Baylor mens and womens basketball programs to face possible sanctions

joseephuss;4502619 said:
It was the NCAA's findings about what Morefield did. It wasn't just something made up to sell papers or get web hits.

The NCAA has agreed to Baylor's self-imposed penalties:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-accepts-self-imposed-penalties-text-messages
You're late to the game this was already covered, and the morefield sensationalism was just that, not held against Baylor at all.

Basically Baylor suffers no penalty, they've already done them, proving the NCAA knows it's weak and the national champion and elite 8 squads will not be at detriment by any of it.
 
Aikbach;4501394 said:
And was on discipline for doing it at multiple programs, he did it at multiple universities after being warned, AND he COVERED IT UP, despite your claim there is no Baylor coverup or multiple offense like Sampson, you're reaching at straws.

Aikbach;4502667 said:
You're late to the game this was already covered, and the morefield sensationalism was just that, not held against Baylor at all.

Basically Baylor suffers no penalty, they've already done them, proving the NCAA knows it's weak and the national champion and elite 8 squads will not be at detriment by any of it.

The coverup by Morefield being "not held against Baylor" is different than your earlier statement that "there is no Baylor coverup".
 
joseephuss;4502696 said:
The coverup by Morefield being "not held against Baylor" is different than your earlier statement that "there is no Baylor coverup".
Obviously it was determined whatever he did was not in collusion with the university, it's scratching at the bottom of the barrel to look for offense, a 29 month investigation ends with the wimper of texts found too plentiful and the acceptance of self imposed actions already long in place.

The investigation was basically a waste of time, if that's the worst you can come up with is texts, not exactly SMU or Jackie Sherrill territory, to the chagrin of some gnashing their teeth that wanted Baylor's success to be attributed to cheating so very badly.
 
Aikbach;4502721 said:
Obviously it was determined whatever he did was not in collusion with the university, it's scratching at the bottom of the barrel to look for offense, a 29 month investigation ends with the wimper of texts found too plentiful and the acceptance of self imposed actions already long in place.

The investigation was basically a waste of time, if that's the worst you can come up with is texts, not exactly SMU or Jackie Sherrill territory, to the chagrin of some gnashing their teeth that wanted Baylor's success to be attributed to cheating so very badly.


I don't care if Baylor suffered serious penalties or not. I was never involved in the story enough to care if this was worth of severe punishment or not. You keep going on and on about that, but that was never my point. I just pointed out how you were incorrect in your statement about there being no coverup. There was a coverup as stated by the NCAA's findings. That can't be disputed. They just didn't think the coverup was extensive enough to impose stricter penalties.
 
joseephuss;4502739 said:
I don't care if Baylor suffered serious penalties or not. I was never involved in the story enough to care if this was worth of severe punishment or not. You keep going on and on about that, but that was never my point. I just pointed out how you were incorrect in your statement about there being no coverup. There was a coverup as stated by the NCAA's findings. That can't be disputed. They just didn't think the coverup was extensive enough to impose stricter penalties.
If Baylor was implemented in what was deemed coverup they would've been punished, obviously the connotation of "coverup" is too strong a term and all actions were involved in an individual supposedly and not the university in some "Watergate" conspiracy over too many texts.

Basically it was a sideshow, a waste of time, if this was punishable "corruption" Baylor would've been given a punishment by the NCAA beyond "Eh, you learned your lesson".

Especially since the texting rules broken with improper reporting of call logs in 07-08 are now legal.
 
Aikbach;4502750 said:
If Baylor was implemented in what was deemed coverup they would've been punished, obviously the connotation of "coverup" is too strong a term and all actions were involved in an individual supposedly and not the university in some "Watergate" conspiracy over too many texts.

Basically it was a sideshow, a waste of time, if this was punishable "corruption" Baylor would've been given a punishment by the NCAA beyond "Eh, you learned your lesson".

Especially since the texting rules broken with improper reporting of call logs in 07-08 are now legal.
what a waste of time and money.
 
jimmy40;4506378 said:
what a waste of time and money.
Definitely my friend, it's clear no one in their right mind was offended by 750 additional texts, something I can do back and forth in less than a month, but someone was very perturbed with Baylor's recruiting success and bound and determined to prove it was somehow scandalous and they failed.
 
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