coach316;3162944 said:
Last I knew QB's could play great games and lose, and QB's could play crappy and win. How is that I wonder? Oh yeah....there's 21 other men out there on the field. What do they call that again? A team?
LOL! Exactly. Good luck trying to make some of the folks here realise it's still a team game. They continue to think football is like the Madden football game and it's all about one person.
jcdavey;3162971 said:
romo and rivers are the two best right now
meaning recently not all season
you can't really bring up the w/l stat to discredit a qb when he's playing near flawless football
look at rivers last year, he lead the NFL in qb rating, TDs, td to int ratio , qb rating, yards per attempt, broke dan fouts single season chargers record, yet only finished 8-8 due to his crap defense + lack of running game
so when evaluating talent, you have to look beyond w/l if the player is doing his damn job
i mean if ware had 4 sacks and you lost, would you blame ware?
No they wouldn't blame Ware. But if Romo threw for 300+ yards and 3 or 4 TDs without a pick and the team lost you can believe they'd still blame it on Romo.
Romo 2 Austin;3163020 said:
Yes, Romo is the best QB in the NFL.
I've said it for weeks.
No one really pays attention to you though because you can't be taken seriously.
I mean I love Romo as much as any big time Cowboys fan. I think he's great and I'm thrilled we've got him.
But best in the NFL? Nah. There is just no argument that can be made that will make me believe, at this point, that he's better than a couple of other QBs out there. Peyton Manning in particular.
Romo 2 Austin;3163036 said:
Thank you, but a man who extends plays when it counts, carrys his offense because of a terrible offensive line and runs the ball when his team needs him to run is not only the MVP of that team, but a candidate for best QB and MVP of the league.
So what you're saying then is that Big Ben is really the best QB in the league? I mean after all that's exactly what he does with a crappy Steelers offensive line and he's helped take the Steelers to 2 Superbowl championships already.
stilltheguru;3163193 said:
So when we win it's because of Romo and when we lose its everybody elses fault. Yep thats Cowboy fans for you.
No when we win most people realise that Romo is part of the win along with others playing well at the same time. When we lose people also realise that it's not all one player. When Romo plays well but the defense or special teams doesn't show up I still can't see how you can blame that on the QB. Though a few of you continue to try.
When he plays poorly, as he did against Greenbay and in the first Giants game, and in the Denver game then you've got to saddle part of the loss on him.
The losses in the second Giants game or the Chargers game simply can't be saddled on him as his fault as he was doing his job and doing it very well. If our defense showed up in those games, like they did Saturday, this team is 3-0 in December right now.
That is a fact.