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In this video, we perform a deep forensic breakdown of flight N722BD. We analyze the final Air Traffic Control (ATC) audio logs, break down the localized weather physics of high-altitude tropical storms, and map the minute-by-minute Flightradar24 ADS-B telemetry data. We also examine local dashcam videos and eyewitness security footage to evaluate the leading NTSB investigation theories—including the critical aerodynamic differences between a Learjet 60 and a commercial airliner, and whether the aircraft suffered a mid-air structural tail failure before impact.
A private chartered Learjet with 9 on board crashes into a Florida town after going through a tropical high altitude storm core. All lives lost.

 
This is my take. Correct me if I'm wrong. But when you go from -47 degrees Celsius to taking on precip, all of that rain will be ice on the jet.
 
This is my take. Correct me if I'm wrong. But when you go from -47 degrees Celsius to taking on precip, all of that rain will be ice on the jet.
Yeah. Supercooled water droplets can be there in a thunderstorm. Normally, that’s too cold for ice to form. In my airplane, we turn off the anti ice when it’s colder than -40c. Either way, there’s no anti ice on the Lear 60 tail, from what I understand.

I’m guessing either the turbulence over stressed the aircraft and blew off the horizontal stabilizer or the horizontal stabilizer got iced up and then the subsequent forces blew it off. It appears to be missing in the video screenshot I saw.

Either way, the NTSB will sort it out. It’s amazing what they can uncover, even with this much damage.
 
Watching that video and listening to the co-pilot audio was awful...I really wish I didn't watch it. Her family has ID'd her - 20 yr chasing her dream.
 
Yeah. Supercooled water droplets can be there in a thunderstorm. Normally, that’s too cold for ice to form. In my airplane, we turn off the anti ice when it’s colder than -40c. Either way, there’s no anti ice on the Lear 60 tail, from what I understand.

I’m guessing either the turbulence over stressed the aircraft and blew off the horizontal stabilizer or the horizontal stabilizer got iced up and then the subsequent forces blew it off. It appears to be missing in the video screenshot I saw.

Either way, the NTSB will sort it out. It’s amazing what they can uncover, even with this much damage.
You're probably right. I just assumed if you're flying in -47C and descend into a warmer climate thunderstorm, that water would turn to ice upon hitting the aircraft. But I really have no idea. They dropped like a rock, so yeah, they might have lost something critical to the aircraft.
 
The initial analysis I read said they could have gone around the storm avoiding the cold thunder & ice and in fact the Lear has de icing ability but when they radioed ATC permission to ascend and were given clearance the stall occurred .
 
The initial analysis I read said they could have gone around the storm avoiding the cold thunder & ice and in fact the Lear has de icing ability but when they radioed ATC permission to ascend and were given clearance the stall occurred .
They got permission to go from 35k feet to 37k. But I think they only climbed 4-500 feet before they pitched down. Captain Steve seems to suggest one wing stalled. He also said there are situations where the ice can overwhelm any de-icing. If that's the case, that happened pretty fast.
 
Such a terrible situation.

I hate to say it but when I first seen the initial video clip it looked like it was AI,
It was so crazy that it was hard to believe it was real.

After watching the video in the OP...I wish it was an AI fake now. Just terrible and you gotta feel for those family members that have to hear it.
 
They got permission to go from 35k feet to 37k. But I think they only climbed 4-500 feet before they pitched down. Captain Steve seems to suggest one wing stalled. He also said there are situations where the ice can overwhelm any de-icing. If that's the case, that happened pretty fast.
The YouTube channel Pilot Debrief went right through the flight using the ADS-B data, the ATC recording and the weather radar. They went from a slow climb to uncontrollable dive in a second or two.

The last data from ADS-B showed them descending at a rate of over 48,000 ft/mn, or 800+ ft/sec.
 
Black Box Analyst looks into the Learjet manual for information about radar limitations.
Good video clearly identifying the missing elevator on the horizontal stabilizer on the vertical tail fin.

 

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