Audio: Jared Odrick talks with Sirius NFL Radio

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Here's Odrick talking with Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan yesterday...

Jared Odrick on Sirius NFL Radio


I actually got a chance to call into the show later on after hearing this and ask those guys about whether or not Odrick would fit in Wade's scheme and whether or not he would be available for the Cowboys in 2nd round at the #59 spot. They agreed he could play DE for Wade, but they didn't think he would make it to that #59 slot.

Every year I come across a few players who just seem to get it and I watch them throughout their NFL career. I think Odrick will be on that list for sure.
 

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dcfanatic;3290177 said:
Here's Odrick talking with Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan yesterday...

Jared Odrick on Sirius NFL Radio


I actually got a chance to call into the show later on after hearing this and ask those guys about whether or not Odrick would fit in Wade's scheme and whether or not he would be available for the Cowboys in 2nd round at the #59 spot. They agreed he could play DE for Wade, but they didn't think he would make it to that #59 slot.

Every year I come across a few players who just seem to get it and I watch them throughout their NFL career. I think Odrick will be on that list for sure.

Agree 100% but I guarantee this turns into if we pick a DE when we need OL and S bash fest in 5,4,3,2,1..........
 

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I like him as well, I just think we have other needs and he wont make it to the second round IMO
 

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SDogo;3290181 said:
Agree 100% but I guarantee this turns into if we pick a DE when we need OL and S bash fest in 5,4,3,2,1..........

Every keeps saying we need a S and OL.

Last I checked the starting five OL are pretty much set. If it's not the same five I def think Free is the only other guy in the mix.

Safety. I doubt any rookie coming in is going to play right away. And especially the guys who will available to us at 27.

If Sensabaugh is coming back for sure I don't even see where we go after a Safety. We have Ball as a backup and if Ken Hamlin is gone I think Mike Hamlin gets the shot to replace him.

But we do have three DE who are going to be RFA. Maybe we need someone to get into that rotation and that's the Cowboys mindset.

I know the Cowboys aren't in desperate need at any starting spots for the 2010 season unless we see a surprise cut soon. But we are going to need some situational guys to help us while this window is open.

This #27 spot may even be where the Cowboys want to find a pure kick/punt returner which is a starting spot. Felix(KR) and Crayton(PR) are good. Maybe the Cowboys want more than good from those spots. Plus I don't see Felix doing that job next year if he's now going to be the feature RB. And contrary to what some think Crayton is still not the answer at PR because his two TD's last season were all about blocking.
 

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dcfanatic;3290203 said:
Every keeps saying we need a S and OL.

Last I checked the starting five OL are pretty much set. If it's not the same five I def think Free is the only other guy in the mix.

Safety. I doubt any rookie coming in is going to play right away. And especially the guys who will available to us at 27.

If Sensabaugh is coming back for sure I don't even see where we go after a Safety. We have Ball as a backup and if Ken Hamlin is gone I think Mike Hamlin gets the shot to replace him.

But we do have three DE who are going to be RFA. Maybe we need someone to get into that rotation and that's the Cowboys mindset.

I know the Cowboys aren't in desperate need at any starting spots for the 2010 season unless we see a surprise cut soon. But we are going to need some situational guys to help us while this window is open.

This #27 spot may even be where the Cowboys want to find a pure kick/punt returner which is a starting spot. Felix(KR) and Crayton(PR) are good. Maybe the Cowboys want more than good from those spots. Plus I don't see Felix doing that job next year if he's now going to be the feature RB. And contrary to what some think Crayton is still not the answer at PR because his two TD's last season were all about blocking.

The OL may be set but it still sucks. Romo makes them look better than they really are. We're old at the OT position, penalty prone, and a guard and center who have mental relapses. I'm fine with Gurode and Davis though, and as much as I want Flozell to move on, he'll be a Cowboy one more year. Yeah, they are "set," but that doesn't mean they're good.

Did you notice a dropoff when Alan Ball came in for Hamlin? No. If we happen to get Earl Thomas, he should push for serious playing time, but if we draft someone like Nate Allen, he'll probably start off slow, but to say a rookie S isn't going to play right away is nonsense only if he's a FIRST ROUND PICK.

:lmao2:@ drafting aa KR/PR at the #27 pick. Pretty smart GMing right there. Good thing we have Tom Ciskowski. That's the one thing you do not do; draft for NEED in the 1st round.
 

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TheSport78;3290209 said:
The OL may be set but it still sucks. Romo makes them look better than they really are. We're old at the OT position, penalty prone, and a guard and center who have mental relapses. I'm fine with Gurode and Davis though, and as much as I want Flozell to move on, he'll be a Cowboy one more year. Yeah, they are "set," but that doesn't mean they're good.

Did you notice a dropoff when Alan Ball came in for Hamlin? No. If we happen to get Earl Thomas, he should push for serious playing time, but if we draft someone like Nate Allen, he'll probably start off slow, but to say a rookie S isn't going to play right away is nonsense only if he's a FIRST ROUND PICK.

:lmao2:@ drafting aa KR/PR at the #27 pick. Pretty smart GMing right there. Good thing we have Tom Ciskowski. That's the one thing you do not do; draft for NEED in the 1st round.

This team isn't rebuilding.

The time is now. Get someone who can help immediately in the early rounds.

Then build.

These OT's who will be available where we pick are far from impressive. Iupati would be ok, but no one even knows for sure if he's a Guard or Tackle yet.
 

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dcfanatic;3290218 said:
This team isn't rebuilding.

The time is now. Get someone who can help immediately in the early rounds.

Then build.

These OT's who will be available where we pick are far from impressive. Iupati would be ok, but no one if even sure if he's a Guard or Tackle yet.

That is not what the draft is all about. Every single year you need to stay true to your board. That's what the consistent teams do like the Colts, Patriots, Steelers, etc. You cannot just throw all the scouting and film you've done through the year, and go, hey let's draft a KR/PR in the 1st round because we need one. You're always looking to improve your team year by year; that's how you win consistently. Reaching for a need in a first round will get you no where. You can find a solid KR/PR in the later rounds like round 4 or 5. The one question I ask is, who would make more of an impact, a rookie, ballhawk safety like Earl Thomas who will create more INT's in the secondary, or a KR/PR (who you could find in the later rounds). Our safeties have TWO INTERCEPTIONS in the past TWO YEARS. This team DOES have holes, doesn't if they didn't, we would have hosted our 6th Lombardi Trophy.
 

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SDogo;3290181 said:
Agree 100% but I guarantee this turns into if we pick a DE when we need OL and S bash fest in 5,4,3,2,1..........

TheSport78;3290227 said:
That is not what the draft is all about. Every single year you need to stay true to your board. That's what the consistent teams do like the Colts, Patriots, Steelers, etc. You cannot just throw all the scouting and film you've done through the year, and go, hey let's draft a KR/PR in the 1st round because we need one. You're always looking to improve your team year by year; that's how you win consistently.
Exactly.

If he's the best player on the board at #59, you take him unless you are absolutely loaded at that position.

That's one reason I can't wait for this draft. Now that we've shown recently that we know what we're doing in the personnel department, I look forward to our picks because they will reveal a lot about what the coaches think about the backups already on the team. We don't take a safety high? The coaches probably really like Mike Hamlin. We do take a DL high? Maybe Wade isn't in love with Hatcher, Bowen or even Spears.

But back to Odrick, if Wade wants a front seven guy and thinks he's the best player we could take at that spot, do it and don't think twice.
 

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TheSport78;3290227 said:
That is not what the draft is all about. Every single year you need to stay true to your board. That's what the consistent teams do like the Colts, Patriots, Steelers, etc. You cannot just throw all the scouting and film you've done through the year, and go, hey let's draft a KR/PR in the 1st round because we need one. You're always looking to improve your team year by year; that's how you win consistently. Reaching for a need in a first round will get you no where. You can find a solid KR/PR in the later rounds like round 4 or 5. The one question I ask is, who would make more of an impact, a rookie, ballhawk safety like Earl Thomas who will create more INT's in the secondary, or a KR/PR (who you could find in the later rounds). Our safeties have TWO INTERCEPTIONS in the past TWO YEARS. This team DOES have holes, doesn't if they didn't, we would have hosted our 6th Lombardi Trophy.

If you guarantee me Thomas will be there of course I want him.

But he runs well tomorrow and he's a top 15 pick.

And there is no 'dire need' for this team.

So there is no reaching. The starters are pretty much set like I said unless we see a surprise cut. And if we do then the replacement will be coming from within the current roster.
 

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dcfanatic;3290281 said:
If you guarantee me Thomas will be there of course I want him.

But he runs well tomorrow and he's a top 15 pick.

And there is no 'dire need' for this team.

So there is no reaching. The starters are pretty much set like I said unless we see a surprise cut. And if we do then the replacement will be coming from within the current roster.

This team cannot afford to draft another 6-8 players in my opinion. There are only so many spots on the team. This HAS to be the year where we trade up to get that one player who puts us over the top (EARL THOMAS). If Thomas somehow gets to #20, we need to trade up for him. Give a team our 2nd rounder, this draft is so deep with offensive line which is a glaring weakness on the team.
 

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TheSport78;3290302 said:
This team cannot afford to draft another 6-8 players in my opinion. There are only so many spots on the team. This HAS to be the year where we trade up to get that one player who puts us over the top (EARL THOMAS). If Thomas somehow gets to #20, we need to trade up for him. Give a team our 2nd rounder, this draft is so deep with offensive line which is a glaring weakness on the team.

I would love to trade and get Thomas. All for it.
 

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SDogo;3290181 said:
Agree 100% but I guarantee this turns into if we pick a DE when we need OL and S bash fest in 5,4,3,2,1..........

If we get Rolle. Picking Odrick in the first will be less painfull:D
 

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SLATEmosphere;3290417 said:
If we get Rolle. Picking Odrick in the first will be less painfull:D

I'll accept that. It's progress from where we were before. :laugh2:
 

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dcfanatic;3290203 said:
Every keeps saying we need a S and OL.

Last I checked the starting five OL are pretty much set. If it's not the same five I def think Free is the only other guy in the mix.

Safety. I doubt any rookie coming in is going to play right away. And especially the guys who will available to us at 27.

If Sensabaugh is coming back for sure I don't even see where we go after a Safety. We have Ball as a backup and if Ken Hamlin is gone I think Mike Hamlin gets the shot to replace him.

But we do have three DE who are going to be RFA. Maybe we need someone to get into that rotation and that's the Cowboys mindset.

I know the Cowboys aren't in desperate need at any starting spots for the 2010 season unless we see a surprise cut soon. But we are going to need some situational guys to help us while this window is open.

This #27 spot may even be where the Cowboys want to find a pure kick/punt returner which is a starting spot. Felix(KR) and Crayton(PR) are good. Maybe the Cowboys want more than good from those spots. Plus I don't see Felix doing that job next year if he's now going to be the feature RB. And contrary to what some think Crayton is still not the answer at PR because his two TD's last season were all about blocking.

I'm generally always going to say the BPA at a position of need. We don't have a great position of need. S, OL depth, and WR are our needs.

We need to draft the BPA unless there are several in a tier. In that case they can look at KR/PR/WR or someone like McCluster. Yeah, I know his return game was basically absent in college. The kid has serious quicks and should be a good PR and slot WR. Personally I drop out of the first and pick Allen the S. We can get good OL depth in the second and third.
 
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