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for certain skills. Dont recall seeing any Cowboys listed. Incredibly the named Anthont Fasano best blocking tight end. I thought that was one of the reasons they dumped him.
 

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You have a link or something? I would like to read it.
 

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It was. He wasn't particularly bad. But he wasn't particularly good either.
 

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RS12;2565264 said:
for certain skills. Dont recall seeing any Cowboys listed. Incredibly the named Anthont Fasano best blocking tight end. I thought that was one of the reasons they dumped him.

I was a little amused by that report a few days ago too.

I honestly think it was the other way around and it was simply misreported. Garrett probably wanted a more athletic tight end who could bring more in the passing game and Bennett certainly is that. It is not like he is or ever has been a Ben Graham/Kyle Brady type as a blocker.
 

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Alexander;2565281 said:
I was a little amused by that report a few days ago too.

I honestly think it was the other way around and it was simply misreported. Garrett probably wanted a more athletic tight end who could bring more in the passing game and Bennett certainly is that. It is not like he is or ever has been a Ben Graham/Kyle Brady type as a blocker.
While Bennett certainly is an athletic type, his biggest asset coming out of college was his blocking. He had somewhere upwards of 67 knockdown blocks in a single season in college.
 

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theogt;2565284 said:
While Bennett certainly is an athletic type, his biggest asset coming out of college was his blocking. He had somewhere upwards of 67 knockdown blocks in a single season in college.

Yeah he should have had plenty of blocking practice in that offense he played in college.
 

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JordanTaber;2565288 said:
Fasano IS an excellent blocker. I noticed that reviewing Cowboys games.
Review the blocking in that fumbled FG snap against Seattle in the 06-07 playoffs.
 

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Fasano struggled here for 2 years, primarily because he had bum shoulder(s) both seasons. They were in rough shape and he couldn't train very hard and push much. It seemed to be a chronic injury, and I felt he might not be reliable long term. I don't think he is as "good" as he seemed to be in Miami, but I saw him live at training camp 2 years ago make one of the most athletic 1 handed grabs I've ever seen. Sometimes it takes the lightbulb a couple of years to turn on, but he just didn't seem to fit here that well, even with Parcells running the ship. He missed a number of key blocks if I remember, both on offense and on special teams.

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theogt;2565298 said:
Review the blocking in that fumbled FG snap against Seattle in the 06-07 playoffs.

Why? What does a single play have to do with the overall determination of his abilities?

Nobody makes EVERY block.
 

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theogt;2565298 said:
Review the blocking in that fumbled FG snap against Seattle in the 06-07 playoffs.

did his miss block cause the bobbled snap? because you could easily blame gramatica for not getting in the way of the defender who chased romo down from behind. when blocking for a fg attempt, you typically don't hold your block for 10 seconds. otherwise you could blame the host of OL that didn't hold their men and let them help pursue romo.
 

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LarryCanadian;2565304 said:
Fasano struggled here for 2 years, primarily because he had bum shoulder(s) both seasons. They were in rough shape and he couldn't train very hard and push much. It seemed to be a chronic injury, and I felt he might not be reliable long term. I don't think he is as "good" as he seemed to be in Miami, but I saw him live at training camp 2 years ago make one of the most athletic 1 handed grabs I've ever seen. Sometimes it takes the lightbulb a couple of years to turn on, but he just didn't seem to fit here that well, even with Parcells running the ship. He missed a number of key blocks if I remember, both on offense and on special teams.

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How good was he in Miami? He caught 34 passes as the starter? That is about where I would think he would be based on the talent level I watched him exhibit. His numbers obviously would be lower as a back up like he was in Dallas. Still I expected more than two straight 14 reception seasons.

Fasano did score 7 TDs this year. That was something he could not do in Dallas. I thought the second tight end in the Dallas scheme could take advantage of all the attention the defense give TO and Witten and score a few TDs per season. Bennett put up 4 this year. Fasano put up 1 in two years.

I never saw excellent blocking out of Fasano while in Dallas. Bennett is not an excellent blocker, either, but he has shown more as a blocker than Fasano did in Dallas.
 

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HanD;2565485 said:
did his miss block cause the bobbled snap? because you could easily blame gramatica for not getting in the way of the defender who chased romo down from behind. when blocking for a fg attempt, you typically don't hold your block for 10 seconds. otherwise you could blame the host of OL that didn't hold their men and let them help pursue romo.
He didn't hold his block for 10 seconds. Actually, he didn't block his guy at all. He just stood up, turned sideways, and watched him run right by him. Unfortunately, his guy happened to be the one that tackled Tony from behind.
 

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and i blame gramatica more on that play than fasano. if the play had gone accordingly, his actions wouldn't have mattered. since gramatica had a first hand view of the action, he should have been able to get in the safety's way. then again i never liked martin so i could be biased
 

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RS12;2565264 said:
for certain skills. Dont recall seeing any Cowboys listed. Incredibly the named Anthont Fasano best blocking tight end. I thought that was one of the reasons they dumped him.

According to the information I read back when we traded Fasano, Dallas didn't dump him because he couldn't block, but because he had too many missed assignments. In other words, he wasn't very smart in learning his playbook.

Maybe Miami dumbed his role down, or maybe playing the regular tight end position (or just more time in the league) has made it easier for him. Or maybe Dallas just didn't think that much of him after Parcells left and really didn't have a good reason for giving him up.
 

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HanD;2565516 said:
and i blame gramatica more on that play than fasano. if the play had gone accordingly, his actions wouldn't have mattered. since gramatica had a first hand view of the action, he should have been able to get in the safety's way. then again i never liked martin so i could be biased
Sorry, but that's ********. Gramatica isn't assigned to block the guy, but even he made an attempt. Fasano is assigned to block the guy, and he doesn't make an attempt.
 

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How can Dallas give up on Fasano so soon yet cling to Bobby Carpenter for so long?
 

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theogt;2565574 said:
Sorry, but that's ********. Gramatica isn't assigned to block the guy, but even he made an attempt. Fasano is assigned to block the guy, and he doesn't make an attempt.

so if there is a timing route, the qb throws the ball before the WR cuts and if all goes according to plan the pass would have been on target but the WR slips, is the INT the QBs fault? in other words, what he did was inconsequential to the play as planned and if executed. the only reason you point him out is because the mistake of another person on the play. if you point fasano out, call out the other 3 or 4 blockers whose guys helped coral romo after the botched hold.

my 10 yo cousin could have made more of an attempt than gramatica. he was in position to see the play develop and did nothing but throw his hand in the way. heck, even a tackle or holding penalty on gramatica is better than what he did, at least then we would have gotten a penalty and rekicked it.
 
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