Bellecheat screwed up

yeah and all this reloading has won them how many rings? They have not reloaded that defense very well, have they?
 
I watched a bunch of video of Solder yesterday. He's a real good athlete for a guy that size, but I saw him get detroyed against Cal. Gave up 3 sacks in the first half.

That pick really surprised me. I figured they would have taken Cameron Jordan or Mark Ingram.
 
burmafrd;3927624 said:
Solder is not going to be a really good one no matter how hard they work on him

The guy has issues sinking his hips combined with the fact that he is 6'8, bullrushers are going to blow him up left and right.
 
burmafrd;3929404 said:
yeah and all this reloading has won them how many rings? They have not reloaded that defense very well, have they?

Alot of rings since Bill has been there. You are right. They are lucky to have been 14-2 last year and have one of the most stable franchises. What a bunch of jake-legs. You make no sense.
 
The guys on the ticket ripped him pretty good last night and were thankful the Cowboys stayed away.
 
HoustonFrog;3929496 said:
Alot of rings since Bill has been there. You are right. They are lucky to have been 14-2 last year and have one of the most stable franchises. What a bunch of jake-legs. You make no sense.


They got lucky w/ Brady and cheated. Since then what have they done? Brady and Manning get you 10 wins automatically. The Patriots are not loaded and are burning Bradys prime w/ this cutsey bull****

Look what happened when they got a top 10 WR in Moss, Brady broke every record in the league. But nah, lets never get replace that weapon. Lets pretend Danny Woodhead is actually anything.
 
Chief;3929465 said:
I watched a bunch of video of Solder yesterday. He's a real good athlete for a guy that size, but I saw him get detroyed against Cal. Gave up 3 sacks in the first half.

That pick really surprised me. I figured they would have taken Cameron Jordan or Mark Ingram.

my guess they thought (correctly) that all the better OTs will be gone by 28 while they can still get good defensive talent at 28 or early in 2

i think they made the right decision to go with OT at 17, now should they have gone with costanzo instead of solder? that is up to their scouts
 
HoustonFrog;3929496 said:
Alot of rings since Bill has been there. You are right. They are lucky to have been 14-2 last year and have one of the most stable franchises. What a bunch of jake-legs. You make no sense.


Since 2004 how many rings has the Pats won?
 
MarionBarberThe4th;3928984 said:
Thats a lot of meh.


Tom Brady is like 33, how about you stop playing around and go get Julio Jones?

People keep saying they are the smartest team but having Peyton and Brady makes you look smarter than you really are. Those teams arent great but they contend b/c of the elite QB play.

Lol, most of the players would be starters here in Dallas. It's also funny to criticize the Patriots for not being smart, yet they do have Tom Brady, a pick of their own. They also drafted Matt Cassell who led them to an 11-5 record. They also win with no names at the receiver position and a midget at running back in Danny Woodhead.

It comical to criticize them when they are consistantly putting up 11-12 win seasons for the past decade.
 
MarionBarberThe4th;3929535 said:
They got lucky w/ Brady and cheated. Since then what have they done? Brady and Manning get you 10 wins automatically. The Patriots are not loaded and are burning Bradys prime w/ this cutsey bull****

Brilliant. How can anyone argue with that?
 
realtick;3929719 said:
Lol, most of the players would be starters here in Dallas. It's also funny to criticize the Patriots for not being smart, yet they do have Tom Brady, a pick of their own. They also drafted Matt Cassell who led them to an 11-5 record. They also win with no names at the receiver position and a midget at running back in Danny Woodhead.

It comical to criticize them when they are consistantly putting up 11-12 win seasons for the past decade.


They try to be the smartest guys in the room and it keeps coming back to bite them. No pass rush, no big play WR's? Lets get Solder and a 2012 pick. Tom Bradys reaction? Uhhh, I wont be playing forever guys.

realtick;3929722 said:
Brilliant. How can anyone argue with that?


No one would. If they did Jake Locker would just go top 10 again :)
 
MarionBarberThe4th;3929730 said:
They try to be the smartest guys in the room and it keeps coming back to bite them. No pass rush, no big play WR's? Lets get Solder and a 2012 pick. Tom Bradys reaction? Uhhh, I wont be playing forever guys.




No one would. If they did Jake Locker would just go top 10 again :)

It's like you aren't paying attention. They did draft guy who were supposed to be good RBs and it didn't work. So they made it work with what they had and still went 14-2. That isn't all Brady. Until last year they consistently had one of the best Ds...underrated with top DBs and D-lienman. They then drafted LBs to take their place and are still filling in. The draft is a crapshoot yet somehow they are still relevant. You have no clue how Solder does in the system and now they have 3 2nd rounders with guys like Mike Leshoure sitting there...rated higher than Ingram by many. Let's see what they do. I have a hard time ripping a team that was winning SBs and still hits 11-12 wins a year. Again, that must be all luck, etc. Do it our way and wait another 16 years to matter..lol They won all their SBs with WRs that weren't big play guys so your statement holds no water.
 
Like I asked- when was their last championship? Much more recent then our own of course- but if they are so brilliant why have they not won another since?
 
Looks to me as if they drafted one of the two highest guys left on their board.
 
burmafrd;3929954 said:
Like I asked- when was their last championship? Much more recent then our own of course- but if they are so brilliant why have they not won another since?

When was the last time the Steelers won a Super Bowl?

Is that franchise more "brilliant" because it's won a Super Bowl in more recent history?

Why don't we consider his resume since he took over the Patriots in 2000:

Four Super Bowls - 2007, 2004, 2003, 2001 (wins in bold)

Finished 1st place in his division 8 times since 2000 (including 4 championships)

Career record with the Patriots 116-45 (.720 winning %), postseason 15-4 (.789).


Meh, but he hasn't won a Super Bowl in four seasons, so he's really overrated.

Seriously, what were you saying in 1999, four years removed from watching the last Cowboys Super Bowl win and some bonehead fan says "meh, the Cowboys aren't that great....if they were, when was the last time they won a championship?" In doing so, they completely disregard the dominance of that dynasty through the most part of that decade and the brilliance from which they were put together.
 
realtick;3930048 said:
When was the last time the Steelers won a Super Bowl?

Is that franchise more "brilliant" because it's won a Super Bowl in more recent history?

Why don't we consider his resume since he took over the Patriots in 2000:

Four Super Bowls - 2007, 2004, 2003, 2001 (wins in bold)

Finished 1st place in his division 8 times since 2000 (including 4 championships)

Career record with the Patriots 116-45 (.720 winning %), postseason 15-4 (.789).


Meh, but he hasn't won a Super Bowl in four seasons, so he's really overrated.

Seriously, what were you saying in 1999, four years removed from watching the last Cowboys Super Bowl win and some bonehead fan says "meh, the Cowboys aren't that great....if they were, when was the last time they won a championship?" In doing so, they completely disregard the dominance of that dynasty and the brilliance from which they were put together.

Thanks, you beat me to it. I guess brilliance only happens if you win it a record time in a decade and more than anyone in the history of the sport. Forgot about those stats you threw out.:rolleyes:
 
realtick;3927675 said:
Lol, really?

Wow, they grabbed Devin McCourty, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Spikes, et cetera last year.:rolleyes:
LOL

They had an awesome draft last year.
 
burmafrd;3929954 said:
Like I asked- when was their last championship? Much more recent then our own of course- but if they are so brilliant why have they not won another since?
Yup, all they've managed to do in the last six years is win their division five times, get to the conference championship game twice and the Super Bowl once. Oh yeah, and have a 16-0 year. They must be idiots.

And they finished only 14-2 this past season, a clear indictment of their drafting ability in the past few years.
 
jimnabby;3930175 said:
Yup, all they've managed to do in the last six years is win their division five times, get to the conference championship game twice and the Super Bowl once. Oh yeah, and have a 16-0 year. They must be idiots.

And they finished only 14-2 this past season, a clear indictment of their drafting ability in the past few years.

And Peyton Manning keeps winning 10 plus games every year. Good QB's tend to do that
 
MarionBarberThe4th;3930199 said:
And Peyton Manning keeps winning 10 plus games every year. Good QB's tend to do that
The Pats won 11 without Brady a couple years ago.
 

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