Austin and Otree were right

[birdwells1]

If you look at the evidence Austin and Otree were right for not running back to the line.

The evidence points to Garrett only calling 1 play and expecting to get 7-10 yards on it.

1. If you're going to run another play why would you send both wr on deep patterns. Evidence of 1 play call.

2. If you're going to run another play why is the oline milling around, matter of fact no one was hustling back to the line but Romo. They were expecting the timeout because it was only 1 play called.

3. Why would both Austin and Otree independently decide to jog back, unless they were expecting a timeout because there was only one play called.

JG had all his eggs in one basket and he didn't have a plan for if his play only gains 1 or 2 yards.

 

[SDCowboy]

If they expected Garrett to actually call a TO, they're more clueless than we though. Never, ever, expect Garrett to call a TO...ever.

 

[Lonestar94]

If they expected Garrett to actually call a TO, they're more clueless than we though. Never, ever, expect Garrett to call a TO...ever.

Oh come on.. you know that not true.

We do kick field goals.

 

[cowboys2233]

If you look at the evidence Austin and Otree were right for not running back to the line.

The evidence points to Garrett only calling 1 play and expecting to get 7-10 yards on it.

1. If you're going to run another play why would you send both wr on deep patterns. Evidence of 1 play call.

2. If you're going to run another play why is the oline milling around, matter of fact no one was hustling back to the line but Romo. They were expecting the timeout because it was only 1 play called.

3. Why would both Austin and Otree independently decide to jog back, unless they were expecting a timeout because there was only one play called.

JG had all his eggs in one basket and he didn't have a plan for if his play only gains 1 or 2 yards.

If you wanted to gain 7-10 yards, why would you send both WRs on deep patterns on that one play? To limit your options? How is that evidence of one play called? Duh.

Why was Romo smart enough to realize that they needed to run another play quickly, but every other player on the team wasn't intelligent enough to recognize the same?

Why are ANY players jogging back with time running out? Why don't they hurry back in case, you know, things didn't go according to plan? Which they obviously didn't. If the players knew one play was called, they also had to know they were looking to get a few more yards on that one play. When they didn't, they stood around like a bunch of buffoons.

I guess you can blame a lot of this stuff on the coaching staff since the players are obviously not prepared, but let's face it, in the words of our offensive line coach when he was coaching for the Raiders, "we have got to be the dumbest team in America in terms of playing the game." Maybe that's why we're called America's Team?

 

[superpunk]

The entire team was walking. We never intended to run another play. We cleared out the middle of the field so that we could throw the same slant to Dez we had thrown 8 times already in the game, and we got exactly what we wanted - Baltimore blitzed, the middle of the field was wide open.

If Dez had broken a tackle he may have scored. Credit Baltimore's DB with making a great play there. Good play call by Garrett, good everything, that DB just made a hell of a play - he saved the game for them.

Can't complain about anything, except that we seemingly weren't prepared for the possibility that that play would be a minimal gain. Under that circumstance we should have been prepared to run another. But Garrett had already decided we were running one and that was it.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

If you wanted to gain 7-10 yards, why would you send both WRs on deep patterns. To limit your options?

Why was Romo smart enough to realize that they needed to run another play quickly, but every other player on the team wasn't intelligent enough to recognize the same?

Why are ANY players jogging back with time running out? Why don't they hurry back in case, you know, things didn't go according to plan? Which they obviously didn't. If the players knew one play was called, they also had to know they were looking to get a few more yards on that one play. When they didn't, they stood around like a bunch of buffoons.

I guess you can blame a lot of this stuff on the coaching staff since the players are obviously not prepared, but let's face it, in the words of our offensive line coach when he was coaching for the Raiders, "we have got to be the dumbest team in America in terms of playing the game." Maybe that's why we're called America's Team?

I think they expected a TO call.. It was the logical call. A 51 yarder is dooable for Bailey so taking another deep shot OR throwing it up by the sideline for Bryant or Austin to try and steal 10-12 yards was possible. No timeout didnt make sense when you calculate two WRs running deeproutes.

 

[links18]

But Garrett had already decided we were running one and that was it.

So Garrett told us bold faced lies in his press conference? Seems to be a popular thing to do these days......

 

[cowboys2233]

I think they expected a TO call.. It was the logical call. A 51 yarder is dooable for Bailey so taking another deep shot OR throwing it up by the sideline for Bryant or Austin to try and steal 10-12 yards was possible. No timeout didnt make sense when you calculate two WRs running deeproutes.

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. The timeout HAD to be preserved, in order to guarantee a FG attempt. The right play is to run up to the LOS and get off another play -- and with the timeout in your back pocket, you can either run a sideline route OR a route in the middle of the field. Or even a running play, if so desired. There is NOTHING logical about burning your one timeout after that play. As you said, you've got no options left other than a prayer to the end zone or trying for a sideline route. If the player in stopped in bounds, you are forced to try and get an entire FG squad onto the field, lined up, and the ball snapped.

But I agree with you, it seemed there was only one play called based on the players' actions. But that doesn't excuse them for being idiots. Nor does it excuse Jason Garrett for calling only one play. The entire thing is utterly mind boggling.

 

[superpunk]

So Garrett told us bold faced lies in his press conference? Seems to be a popular thing to do these days......

If we meant to run another play Garrett was the ONLY person who knew about it.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. The timeout HAD to be preserved, in order to guarantee a FG attempt. The right play is to run up to the LOS and get off another play -- and with the timeout in your back pocket, you can either run a sideline route OR a route in the middle of the field. Or even a running play, if so desired. There is NOTHING logical about burning your one timeout after that play. As you said, you've got no options left other than a prayer to the end zone or trying for a sideline route. If the player in stopped in bounds, you are forced to try and get an entire FG squad onto the field, lined up, and the ball snapped.

But I agree with you, it seemed there was only one play called based on the players' actions. But that doesn't excuse them for being idiots. Nor does it excuse Jason Garrett for calling only one play. The entire thing is utterly mind boggling.

There were mistakes by both parties but since neither Miles or Kevin were running back it seems to be by design. I think that takes the blame off of them and instead puts it all on Garretts shoulders'. All of it.

 

[links18]

If we meant to run another play Garrett was the ONLY person who knew about it.

Was Romo trying to run another play according to plan or was he improvising on his own?

 

[superpunk]

Was Romo trying to run another play according to plan or was he improvising on his own?

idk it's Thursday I promised myself I wouldn't care about this anymore lol

 

[cowboys2233]

There were mistakes by both parties but since neither Miles or Kevin were running back it seems to be by design. I think that takes the blame off of them and instead puts it all on Garretts shoulders'. All of it.

That's fine, but how can a Princeton graduate possibly be so dumb? Honestly, it HAS to be that he was just afraid of getting some stupid penalty like a false start if they ran TWO whole plays instead of one. Which this team has proven to be perfectly capable of doing.

Either he is the worst game manager in the history of sports, or he has ZERO faith in his team to play smart, penalty-free football in crunch time.

 

[cowboys2233]

Was Romo trying to run another play according to plan or was he improvising on his own?

I think he was improvising...because he has some semblance of a brain. What the heck could these other players be thinking? Unless they were specifically told there would be only one play run and specifically told they did NOT want to run two plays. Which is just horrifically conservative and the type of lesson Garrett should have learned from the multiple game managing fiascos last year.

 

[links18]

That's fine, but how can a Princeton graduate possibly be so dumb? Honestly, it HAS to be that he was just afraid of getting some stupid penalty like a false start if they ran TWO whole plays instead of one. Which this team has proven to be perfectly capable of doing.

Either he is the worst game manager in the history of sports, or he has ZERO faith in his team to play smart, penalty-free football in crunch time.

Didn't he actually make an argument like that last season? I can't remember which game or in relation to what, but I think it had something to do with being afraid of getting a penalty and being taken out of long FG range.

 

[links18]

idk it's Thursday I promised myself I wouldn't care about this anymore lol

Now, you're lying to yourself.

 

[cowboys2233]

Didn't he actually make an argument like that last season? I can't remember which game or in relation to what, but I think it had something to do with being afraid of getting a penalty and being taken out of long FG range.

Sure. And it's just really sad that it has come to that. Our team isn't capable of running two plays without the distinct possibility of getting a false start penalty. That's exactly what Garrett's actions tell you he believes about this offense. They are that dumb and he knows it.

 

[JBS]

I think they expected a TO call.. It was the logical call. A 51 yarder is dooable for Bailey so taking another deep shot OR throwing it up by the sideline for Bryant or Austin to try and steal 10-12 yards was possible. No timeout didnt make sense when you calculate two WRs running deeproutes.

Wilson > Bray


Not even close

 

[AbeBeta]

JG had all his eggs in one basket and he didn't have a plan for if his play only gains 1 or 2 yards.

Or the play was designed to go to Austin or 'Tree and Romo, instead of throwing it away b/c they were covered went to Dez

 

[CT Dal Fan]

As a latecomer to this thread, here's my take:

I think the Cowboys were so confident in Bailey they were ready to kick the field goal as soon as they got the interference call. I remember as soon as that flag was thrown, I lit up inside figuring Dallas had won.

If that kick went in, there would be no second guessing, and everything around the team would be just oh-so fantastic right now. And Garrett, Romo, and the penalty and clock management woes would still be there.

They just wouldn't matter as much.