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that fit our scheme (height, weight).

Here's what's left in my estimation. Let me know if I'm missing anyone.

OT Bruce Campbell 6'6" 314lbs
OT Tony Washington 6'6" 311lbs
OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 323lbs
OT Sam Young 6'8" 316lbs
OT Jason Fox 6'7" 303lbs

Pickings look slim.
 
SaltwaterServr;3369773 said:
How about centers?

OC isn't as easily distinguishable as an OT for me to speculate.

Also OC is very low on our list of draft needs. You have to think, OT, FS and DL would trump all other needs.

We have just 3 picks left so.....
 
SaltwaterServr;3369773 said:
How about centers?
are you thinking what I am thinking? I have been saying for years I would LOVE to move Gurode BACK to Guard...where his power can be utilized on an every down basis. I want a technician at C...and he is not one.
 
KD;3369764 said:
that fit our scheme (height, weight).

Here's what's left in my estimation. Let me know if I'm missing anyone.

OT Bruce Campbell 6'6" 314lbs
OT Tony Washington 6'6" 311lbs
OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 323lbs
OT Sam Young 6'8" 316lbs
OT Jason Fox 6'7" 303lbs

Pickings look slim.

Yikes, slim pickings is right. Bruce Campbell is the best of the bunch I guess.
 
Guys, it is looking like we are going to play with what we got. That means Free at LT, Columbo at RT, and Brewster is the swing tackle.


Man, we better not have any injuries or we are screwed!!!
 
bbailey423;3369819 said:
are you thinking what I am thinking? I have been saying for years I would LOVE to move Gurode BACK to Guard...where his power can be utilized on an every down basis. I want a technician at C...and he is not one.

Why? He sucked at guard and didnt start performing until he moved back to center.
 
KD;3369764 said:
that fit our scheme (height, weight).

Here's what's left in my estimation. Let me know if I'm missing anyone.

OT Bruce Campbell 6'6" 314lbs
OT Tony Washington 6'6" 311lbs
OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 323lbs
OT Sam Young 6'8" 316lbs
OT Jason Fox 6'7" 303lbs

Pickings look slim.

Outside of Campbell, I do not think there is any tackle left that can be much better than what we already have, scary as that is.

We might take a stab at players like Marshall Newhouse, Ramon Harewood or Nic Richmond.

I am more interested in the C/OG pool:

C Matt Tennant, Boston College - I want him. Now. Goodbye Proctor.

OG Reggie Stephens, Iowa State - fits our mold

C/OG Joe Hawley, UNLV - good swing player who has had quite a few teams interested in him late

There is always Petrus as well, who might end up being our fourth round choice.

But like you said, slim pickings.
 
WDN;3369825 said:
Why? He sucked at guard and didnt start performing until he moved back to center.
He sucked at guard? Why? Because Bill Parcells said he did? The same Bill Parcells that tried to force Rob Petitti and Torin Tucker down our throat! The same Bill Parcells that got rid of Antonio Bryant for Keyshawn. The same Bill Parcells that got rid of Joey Galloway? The same Bill Parcells that shove Akin Ayodele down our throat? The same Bill Parcells that drafted Carpenter and Fasano? Listen, loved what Parcells did for the Cowboys. I know many posters don't think I do...but I do. I just don't think he invented the game of football. I seriously think had the Cowboys drafted the Center last year that the Seahwaks snatched before we got to him....Gurode would have been moved to gurad. He is big, powerful...can move people off the board. He is m ore of a mauler than a technician. He could handle anyone one on one at guard. As a center, he has to get the line protections right, get the snap count right...snap the ball...then figure out who to help. It is just my opinion that He would be better off mauling the guy in front of him....and I would not be surprised if the Cowboys are thinking the same thing.
 
bbailey423;3369829 said:
He sucked at guard? Why? Because Bill Parcells said he did?

No, because he really did, honest.
 
KD;3369764 said:
that fit our scheme (height, weight).

Here's what's left in my estimation. Let me know if I'm missing anyone.

OT Bruce Campbell 6'6" 314lbs
OT Tony Washington 6'6" 311lbs
OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 323lbs
OT Sam Young 6'8" 316lbs
OT Jason Fox 6'7" 303lbs

Pickings look slim.

Sam Young and Kyle Calloway are strictly RT's. I dont think there is much interest there.

Dont be surprised if Fox and Washington are UDFA's.

The fact that Bruce Campbell is still available in the 4th should tell you a lot but I feel he is great value at this point.
 
SDogo;3369859 said:
Sam Young and Kyle Calloway are strictly RT's. I dont think there is much interest there.

Dont be surprised if Fox and Washington are UDFA's.

The fact that Bruce Campbell is still available in the 4th should tell you a lot but I feel he is great value at this point.

Spot on about Young and Calloway. Young in particular I think is overrated by most fans. He is a player who will be a seventh round pick or something and armchair GMs will think he's a steal because he's recognizable.

Fox, there is something with him that is a problem, but I don't believe he falls out of the draft. Newhouse will probably go sometime too.

As for Campbell, I would do whatever I could to get him now. There is probably a medical reason he's tumbled this far, no doubt about it, but a fourth round choice is a nice gamble on him.
 
I like Ciron Black..........I went to the same school as him, Brandon Pettigrew, and Matt Flynn so I would love for the cowboys to get Tyler,TX OG Black and i think if coached up to be a good OG.

Ciron Black: LSU Height:6-5 Weight:327

40-Yard Dash:5.49
Bench press:23
Vertical jump:25.5
Broad jump:7'07


For four years and 53 consecutive games, LSU's Ciron Black showed up at the same place to work - left tackle. Analysts agree there's a place in the NFL for Black, whose 53 consecutive starts is a school record. But it's going to be a new one. That's fine, said Black, who is in the process of making the transition - physically and mentally -, in preparation for the NFL draft, which begins April 22. "You want to get in where you fit in, " Black said at LSU's Pro Day on March 15, emphasizing the rhyme. "Some teams at the combine liked me at right tackle, and some liked me at guard. They want you to be versatile. I'm trying to re-establish myself. I didn't do as well as I wanted to toward the beginning of the season; I improved late in the season. I wanted to show them (scouts) what type of feet I had, increase my speed and quickness." Scouts said left tackle is out of the question, because it requires more athleticism than Black has in his 6-foot-4, 327-pound body. That was evident at his combine and pro day performances. Black ran 5.49 seconds in the 40-yard dash and had a 7-7 broad jump and a 26-inch vertical leap. Since graduating from LSU in December, Black has spent most of his time at the D1 sports training facility in Nashville, Tenn., to improve physically. "I've been working on overall agility, moving from point A to point B at the drop of a dime, " he said. "I try to avoid false stepping and things like that, because offensive line coaches talk about steps being so precise and so quick." Whatever happens next week, Black often said just being considered for a career in pro ball is a blessing.
 
My prediction is that if we don't use our 4th round pick on an OL, then we won't be taking an OL in this draft. The Cowboys usually use it's 6th/7th rounders on players who can contribute to Special Teams. OL's don't provide as much value on Special Teams so we generally don't use these late rounds on OL.
 
sadevil;3369900 said:
My prediction is that if we don't use our 4th round pick on an OL, then we won't be taking an OL in this draft. The Cowboys usually use it's 6th/7th rounders on players who can contribute to Special Teams. OL's don't provide as much value on Special Teams so we generally don't use these late rounds on OL.

I agree.
 
bbailey423;3369819 said:
are you thinking what I am thinking? I have been saying for years I would LOVE to move Gurode BACK to Guard...where his power can be utilized on an every down basis. I want a technician at C...and he is not one.

Didn't Gurode fail miserably at OG ???
 
Alexander;3369833 said:
No, because he really did, honest.
no...sucking at a position was Rob Pettiti and Torrin Tucker....but because Parcells rolled them out and told us how good they could BECOME we bought in. Gurode did not SUCK at guard. He was a young player with concentration issues. He is OVERRATED at center...he misses protection calls to much....makes in inordinate amount of bad snaps....and I think could really benefit from not having all the responsibilities a Center has
 
TheDallasDon;3369870 said:
I like Ciron Black..........I went to the same school as him, Brandon Pettigrew, and Matt Flynn so I would love for the cowboys to get Tyler,TX OG Black and i think if coached up to be a good OG.

Ciron Black: LSU Height:6-5 Weight:327

40-Yard Dash:5.49
Bench press:23
Vertical jump:25.5
Broad jump:7'07
Norm mentioned his name earlier this week as someone the Cowboys were interested in around the 4th round.
 
Beast_from_East;3369823 said:
Guys, it is looking like we are going to play with what we got. That means Free at LT, Columbo at RT, and Brewster is the swing tackle.
Jerry said he had a plan. Since the season doesn't start for over 4 months from now we have plenty of time make additions.
 

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