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I am guessing that the comp picks will be between the 5th-7th rounds, so split the diff & placed them in the 6th.

Without further ado, its the all-nasty, all-team oriented, all-playmakers, all-high characters (ie no thugs or softies) MOCK DRAFT:

2 - OLB, Connor Barwin, Cincinnati - 6'4 256 4.59
15.5 TFL 11 SK 7 PBU, as a first time pass rusher_explosive, versatile, coachable-Vrabel clone, enough said. (option: Alex Mack, Pat Chung, Andre Smith, Michael Johnson)
3 - H-Back/FB, James Casey, Rice - 6'3 248 4.74
This kid is a scoring machine who can play anywhere_TE, RB, FB, Wildcat QB. Strong as a bull, fluid receiver and will gash you as a runner. Super tough, tenacious & hard working to boot. 2nd in the nation in catches (104), fifth in yardage (1217) with 13 receiving TDs, 6 rushing TDs & 2 passing TDs. Move over Deon Anderson, for a real playmaker. (option: Travis Beckum)
4a - WR Jared Cook, South Carolina - 6'5 246 4.49
Matchup nightmare. Projected as a 2nd/3rd round TE, but lack of production/experience drops him, hopefully all the way to the 97th pick. Vincent Jackson type player, except faster & better hands. (option: Paul Veikune)
4b - DL/LB Mitch King, Iowa - 6'2 280 4.83
If he were 20 lbs heavier he would be a top 20 pick. Great technique to go along w/explosive burst & strength. Instinctive, Intense & Unmatched Intangibles to go along with a mean streak & violent play. King plays like a crazed animal, but is of high character & exceptional leadership skills. Exemplifies Jerry's new philosophy on team first attitude.
5a - ILB/OLB, Jason Williams, W Illinois - 6'1 245 4.49
Playmaker_15 career FF! Great production, very smooth in coverage. Led his team in TFL (16.5), SK (8) & FF (5). (option: Zack Follett)
5b - SS/ILB, Jonathan Casillas, Wisconsin 6'1 228 4.44e
Knee injury drops him this far, pure coverage specialist_if protected can flow to the ball_if 100%, can step into nickel LB role immediately. Team Captain.
6a - C, A.Q. Shipley, Penn State - 6'1 305 5.15
Plays w/the nastiness of a D player (converted from NT)! Physicality & tenacity only rivalled by his work ethic & intelligence (no problem w/shotgun snap). May need to add 10-15 lbs to play in power blocking scheme. Nation's Best Center in 2008 (Rimington Award Winner)!
6b - NT/DE Sammie Lee Hill, Stillman - 6'4 330 5.15
Extremely raw project, but dominated at the lower level. Strong, quick & nimble for his size. For a player who only knows how to bull rush, and the occasional spin move, shows feel for making plays_14 TFL 4.5 SK 4 FF 1 INT in 2007. Character props for pulling a man out of a burning building.
6c - QB Nathan Brown, Georgia - 6'1 220 4.93
Short but extremely productive. Mobile, can read defenses, can make all the throws. Elite leadership intangibles. Compared to Romo.
7a - NT Roy Miller , Texas - 6'1 310 4.98
2008 Fiesta Bowl Outstanding D Player. Extremely underrated athleticism & production. Tough, tenacious & active against run & pass. High Character, High Effort. (option: Lardarius Webb, Bradley Fletcher)
7b - OT Lydon Murtha, Nebraska - 6'7 306 4.82 Big 12 Honorable Mention. Excellent size and great feet. Probably better suited for a zone blocking scheme but super athletic & agile for his size, huge upside. Project Pick, needs to get bigger & lack of experience due to injuries.
(option: Joel Bell)
 

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BAT;2684975 said:
I am guessing that the comp picks will be between the 5th-7th rounds, so split the diff & placed them in the 6th.

Without further ado, its the all-nasty, all-team oriented, all-playmakers, all-high characters (ie no thugs or softies) MOCK DRAFT:

2 - OLB, Connor Barwin, Cincinnati - 6'4 256 4.59
15.5 TFL 11 SK 7 PBU, as a first time pass rusher_explosive, versatile, coachable-Vrabel clone, enough said. (option: Alex Mack, Pat Chung, Andre Smith, Michael Johnson)
3 - H-Back/FB, James Casey, Rice - 6'3 248 4.74
This kid is a scoring machine who can play anywhere_TE, RB, FB, Wildcat QB. Strong as a bull, fluid receiver and will gash you as a runner. Super tough, tenacious & hard working to boot. 2nd in the nation in catches (104), fifth in yardage (1217) with 13 receiving TDs, 6 rushing TDs & 2 passing TDs. Move over Deon Anderson, for a real playmaker. (option: Travis Beckum)
4a - WR Jared Cook, South Carolina - 6'5 246 4.49
Matchup nightmare. Projected as a 2nd/3rd round TE, but lack of production/experience drops him, hopefully all the way to the 97th pick. Vincent Jackson type player, except faster & better hands. (option: Paul Veikune)
4b - DL/LB Mitch King, Iowa - 6'2 280 4.83
If he were 20 lbs heavier he would be a top 20 pick. Great technique to go along w/explosive burst & strength. Instinctive, Intense & Unmatched Intangibles to go along with a mean streak & violent play. King plays like a crazed animal, but is of high character & exceptional leadership skills. Exemplifies Jerry's new philosophy on team first attitude.
5a - ILB/OLB, Jason Williams, W Illinois - 6'1 245 4.49
Playmaker_15 career FF! Great production, very smooth in coverage. Led his team in TFL (16.5), SK (8) & FF (5). (option: Zack Follett)
5b - SS/ILB, Jonathan Casillas, Wisconsin 6'1 228 4.44e
Knee injury drops him this far, pure coverage specialist_if protected can flow to the ball_if 100%, can step into nickel LB role immediately. Team Captain.
6a - C, A.Q. Shipley, Penn State - 6'1 305 5.15
Plays w/the nastiness of a D player (converted from NT)! Physicality & tenacity only rivalled by his work ethic & intelligence (no problem w/shotgun snap). May need to add 10-15 lbs to play in power blocking scheme. Nation's Best Center in 2008 (Rimington Award Winner)!
6b - NT/DE Sammie Lee Hill, Stillman - 6'4 330 5.15
Extremely raw project, but dominated at the lower level. Strong, quick & nimble for his size. For a player who only knows how to bull rush, and the occasional spin move, shows feel for making plays_14 TFL 4.5 SK 4 FF 1 INT in 2007. Character props for pulling a man out of a burning building.
6c - QB Nathan Brown, Georgia - 6'1 220 4.93
Short but extremely productive. Mobile, can read defenses, can make all the throws. Elite leadership intangibles. Compared to Romo.
7a - NT Roy Miller , Texas - 6'1 310 4.98
2008 Fiesta Bowl Outstanding D Player. Extremely underrated athleticism & production. Tough, tenacious & active against run & pass. High Character, High Effort. (option: Lardarius Webb, Bradley Fletcher)
7b - OT Lydon Murtha, Nebraska - 6'7 306 4.82 Big 12 Honorable Mention. Excellent size and great feet. Probably better suited for a zone blocking scheme but super athletic & agile for his size, huge upside. Project Pick, needs to get bigger & lack of experience due to injuries.
(option: Joel Bell)

I would be happy as hell after the 2nd round then I would have destroyed my house so bad by the time Dallas took Shipley it would of little consolation.
 

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HomeOfLegends;2685020 said:
I would be happy as hell after the 2nd round then I would have destroyed my house so bad by the time Dallas took Shipley it would of little consolation.

I'm guessing you either do not like Shipley, or the picks between Barwin & Shipley?
 

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Never saw Nathan Brown take a snap at QB for Georgia. Must be a real sleeper behind Stafford.
 

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I'm not to crazy about that draft. James Casey in the 3rd rd? Your tellin me there won't be better value on the board other than a FB who can play TE(something we don't need) or a RB(something we definately don't need). I think we could do better.
 

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ologan;2685450 said:
Never saw Nathan Brown take a snap at QB for Georgia. Must be a real sleeper behind Stafford.

LOL. That should say "Central Arkansas". Thanks.
 

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Goldenrichards83;2685460 said:
I'm not to crazy about that draft. James Casey in the 3rd rd? Your tellin me there won't be better value on the board other than a FB who can play TE(something we don't need) or a RB(something we definately don't need). I think we could do better.

Yup. Casey is generally regarded as a 2nd round talent. For all the guys who like Dillard, Casey is the real stud on that Owls' team.


Cowboys needs an upgrade at FB, why not another playmaker? 100 catches is nothing to sneeze at. The kid is a monster, who seeks to punish tacklers.


So who's better? Drafting a WR to sit behind 4 guys? Why not a potential STARTER, from season one, if not day one.
 

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BAT;2685321 said:
I'm guessing you either do not like Shipley, or the picks between Barwin & Shipley?

Love Shipley and Barwin, not the picks in between
 

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HomeOfLegends;2685517 said:
Love Shipley and Barwin, not the picks in between

LOL. I completely understand. I feel the same way about Beckwith.
 

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Yup. Casey is generally regarded as a 2nd round talent. For all the guys who like Dillard, Casey is the real stud on that Owls' team.


Cowboys needs an upgrade at FB, why not another playmaker? 100 catches is nothing to sneeze at. The kid is a monster, who seeks to punish tacklers.


So who's better? Drafting a WR to sit behind 4 guys? Why not a potential STARTER, from season one, if not day one.
I'm all for upgrading the position but thats way to early when better talent will be on the board and we can upgrade that same position deeper into the draft. That would be a total reach imo. He's listed as the 7th best TE on NFLdraftcountdown. The huddlereport has him listed as the best TE in the draft but last I look we are straight at TE why waste a pick there. As for as him playing WR the last thing we need is to draft a guy at WR who is slower than Patrick Crayton. Noone is talking about moving this guy to FB because he is a good prospect at TE.
 

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Goldenrichards83;2685619 said:
I'm all for upgrading the position but thats way to early when better talent will be on the board and we can upgrade that same position deeper into the draft. That would be a total reach imo. He's listed as the 7th best TE on NFLdraftcountdown. The huddlereport has him listed as the best TE in the draft but last I look we are straight at TE why waste a pick there. As for as him playing WR the last thing we need is to draft a guy at WR who is slower than Patrick Crayton. Noone is talking about moving this guy to FB because he is a good prospect at TE.

Just thinking out of the box, like I said, he really does not have a defined pro position. Its really semantics anyway, no matter where you line him up, he is a weapon. A weapon of mass destruction. LOL.


Plus Casey is definitely "Romo-friendly"!
 

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Just thinking out of the box, like I said, he really does not have a defined pro position. Its really semantics anyway, no matter where you line him up, he is a weapon. A weapon of mass destruction. LOL.


Plus Casey is definitely "Romo-friendly"!
Reading more on the guy I can see where you were going with your selection. I just think the pick could be better spent on a position of need instead of taking a guy and making him into something he hasn't played. The guys at the Huddlereport are crazy about him. They see him as a 1st rd talent and like I said the best TE in the draft. Drew Boylhart listed his weakness as and I quote:
NEEDS TO IMPROVE
James has a weakness. I believe he will become weak and immovable if Kryptonite is brought on to the field. I do -- I truly believe that!

And thats all he wrote as far as weakness. Wow!
 

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Goldenrichards83;2685639 said:
Reading more on the guy I can see where you were going with your selection. I just think the pick could be better spent on a position of need instead of taking a guy and making him into something he hasn't played. The guys at the Huddlereport are crazy about him. They see him as a 1st rd talent and like I said the best TE in the draft. Drew Boylhart listed his weakness as and I quote:
NEEDS TO IMPROVE
James has a weakness. I believe he will become weak and immovable if Kryptonite is brought on to the field. I do -- I truly believe that!

And thats all he wrote as far as weakness. Wow!


Tim Tebow wants to be James Casey when he grows up. :laugh2: Seriously, I would consider taking Casey with our first pick (2nd rounder), he is just that good.


Cowboys could use another playmaker on O with the release of Terrell Owens. Watch thes vid, hard NOT to root against such a hard working humble tough nosed head on straight kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2GlcwpWR9M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESygCQmpoqA


Name: *James Casey
College: Rice Number: 12
Height: 6-4 Weight: 235
Position: TE Pos2: QB/FB/H-back Class/Draft Year: So/2009
40 Low: 4.54 40 Time: 4.68 40 High: 4.78
Projected Round: 2-3 High: Early 2 Low: Late 3 Stock:
Rated number 3 out of 102 TE's 48 / 2624 TOTAL

01/05/09 - Rice sophomore utility back James Casey, who famously manned seven positions in ONE game during the 2007 season, announced today that he will forgo his final two years of eligibility and enter the NFL Draft. Casey, 24, signed with Rice in January 2007 after spending four seasons playing professional baseball. He was a seventh-round selection of the Chicago White Sox out of Azle High School in 2003, but retired in 2006 and shopped around for a school where he could revive his football career. Casey originally signed with the Owls as a safety and spent spring drills working at defensive end before later shifting to offense. Rice coach David Bailiff utilized Casey in multiple roles in 2007, going so far as to play him at seven different positions against Southern Miss. As the season progressed, it became obvious that Casey was most potent as a receiver, and he finished the year with 46 receptions for 585 yards and four touchdowns. Casey (6-4, 235) also played quarterback in short-yardage situations, a role he reprised as a sophomore. However, Casey made his greatest contributions as a hybrid tight end, setting a Conference USA single-season record for receptions (111) while also breaking the school mark for receiving yards with 1,329. Casey posted 13 touchdown receptions, rushed for six touchdowns, and passed for two additional scores. - Moisekapenda Bower, The Houston Chronicle
 

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Not enough linemen.

If Casey were there it would make sense to trade w/ some team that needs him.

I dont want a WR/TE. We need a quick WR in this draft.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;2685768 said:
Not enough linemen.

If Casey were there it would make sense to trade w/ some team that needs him.

I dont want a WR/TE. We need a quick WR in this draft.


No we need a good receiver in this draft. And it is not necessary that he plays wide. What is it you don't like? Casey's double digit TDs? Over 1300 yards receiving? Or maybe you don't like the over 100 catches?



Is the 40 time really that important? Over production????



And I have 2 OL and 2 DL in that mock. That is almost HALF the picks. How many lineman did you want???
 

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BAT;2685816 said:
No we need a good receiver in this draft. And it is not necessary that he plays wide. What is it you don't like? Casey's double digit TDs? Over 1300 yards receiving? Or maybe you don't like the over 100 catches?



Is the 40 time really that important? Over production????



And I have 2 OL and 2 DL in that mock. That is almost HALF the picks. How many lineman did you want???

2 of them in the 7th round, Im thinking a G/C and G/T by round 5 at least.

Caseys a fine player, but we have a few holes, and TE isnt one.

Youve got to figure Flo will only get worse. Kosier is ok but theres not much behind him. Davis is the only one I trust.

What good is Casey if Romos getting killed?

And no Im not talking 40 times, but the offense could use a deep threat/dangerous slot WR. Cook is more like a RW type than a Roscoe Parrish
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;2685828 said:
2 of them in the 7th round, Im thinking a G/C and G/T by round 5 at least.

Caseys a fine player, but we have a few holes, and TE isnt one.

Youve got to figure Flo will only get worse. Kosier is ok but theres not much behind him. Davis is the only one I trust.

What good is Casey if Romos getting killed?

And no Im not talking 40 times, but the offense could use a deep threat/dangerous slot WR. Cook is more like a RW type than a Roscoe Parrish

Parrish's greatest value is at returner, not receiver. And if you watched any film, at all, you would see that Casey lined up in the slot a LOT. And if you want an OL by the 5th, then take a gander at BAT Mock 2.0. Sounds like you are arguing just for arguing's sake.


I have seen your drafts, we obviously do not think alike on this topic.
 

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BAT;2685833 said:
Parrish's greatest value is at returner, not receiver. And if you watched any film, at all, you would see that Casey lined up in the slot a LOT. And if you want an OL by the 5th, then take a gander at BAT Mock 2.0. Sounds like you are arguing just for arguing's sake.


I have seen your drafts, we obviously do not think alike on this topic.

I just dont want 2 TE's w/ our first 3 picks before any linemen.

Through FA we got our front 7 set minus a nose, and another backer. W/ the Sensabaugh signing, were not dying for a safety. We could use one(or a corner depending on Scandrick).

That leaves the OL. And your draft mostly ignores it. Im not coming down on you. You posted your mock, I told you where I disagree.

And we do need a PR too. Hell, I might just go after Parrish. They got T.O., Evans, and Hardy.

Bennet for Parrish and a 4th!

Then I might consider Casey ;)
 
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