I see him more as a situational guy.UncFelix28;5022855 said:definitely not a fan of Avril's.. Just my opinion
We probably have a least somewhat of a bracket now, true.supercowboy8;5022863 said:Avril now, that D is even better. He is an upgrade over Clemons. Wonder what he got paid, will set Spencer deal.
DFWJC;5022865 said:We probably have a least somewhat of a bracket now, true.
Real curious what they paid because Avril really benefited from having two tackles that required double teams. He's a bit overrated, imo.
Spencer had a much better season than both as a pass rusher. He's also a much better run stopper to boot.supercowboy8;5022917 said:I agree, I said that when people wanted him over Spencer last year.
But now with Kruger getting 8 a year and Avril contract will be released soon we should know what Spencer should be. Avril is 26 as Spencer is 29 so no way does he get more than Avril. Also Avril has better stats than Spencer.
Kruger and Spencer have very similar stats and Kruger is younger and played opposite another very good pass rusher in Suggs.
I would only give him a 4 year 35 million or 5 year 43. Any more I would trade him.
AbeBeta;5022861 said:Like I said about the Harvin deal. Seattle is not messing around
speedkilz88;5022928 said:Spencer had a much better season than both as a pass rusher. He's also a much better run stopper to boot.
supercowboy8;5022955 said:not really, and not over the last three years and he is older so he is coming to the down side of his career.
Cliff Avril will be 27 next month last year had 9.5 sacks and 2 FFs
over his 5 year career 39.5 sacks and 16 FF
Paul Kruger just turned 27 last year had 9 sacks plus 4.5 in the post season and 2 FF. Over his 4 year career he has 15.5 sacks
Anthony Spencer just turned 29 and had 11 sacks and 2 FF this year
over his 6 year career he has 32.5 sacks and 12 FF
Last season Spencer had 1.5 more sacks than Avril but over there career Avril has 7 more sacks and 4 more FF with one less year and two years younger.
Sorry but no way should Spencer get paid more than Avril.
newlander;5022974 said:........full disclosure: I was DEAD set against re-signing Anthony for that much money as we have other glaring needs: However, I LIVE in MIchigan and have to be exposed to Lions games..... and can tell you there is a HUGE reason they didn't re-sign Cliff Avril: he simply cannot and will not stay home and defend the run. It's selfish and pathetic. Spencer is a much better player than Avril, I don't care what the stats say. Just be glad you don't have to watch the Lions.
Questfor6;5022982 said:Avril got a 2 year 15 million dollar contract..