Bell vs Zeke

[ringmaster]

It's Zeke. We just don't need to pass the ball as much to him. Zeke is the best pass blocker at the position and can run block like a FB. Zeke is the better runner too.

Quick question who has the longest passing TD between Bell and Zeke

Of course it's Zeke against Bell's team with the 83yd TD and that is what I try to explain to this Steelers fan that both RBs are used differently for their offense and I'm a fan of both players if you flip flop both guys with Bell in Dallas, and Elliott in Pittsburgh you would get similar results but nooooo this Steelers fan thinks that Bell would break records behind the Cowboys oline it's like Barry vs Emmitt all over again.

 

[robjay04]

After I saw that relay on NFL network last week, I immediately wanted to see a rematch.

These are two evenly matched squads that could put together one of the best Super Bowl matchups in history. I hope to see them again with the exact same results!

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I'm a huge Sayers fan. I think I see what you mean, but Bell has some jump cut in him. Sayers was just the smoothest runner I've ever seen, a guy who seemed he could cut back sharply or run in mud at full speed, always pulling away from tacklers and seeing angles that were still 20 yards away. He called it himself, "just give me 6 inches of daylight; that's all I need." Even in traffic, he just ran away from everyone, like he was invisible or something.

I always thought Gale knew where you were going before you got there. The lean of the guy, tendencies, whatever. And once he decided on a cut, he was too fast to be caught. Just gone, just special.

 

[Jason 82 Witten]

But Ben said last week the Steelers have the best OL in football

 

[ringmaster]

Bell is a unique back with great vision and patience.

Zeke is more of a Bo Jackson type with power and raw speed.

They're both fantastic backs for sure.

 

[Cowboys_22]

Zeke gained more yardage and plays for America's Team.

Zeke all day long

Go Cowboys!

 

[Maxmadden]

Sanders never had the patience or vision, he just ran away from everything, obviously the best runner in NFL history but not the best RB.

People tend to get caught up in the measureable of a RB. In the end it's more about moving the chains. Does he do it with patience, power, or speed ? It really doesn't matter as long as you are getting the meat off the bone.

David Johnson would have excelled on this years team as well as Bell would have. Both are somewhat finesse runners and receivers and Zeke is more of a power /speed back that can by the way, catch a few passes.

Everybody always said Sanders was the best back in the NFL at the time, but he never possessed what Emmitt had. Emmitt never was fast or quick as Sanders. He had something else that was more important. He was able to get all the meat off the bone. He moved the chains. He wasn't fast but he could obtain top speed in 5 yards and the vision to hit the holes and could power through tackles to get that extra yard.. He was rarely caught from behind for such a slow guy, but he just got such an extra head start. I know people who say Emmitt was great because of the OL, but they were mostly castoffs until Emmett got there..

More to the point. Elliot is the type of back that will strip all the meat from the bone and then some. He has the vision, speed, power, combo, that is unlike any back in the NFL. By the way we also have the best OL in the league and that was before Elliot came here..

I am thrilled with the Dak story but this train is all about EE..

 

[AsthmaField]

Elliott would have put up 300 yards with those holes today. Miami wasn't stacking the line like Elliott saw all season long.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Of course it's Zeke against Bell's team with the 83yd TD and that is what I try to explain to this Steelers fan that both RBs are used differently for their offense and I'm a fan of both players if you flip flop both guys with Bell in Dallas, and Elliott in Pittsburgh you would get similar results but nooooo this Steelers fan thinks that Bell would break records behind the Cowboys oline it's like Barry vs Emmitt all over again.

Steelers actually have a ok line and have invested in it.

 

[CCBoy]

Steelers actually have a ok line and have invested in it.

Man, but does this fan hate the Steelers...something like the Seahawks.

 

[ringmaster]

Sanders never had the patience or vision, he just ran away from everything, obviously the best runner in NFL history but not the best RB.

People tend to get caught up in the measureable of a RB. In the end it's more about moving the chains. Does he do it with patience, power, or speed ? It really doesn't matter as long as you are getting the meat off the bone.

David Johnson would have excelled on this years team as well as Bell would have. Both are somewhat finesse runners and receivers and Zeke is more of a power /speed back that can by the way, catch a few passes.

Everybody always said Sanders was the best back in the NFL at the time, but he never possessed what Emmitt had. Emmitt never was fast or quick as Sanders. He had something else that was more important. He was able to get all the meat off the bone. He moved the chains. He wasn't fast but he could obtain top speed in 5 yards and the vision to hit the holes and could power through tackles to get that extra yard.. He was rarely caught from behind for such a slow guy, but he just got such an extra head start. I know people who say Emmitt was great because of the OL, but they were mostly castoffs until Emmett got there..

More to the point. Elliot is the type of back that will strip all the meat from the bone and then some. He has the vision, speed, power, combo, that is unlike any back in the NFL. By the way we also have the best OL in the league and that was before Elliot came here..

I am thrilled with the Dak story but this train is all about EE..

I get your point @Maxmadden about how each RB was/is unique and different in their own style in reference to Barry, Emmitt, Zeke, and Le'Veon and I definitely agree that both Sanders, and Bell were/are finesse RB and there is nothing wrong with that. Zeke is an Emmitt with more speed and power and can move the chains and finish runs and that is as you mentioned some people overlook when it comes to these debates as to whose better. As for which player is more important to this team between Dak, and Zeke and yes Zeke is what stirs the drink to this offense but without Dak this season minus Romo this team is not in the playoffs and definitely not NFC East Champions imo both Dak, and Zeke are important to this team.

 

[ringmaster]

Steelers actually have a ok line and have invested in it.

They certainly do their Center Pouncey when healthy is one of the top 5 in the league so you're right their Oline isn't chopped liver either.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

They are both ultra-productive RBs:

Zeke ended the season with 1994 total yards in 15 games (132 yards per game)
Bell ended the season with 1884 total yards 12 games (157 yards per game)

Zeke is clearly the better pure runner. Bell looks to be the better receiver, at least at this stage of his career.

Really hard to go wrong with either guy. Given Zeke is a rookie this is a easy choice however, -- I'd take Zeke.

I think Bel is the better player and i'm not sure why you say Zeke is clearly the better pure runner.

Bell seems to maximize literally almost every run. It's incredible.

 

[Idgit]

Bell is really fun to watch. I've never seen a more patient runner. It's really fun to watch.

Elliott's a great runner, too. Both are very good players. I don't think the linear comparison thing matters very much, but I will say that it'll be interesting to see what sort of player Zeke is after a year or two in the league. I bet his game changes fairly significantly between now and then.

 

[Maxmadden]

I get your point @Maxmadden about how each RB was/is unique and different in their own style in reference to Barry, Emmitt, Zeke, and Le'Veon and I definitely agree that both Sanders, and Bell were/are finesse RB and there is nothing wrong with that. Zeke is an Emmitt with more speed and power and can move the chains and finish runs and that is as you mentioned some people overlook when it comes to these debates as to whose better. As for which player is more important to this team between Dak, and Zeke and yes Zeke is what stirs the drink to this offense but without Dak this season minus Romo this team is not in the playoffs and definitely not NFC East Champions imo both Dak, and Zeke are important to this team.

Don't recall mentioning either Dak or Romo but I feel confident we are in good hands with either.

The OL and Zeke are the impetus.

 

[Maxmadden]

Bell is really fun to watch. I've never seen a more patient runner. It's really fun to watch.

Elliott's a great runner, too. Both are very good players. I don't think the linear comparison thing matters very much, but I will say that it'll be interesting to see what sort of player Zeke is after a year or two in the league. I bet his game changes fairly significantly between now and then.

I don't think I know enough about football to know if Elliot could sit there and wait for something to open up behind this OL, or if it is something in particular that Pittsburg runs. He just seems to sit there and wait to see who is making their blocks and takes that route.

Seems to be effective but it just seems he is wasting so much time dancing at the LOS, but still rips off a 10 yard gain. I am still confused at how he seems to get away with this on a recurring basis.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I don't think I know enough about football to know if Elliot could sit there and wait for something to open up behind this OL, or if it is something in particular that Pittsburg runs. He just seems to sit there and wait to see who is making their blocks and takes that route.

Seems to be effective but it just seems he is wasting so much time dancing at the LOS, but still rips off a 10 yard gain. I am still confused at how he seems to get away with this on a recurring basis.

It's really special to see.

 

[CCBoy]

I don't think I know enough about football to know if Elliot could sit there and wait for something to open up behind this OL, or if it is something in particular that Pittsburg runs. He just seems to sit there and wait to see who is making their blocks and takes that route.

Seems to be effective but it just seems he is wasting so much time dancing at the LOS, but still rips off a 10 yard gain. I am still confused at how he seems to get away with this on a recurring basis.

He mostly turns it up field and gains yardage. He had a per carry average over 5 yards. Speaks loud enough for this fan to be contented.

 

[Tabascocat]

Bell but Zeke is right on his heels. I am going by what I see strictly on the field, not what occurs off of it. They are both above everyone else by a wide margin except maybe Johnson.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Who cares? Ill take Zeke, Bell has been doing it longer. Ill let another fan have this small victory...for now.

Yea I really don't care. Let's see Bell against a real defense next week