Better pass rushing prospect?

[TXCowboyVol]

When they were coming out between Myles Garrett and Jadaveon Clowney? Discuss...

 

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When they were coming out between Myles Garrett and Jadaveon Clowney? Discuss...

To me - Better Prospect = Clowney; Better Pass Rusher Coming Out = Garrett.

As college players, we're splitting hairs here because we're talking about two guys that are the best prospects since the 2011 edge rusher class (and probably would have both been top 10 picks even in that draft). In other words, if you got to create a DE/Edge Rusher, you'd probably spit out these two guys. I think ultimately Clowney (a bit bigger, just as fast) probably was the better prospect, but from what I've seen from Garrett, he's already a more polished pass rusher and relies on more than just his athleticism (which is still in the freak category). If I had a top 5 pick and they were both there, I'd flip a coin and be okay with it.

 

[jordan4vols]

Garrett can't hold Clowneys jock strap. He can't even hold Derek Barnetts in the same league same year. Garrett has made a living off racking up sacks against scrub teams and doing nothing against SEC competition.

Some stats

Garrett vs SEC opponents (career): 12 sacks 23.5 TFL (22 games)

vs Ranked opponents (career): 6 sacks 14.5 TFL (10 games)


Barnett vs SEC opponents (career): 29 sacks 42.5 TFL (24 games)

vs ranked opponents (career): 10 sacks 19.5 TFL (10 games)

Barnett ended up breaking Reggie White's record for sacks in only 3 years.

Mark this post. Barnett will have a more productive pro career

 

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Garrett can't hold Clowneys jock strap. He can't even hold Derek Barnetts in the same league same year. Garrett has made a living off racking up sacks against scrub teams and doing nothing against SEC competition.

Some stats

Garrett vs SEC opponents (career): 12 sacks 23.5 TFL (22 games)

vs Ranked opponents (career): 6 sacks 14.5 TFL (10 games)


Barnett vs SEC opponents (career): 29 sacks 42.5 TFL (24 games)

vs ranked opponents (career): 10 sacks 19.5 TFL (10 games)

Barnett ended up breaking Reggie White's record for sacks in only 3 years.

Mark this post. Barnett will have a more productive pro career

Those are some eye-opening stats for sure, thanks for sharing. I knew Barnett was good, but hot dang.

Re: the OP and Garrett though, I'd say he's unquestionably the better athlete and by all accounts, prospect compared to Barnett (not saying he's going to be better as you've pointed out, just that he has the traits that teams covet in their pass rushers in spades). Also, his stats as referenced above were better against Ranked opponents than just conference play which would be a credit to him, and if I'm not mistaken, he was limited this year a bit with an ankle injury. I still agree, as I mentioned, that Clowney was the better prospect coming out.

 

[jordan4vols]

Those are some eye-opening stats for sure, thanks for sharing. I knew Barnett was good, but hot dang.

Re: the OP and Garrett though, I'd say he's unquestionably the better athlete and by all accounts, prospect compared to Barnett (not saying he's going to be better as you've pointed out, just that he has the traits that teams covet in their pass rushers in spades). Also, his stats as referenced above were better against Ranked opponents than just conference play which would be a credit to him, and if I'm not mistaken, he was limited this year a bit with an ankle injury. I still agree, as I mentioned, that Clowney was the better prospect coming out.

Barnetts were better against ranked opponents. Let me clarify I don't think Garrett is going to be bad, I just think Barnett is going to be better

 

[WeaponX]

Barnetts were better against ranked opponents. Let me clarify I don't think Garrett is going to be bad, I just think Barnett is going to be better

Can't argue against performance man, and Barnett definitely produced! Unfortunately we're not even going to be able to sniff him barring us giving the farm away.

 

[jordan4vols]

Can't argue against performance man, and Barnett definitely produced! Unfortunately we're not even going to be able to sniff him barring us giving the farm away.

Agreed