Best way to draft a QB?

buybuydandavis

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This implies an obvious truth. The higher you draft, the higher the probability of successfully drafting a productive QB.
Just wrong. It implies a different obvious truth, that the higher the pick the more likely *that* player is good.

But that doesn't make the high picks the better investment. You're not limited to drafting one QB every blue moon, or only playing one.

Now calculate those stats *per draft value*.

You want to get the most marginal probability of a productive QB per draft value expended. From your own numbers, I don't think that's in the first round of the draft.

And those numbers get distorted by management that except under rare circumstances, has to prove that the guy they picked high is the better QB, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because you're going to give him much more practice and play time.
 

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It didn't work out but they wanted to draft Sam Howell last year. With hindsight I think they wish they had
Keep em coming.

QB salaries are ridiculous. Just a bad investment of cap dollar unless his name is Brady or Mahomes.
 

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I don't think Jerry and son will ever use a 1st round pick on a QB. They lucked into Romo and Dak without using a top pick. That is enough for them to believe that they are better and smarter than everyone else and look to find another like Dak and Romo.
I'm sure they can say for every first round QB in the playoffs, there are a bunch of first round QB's drafted high that didn't do squat. Look at the Jets. They drafted two QB's in the top ten in the last 5 years and one is gone and the other they shut down this year because he couldn't play.
 

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The only way I think this is a realistic scenario is if they are able to trade Dak. With him on the roster and you draft his replacement it just gets very weird and you split the locker room.
Its already split . . . Micah drew a line in the sand
 

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It's crazy how this franchise won't even consider drafting a QB in the early rounds. Packers drafted Rodgers when they had Favre, then drafted Love when they had Rodgers. The Patriots drafted Garrapollo when they had Brady. The 49ers drafted Lance after Garrapollo had led them to a Superbowl appearance and another championship game, but Dak gets no pressure put on him?
Best way to draft a QB is often. We should draft a QB every other year looking at every round. Good QBs are the absolute hardest to find which is why they are so overpaid. Just thinking the good ones only happen in the first round is foolish. They happen in all rounds. Many of the greats were drafted in later rounds.
  • Roger Staubach was drafted in the 10th round in 1964.
  • HOFer Bart Starr of the packers was drafted in the 17th round.
  • HOFer Joe Montana was taken in the 3rd round.
  • Former NFL MVP Rich Gannon was drafted in round 4.
  • HOFer Chiefs QB Len Dawson was drafted in the 5th round.
  • The GOAT Tom Brady- 6th round.
All these greats either won SBs Or took teams to SBs.
Look at these great QBs drafted LATER in round 1:
  • HOFer Dan Marino was drafted with the 27th pick.
  • Future HOFer Aaron Rodgers was drafted 24th.
  • Former ravens QB and SB MVP Joe Flacco was drafted 18th.
  • Even Pat Mahomes was drafted 10th.
The Cowboys almost never draft a QB. History shows it’s a foolish practice.
 

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The last time the Cowboys tried to trade up and draft a QB in the first round their target was Paxton Lynch. God help us.
Yikes!

If you draft a QB, gotta look later rounds. Developmental project at this point. Big step up from Rush. Too much need that will get addressed in the earlier rounds, considering Dak is locked in here for at least 2 years.
 

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I was going to do this as a poll, but I can't seem to find that function anymore, so I'll just do it as a post.

The question: What is the best way to draft a quarterback for this team?

A) Stay put at our #26, draft the best prospect in the first round.
B) Trade up as far as possible, even to #1 if you can, and draft one in the first round.
C) Draft one in the second round.
D) Draft one in the third round or later.
E) Sign a rookie free agent.
F) Other

This is unrelated to the possibility of bringing in a stop-gap free agent. You could do that, and still also do any of the above.
realistically, we have to pay a king's ransom to move up to #1 or top 5. I don't know about this year's draft as much yet as I haven't looked much into it. but I don't think there are any QBs even close to sure bets and we will have 10s or 100s of fans on this board swear by this one and swear by that one and bet everything, etc. we have to get extremley lucky to have one like Rodgers or Marino, etc. drop. with that said, that's the crystal ball. those players dropped because they had question marks and people were dimissing them. only now everybody is an expert after the fact.

am I saying don't draft one? if you have faith in one dropping then take them, but we wanted Lynch really bad and Jerry regretted not drafting him. or you invest in 2nd round IMHO, because a lot of good ones, with small flaws drop into 2nd and they have the talent to be groomed over a couple of years (Love, Hurts, etc.).

but time is now. then we know where we are in couple of years. and then rinse, repeat if needed. its a cycle most teams have to go through.
 

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It's crazy how this franchise won't even consider drafting a QB in the early rounds. Packers drafted Rodgers when they had Favre, then drafted Love when they had Rodgers. The Patriots drafted Garrapollo when they had Brady. The 49ers drafted Lance after Garrapollo had led them to a Superbowl appearance and another championship game, but Dak gets no pressure put on him?


I was just going to make a post on this, they insulted Rodgers by getting love early. Why can't we do this to Dak?? Love isn't doing anything but hey just let it be known
 

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We are stuck with Dak. If we do draft a QB, it would probably be a later round project. Dak is our starter in 2023.
You can absolutely draft a qb high this year. Need to stop being cheap on the most important position on the team. Dak has two years left on his contract so we aren’t stuck with him after 2023.
 

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realistically, we have to pay a king's ransom to move up to #1 or top 5. I don't know about this year's draft as much yet as I haven't looked much into it. but I don't think there are any QBs even close to sure bets and we will have 10s or 100s of fans on this board swear by this one and swear by that one and bet everything, etc. we have to get extremley lucky to have one like Rodgers or Marino, etc. drop. with that said, that's the crystal ball. those players dropped because they had question marks and people were dimissing them. only now everybody is an expert after the fact.

am I saying don't draft one? if you have faith in one dropping then take them, but we wanted Lynch really bad and Jerry regretted not drafting him. or you invest in 2nd round IMHO, because a lot of good ones, with small flaws drop into 2nd and they have the talent to be groomed over a couple of years (Love, Hurts, etc.).

but time is now. then we know where we are in couple of years. and then rinse, repeat if needed. its a cycle most teams have to go through.
I remember wanting Lynch. He looked really good in college. It makes me wonder how much of a QB succeeding has to do with his innate abilities that he comes in with, and how much is how well the team develops him? The Broncos got Lynch, and they're not exactly a model organization right now. When we brought Dak in, we gave him that stellar O-line and an elite running game, since Zeke was top notch back then. It makes me wonder if Lynch would have also looked really good in that system, and everyone would be saying what a genius Jones was for trading back into the First to get him.

It makes me wonder if that 2016 team we had made us overestimate Dak's abilities. He had the best rookie season at the time that I've ever seen. Maybe we figured based on that, he could develop into a guy who can do it all, when in reality, he was always a backup-level QB who can do well if you give him a great running game, protect him well, and limit his role.
 

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I was going to do this as a poll, but I can't seem to find that function anymore, so I'll just do it as a post.

The question: What is the best way to draft a quarterback for this team?

A) Stay put at our #26, draft the best prospect in the first round.
B) Trade up as far as possible, even to #1 if you can, and draft one in the first round.
C) Draft one in the second round.
D) Draft one in the third round or later.
E) Sign a rookie free agent.
F) Other

This is unrelated to the possibility of bringing in a stop-gap free agent. You could do that, and still also do any of the above.
Just draft or sign a rookie UFA and talk him up good if he shows ANYTHING

Might light a fire under the Dakster.
 

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You do not need to draft 1 in round 1. Just don't ask them to be mahomes either.
 

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30 of the SB have been won by a 1st rnd pick
40 have been won by a first 3 round pick
Taking a flyer on a guy in the middle or late rounds is fine but the odds of even getting a solid starter is much lower than some seem to think
 

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You need to draft a QB regardless because Dak has been injured a lot lately.
 

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The best way is cut ties with your qb you are paying money to, is to make sure there is no dead cap $$ hit. Move on either to a draft pick or journeyman qb before drafting a blue chip prospect. The reason the eagles recovered from wentz so quickly is all his money was off the books, when they moved to jalen hurts. Unlike our situation where we had to eat $22m in dead cap $$ spread over 2 years from romos awful contract.
 

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I have ZERO faith in this franchise drafting a new punching bag. They just never do it. They've tried to move up and can never get it done. We lucked into Romo and Prescott.
 
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