he speculate that TO will not be back

I definitely agree with that but some will take it as gospel that owens is coming back.

None of us know that for sure.

Personally, I hope he doesn't!

 

[Doomsday101]

I definitely agree with that but some will take it as gospel that owens is coming back.

None of us know that for sure.

Personally, I hope he doesn't!

I agree. I don't know if he will come back or not. If he is then we have a player who can be a big help and if we get off to a shaky start he can be a pain in the butt. I do have mixed feeling on this and willing to say if the coaches feel they can deal with him then bring him back if not the let him go. All I have is media accounts and to make a move like this I would really need the whole story.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

For the most part, I do.

Point is, you and many others have said that if we just had a stronger coach, we could handle TO. Well, Andy Reid is known as a tough, strong coach and TO tore up his locker room anyway.

So I don't think any coach can tame TO. We did about as well as anyone has last year. But the real indicator is that all the tough butt-kickers out there wouldn't even want him on their team.

I know you think TO has done nothing wrong, so you probably won't agree with any of this.

 

[DallasEast]

Reid is the one who benched McNabb this season. I don't think Reid played favors over the players I think TO at times has a big mouth and will not let controversy die. SF HC also was dealing with TO is he at fault as well? It seems everyone else is to blame not TO

I love this thread.

Good counterpoint.

 

[Doomsday101]

Point is, you and many others have said that if we just had a stronger coach, we could handle TO. Well, Andy Reid is known as a tough, strong coach and TO tore up his locker room anyway.

So I don't think any coach can tame TO. We did about as well as anyone has last year. But the real indicator is that all the tough butt-kickers out there wouldn't even want him on their team.

I know you think TO has done nothing wrong, so you probably won't agree with any of this.

I agree and when a hard nose coach puts his foot down with TO it tends to make matters worse. SF coach benched TO for a week after the star incident and TO became even more difficult to deal with. In Philly when Reid told TO to shut up as Reid was talking to the team TO got upset and walked out. TO has to understand he is the player, he gets paid to play he does not get paid to run the show it is not his job. Do what is asked of you after all he is paid damn well to do just that nothing more.

 

[DallasEast]

Point is, you and many others have said that if we just had a stronger coach, we could handle TO. Well, Andy Reid is known as a tough, strong coach and TO tore up his locker room anyway.

So I don't think any coach can tame TO. We did about as well as anyone has last year. But the real indicator is that all the tough butt-kickers out there wouldn't even want him on their team.

I know you think TO has done nothing wrong, so you probably won't agree with any of this.

Terrell Owens is content when everything is going his way:

• Contract
• Numbers
• Freedom to express himself on the field

Etc. That doesn't separate him very much from any other player. Unfortunately, when he is asked to curb his "desires" or comply with things which he may have even agreed upon in writing, he gets pissed off and takes his frustrations public. That's what also separates him from the vast majority of players.

It is as how some have described him. He's outspoken and brutally honest. When frustrated he can't control how he's going to react. Knowing that, it's virtually insane that anyone could believe for an instant that someone other than Terrell Owens can do what he himself cannot.

 

[Iago33]

Ah, ok... Who made Jason Garrett the Assistant Head Coach? Who paid Jason Garrett a salary, the highest of any OC? Considering reports coming out about Garrett being 'confident', I wouldn't be surprised that Garrett would blow Wade Phillips off... In fact, he probably blew off all the advice of his players. He even 'called' a meeting with his WRs, but nothing changed.
He was either really stupid, not knowing when to adjust, or too damn arrogant to change his philosophy, even though it wasn't working.

Maybe Garrett is just too damn arrogant...

So Garrett called the meeting just to ignore the comments. Please. Everything is a two-way street.

TO: We should call more slants to get the ball into my hands.
G: Okay. Can you tell me you'll never pull up on a slant and lead to an interception?
TO: We should call more slants.
G: Sure. Whatever you say Little T.

Just my own interpretation--nothing else (I don't have an unnamed source).

 

[dcfanatic]

Point is, you and many others have said that if we just had a stronger coach, we could handle TO. Well, Andy Reid is known as a tough, strong coach and TO tore up his locker room anyway.

So I don't think any coach can tame TO. We did about as well as anyone has last year. But the real indicator is that all the tough butt-kickers out there wouldn't even want him on their team.

I know you think TO has done nothing wrong, so you probably won't agree with any of this.

I think you can go one further with Reid.

He forced T.O. to issue and apology and then when he still wasn't going along with the plan they sent him packing.

When T.O. sat down with Deion to toss the OC under the bus here both Jerry and Wade backed him up publicly.

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[dcfanatic]

So Garrett called the meeting just to ignore the comments. Please. Everything is a two-way street.

TO: We should call more slants to get the ball into my hands.
G: Okay. Can you tell me you'll never pull up on a slant and lead to an interception?
TO: We should call more slants.
G: Sure. Whatever you say Little T.

Just my own interpretation--nothing else (I don't have an unnamed source).

I haev tried a million times on here to convey this message to the masses, but the TFC won't let anything become a serious discussion before they turn the thread to crap.

I am with you on Garrett.

And when did Garrett ever say publicly that he 'called' for those meetings.

There is a huge difference between calling for a meeting and say that you have an open door policy.

Listen to this clip...

[youtube]9sIqUc5Prdo[/youtube]

Now I know it's not any of the parties who were in the meetings.

But here's my interpretation.

These guys are all sitting in the meeting watching the footage from the Steelers game.

Garrett sees T.O. blowing up on Ray Sherman. He sees there is some kind of trouble brewing.

He then tells them that he has an open door policy if anyone wants to talk to him.

That's what I take from Irvin's conversation with Owens about how the meetings came about.

But what's the difference?

The difference is huge.

We talk about these meetings like Jason Garrett (the boss) wanted to have the meetings with the players (the employess) because he wanted input into how the offense could get better as if he thought he was failing.

When the real deal could have been he (the boss) felt he needed to have the meetings because the players (the employees) were running around the sidelines barking and creating an environment where there wasn't any way the offense could be successful.

Big difference if you ask me.

One makes Garrett look like he's not in control and he doesn't know what he's doing.

The other makes it look like he's the boss and he's trying to let everyone know that if there is a problem then come talk to me which should make him look like a good coach.

 

[Clove]

If Witten is Clark Kent, we should be in the Super Bowl right now.

I think TO should get a restraining order on dcf. He has some type of weird love/hate affair with certain players.

 

[Thomas82]

I'm not in the locker room, but Buddy Ryan punched Kevin Gilbride in the face in Houston. I'm not saying hit him in the face, but do something. Don't just stand there.

I remember that, it was on the Oilers sideline in the middle of a game.