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silverbear;2598072 said:
I base my opinion on more than just his measurables... I have seen a number of different draft websites that mentioned that he has the cover skills to make the move to safety... for example, NFL Draft Scout says this about him:



Scouting reports like this are what got me to thinking he could move to strong safety, a la Woodson...

I'm not trying to diss, it's just that Casillas always looked like a LB to me. That could be more because of his ability to attack the LOS more than any lack of range or coverage ability, certainly.

It's more of a fear of fixing something that isn't broke than a doubt of his ability to translate to safety, I guess. I've seen one work really, really well, and I've not seen the other at all, you know?
 

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Biggems;2593339 said:
Ok now I do not know how realistic this is, since some of these players seem to be soaring up the board. So here it goes.......With one of our 5ths, we traded down a few spots and added a 6th

2 - CB/S Sean Smith Utah - 6'3 215
I really hope he is still there when we draft. I have seen him in the first on a few mocks. I think he can be our future FS.....we just need him to fall to us at 52.

3 - OLB Clay Matthews USC - 6'3 240
I am not a huge fan of Trojan LBs. However, this kid can play. He is a 3rd generation NFLer. I know his dad and uncle are in the HOF, not sure if his grandfather is. However, those are some darn good genetics.

4 - SS Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin - 6'2 225
Silver Bear has warmed me up to this pick. He keeps comparing him to Darren Woodson. I have read up on the guy and he is fast, hits, and tackles. He has to be better than any SS we currently have on the team.

4 - DE Roy Miller Texas - 6'1 300
He played DT in college, and could even play it for the Cowboys. However, I move him to DE opposite Ratliff. I think he would wreak havoc on the end. He would open things up for our OLBs to rush the passer.

5 - CB Joe Burnett UCF - 5'11 185
I am not sure if he lasts till the 5th round, but I hope so. He is a ballhawking CB. We need playmakers in the secondary and he is definitely one.

5 - ILB Jasper Brinkley USC - 6'2 270
I am hoping he drops this far. I am not a big fan of his, but the kid can ball. He is a tackling machine, something the interior of our defense is sorely lacking.

5 - WR Jarrett Dillard Rice - 5'11 185
He is a touchdown machine. He is fast, quick, acrobatic, and will go after any ball....usually coming down with it, especially in the end zone. I want Quan Cosby, but Dillard is 3 years younger. I want Deon Butler, but Dillard is a proven commodity.

6 - DT Sammie Lee Hill Stillman - 6'3 330
He may go higher, but I am hoping that the small school thing holds him back. I think he is going to be a steal. He is a high character guy and plays like a beast.

6 - OLB Lawrence Sidbury Richmond - 6'4 265
You want smart.....this guy is one of the smartest guys in the draft. While at Richmond, he designed a computer program that his team used to calculate opponent defensive tendencies. The kid can get to the QB too.

6 - QB Mike Reilly Central Washington - 6'3 215
I have been on his bandwagon for a very long time. Since Colt is going back to UT, Reilly is my guy.

7 - OT Ryan Delrosal Dixie St. - 6'5 313
Big, athletic, agile....and can play both Tackle positions

7 - OG George Bussey Louisville - 6'2 306
Plays with a mean streak. A very good run blocker. Can get out and pull. Played OT in college, but most likely will be an OG in the NFL. His versatility is an asset.

7 - OL Dallas Reynolds BYU - 6'5 330
Can play all 5 OL positions. This type of versatility is valuable from your backups.


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Biggems;2598619 said:
Wasnt Troy P. a LB at USC?

Nope.

Remember how folks used to argue that he was a worse S than Roy? Boy, those were the days.
 

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irvin4evs;2598816 said:
I'm not trying to diss,

Never thought you were, irvin... this is a cordial disagreement...

it's just that Casillas always looked like a LB to me. That could be more because of his ability to attack the LOS more than any lack of range or coverage ability, certainly.

It's more of a fear of fixing something that isn't broke than a doubt of his ability to translate to safety, I guess. I've seen one work really, really well, and I've not seen the other at all, you know?

Well, if you think about it, you're also advocating a change in Casillas' basic style, you want him to bulk up 20 pounds... but what if he can't bulk up without losing the speed that makes him special??

At 220 pounds, he's plenty fast enough to play strong safety, and has the size you want at that position... but will he just be an ordinary talent at 240, if he starts running 4.6 40s??

Some folks can bulk up without losing their speed, some can't, so basically we're both doing a bit of projecting...

But again, it's all good, to me this is a friendly discussion... feel free to disagree (if you don't have a problem with being wrong, LOL)...
 

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silverbear;2599142 said:
Never thought you were, irvin... this is a cordial disagreement...



Well, if you think about it, you're also advocating a change in Casillas' basic style, you want him to bulk up 20 pounds... but what if he can't bulk up without losing the speed that makes him special??

At 220 pounds, he's plenty fast enough to play strong safety, and has the size you want at that position... but will he just be an ordinary talent at 240, if he starts running 4.6 40s??

Some folks can bulk up without losing their speed, some can't, so basically we're both doing a bit of projecting...

But again, it's all good, to me this is a friendly discussion... feel free to disagree (if you don't have a problem with being wrong, LOL)...


Well, Donnie Edwards was about the same size and played LB.....maybe Casillas can do the same. I think he gives us the versatility to have a LB/S hybrid to mask some of what we are doing out there on the field at times.
 

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Chris in SoCal;2597798 said:
Carnell Lake, John Lynch, Pat Tillman..


What do those 3 and Woodson have in common besides the college linebacker/nfl safety transition ?

nothing, because none of them were anywhere near as good as Woodson
 

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Chris in SoCal;2597948 said:
I'm a huge Woodson fan but Lynch and Lake were pretty darn good players. Tillman was on his way to being one as well.

not even remotely close to the same class as Woodson, especially in coverage
 

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had the Roy trade not happened, we could add a 1, 3, 6 and subtract a 7. I would have then traded down about 5-7 picks in the 1st and added a 2nd

1-WR Percy Harvin (game breaker)
2-FS Sean Smith
2-OLB Clay Matthews
3-C Eric Wood
3-WR Brian Robiskie (possession guy)
4-SS Jonathan Casillas
4-DL Roy Miller
5-CB Joe Burnett
5-ILB Jasper Brinkley
5c-DT Sammie Lee Hill
6-CB Mark Parson
6-OLB Laurence Sidbury
6-QB Mike Reilly
7-OG George Bussey
7c-OL Dallas Reynolds

QB - 1
WR - 2
OL - 3
DL - 2
LB - 3
CB - 2
S - 2

UDFA......
OT Ryan Delrosal
OT Sean Sester


IMO, this draft would have been so sweet............but alas.....it will never happen. it is still fun to contemplate the possibilities of what might have been.
 

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Biggems;2599713 said:
had the Roy trade not happened, we could add a 1, 3, 6 and subtract a 7. I would have then traded down about 5-7 picks in the 1st and added a 2nd

1-WR Percy Harvin (game breaker)
2-FS Sean Smith
2-OLB Clay Matthews
3-C Eric Wood
3-WR Brian Robiskie (possession guy)
4-SS Jonathan Casillas
4-DL Roy Miller
5-CB Joe Burnett
5-ILB Jasper Brinkley
5c-DT Sammie Lee Hill
6-CB Mark Parson
6-OLB Laurence Sidbury
6-QB Mike Reilly
7-OG George Bussey
7c-OL Dallas Reynolds

QB - 1
WR - 2
OL - 3
DL - 2
LB - 3
CB - 2
S - 2

UDFA......
OT Ryan Delrosal
OT Sean Sester


IMO, this draft would have been so sweet............but alas.....it will never happen. it is still fun to contemplate the possibilities of what might have been.

Even if we hadn't traded for Roy, we'd never draft this many players. Probably 5 of them would make the roster, if that.

At the end of the day this year, I won't be surprised if we end up with 6-7 players and of those, maybe 5 make the roster.

If we let more FA's leave than usual, then maybe we keep more.
 

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TheCount;2600085 said:
Even if we hadn't traded for Roy, we'd never draft this many players. Probably 5 of them would make the roster, if that.

At the end of the day this year, I won't be surprised if we end up with 6-7 players and of those, maybe 5 make the roster.

If we let more FA's leave than usual, then maybe we keep more.


Well I see more that 5-7 making the roster...these players would most likely be gone

QB - Johnson, Bartel
FB - Cricket
WR - Hurd
TE - Curtis
OL - Procter, Berger, McQuistan
DT - Tank
DE - ?
LB - Thomas, Rogers, Carpenter, Ellis, Octavien
CB - Henry, PacMan, Ball
S - Watkins, Brown, Battle
P - Sam P

as far as FA goes.....the only FA I would even care to go after, besides our own would be FB Lorenzo Neal. Then we can run a blue collar, hardnosed power running game with Barber and Choice...and let Felix be our homerun threat.

BTW, think about how fun our offense would have been with Felix and Percy on the field at the same time.
 

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Overall, by far the best mock I've seen.

2 - CB/S Sean Smith Utah - 6'3 215
I LOVE this pick but I'm afraid it will take a Jason Witten-type steal to land him with our pick without a trade up. On my draft board here would also be OT Phil Loadholt, OG Duke Robinson and possibly FS Delmas

3 - OLB Clay Matthews USC - 6'3 240
Like this pick, also on my draft board here would be OL Herman Johnson, I would also consider WR Brian Robiskie


4 - SS Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin - 6'2 225
I'd be okay with this pick but combined with Sean Smith, we'd be forced to cut/trade someone significant i.e. RW or Henry I think if for no other reason than the money involved.
On my board here is also: WR Brian Robiskie, QB Rhett Bomar, LB Zac Follett (sp?) and the DT from LSU with the french name

4 - DE Roy Miller Texas - 6'1 300
I would prefer to go with a WR, QB, LB, or OL with this pick depending on who's available.

5 - CB Joe Burnett UCF - 5'11 185
Ditto as entry above but we'll need one more CB from this draft, esp if he can return kicks. Can this guy?

5 - ILB Jasper Brinkley USC - 6'2 270
I love this pick, might be a reach to expect him to fall this far IMO.

5 - WR Jarrett Dillard Rice - 5'11 185
I LOVE this pick. We need a speedy guy. Sorry but Miles Austin doesn't do it for me. Dillard could turn out to be a gamer like guy Green Bay got a few years ago. Some guys just make plays.

6 - DT Sammie Lee Hill Stillman - 6'3 330
I LOVE this pick but we may have to use a fourth or fifth to get him and frankly, he'd be near the top of my list in those rounds too. We need this guy IMO.

6 - OLB Lawrence Sidbury Richmond - 6'4 265
don't know much about this guy but we probably need two LBs in this draft.

6 - QB Mike Reilly Central Washington - 6'3 215
I LOVE this pick, esp if we don't get Bomar earlier, and frankly if we do it might not be a bad idea either. We could use two QBs, although one of them probably needs to have some experience...although second thought I guess it didn't matter much for Flacco.

7 - OT Ryan Delrosal Dixie St. - 6'5 313
Have to take your word for it, don't know much about him but he sounds nice.

7 - OG George Bussey Louisville - 6'2 306
ditto as above

7 - OL Dallas Reynolds BYU - 6'5 330
ditto as above

Overall, I think getting one dynamic gamer like Sean Smith, at least one LB that can contribute right away, a backup QB, a legit OL, and a NT, it will be a success. That's only 5 players with 9 picks not too much to ask lol, I hope JJ can do it however my faith is not strong.
 

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If we could get Sean Smith and Clay Matthews in the draft I will buy everyone here drinks:toast2:
 

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Overall, by far the best mock I've seen.

2 - CB/S Sean Smith Utah - 6'3 215
I LOVE this pick but I'm afraid it will take a Jason Witten-type steal to land him with our pick without a trade up. On my draft board here would also be OT Phil Loadholt, OG Duke Robinson and possibly FS Delmas
Well like I stated in my original post.....he wont be around. He was a nobody, cause Utah is never really on TV, until late in the season and then he showed on the field that he is a legit 1st round prospect, but could slip into the early 2nd.

3 - OLB Clay Matthews USC - 6'3 240
Like this pick, also on my draft board here would be OL Herman Johnson, I would also consider WR Brian Robiskie
He won't be there in the 3rd.....but if he is, I will be completely stoked. I see him possibly getting picked even before we come up in the 2nd.

4 - SS Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin - 6'2 225
I'd be okay with this pick but combined with Sean Smith, we'd be forced to cut/trade someone significant i.e. RW or Henry I think if for no other reason than the money involved.
On my board here is also: WR Brian Robiskie, QB Rhett Bomar, LB Zac Follett (sp?) and the DT from LSU with the french name
Right now we have Hamlin, Roy, Davis, Watkins, Brown, and Battle. I dont see us keeping Battle. Brown and Watkins are definitely expendable. That would make our Safety depth: Hamlin, Roy, Davis, Smith, Casillas...

4 - DE Roy Miller Texas - 6'1 300
I would prefer to go with a WR, QB, LB, or OL with this pick depending on who's available.
Roy is a stud....He is a rock in the middle of the DL. He is very good against the run, can play sideline to sideline, and will apply moderate pressure in the backfield. He may not be the biggest DT around, but he is one of the strongest. BTW, this is my one homer pick

5 - CB Joe Burnett UCF - 5'11 185
Ditto as entry above but we'll need one more CB from this draft, esp if he can return kicks. Can this guy?
Yes he can return kicks. However, with Jones, Austin, Stanback, and Dillard....we have enough KRs. BTW, Burnett is an interception machine. Smith can play CB or S. We also have Newman, Henry, Scandrick, Jenkins, and Ball.

5 - ILB Jasper Brinkley USC - 6'2 270
I love this pick, might be a reach to expect him to fall this far IMO.
Yea, I have serious doubts that he lasts this long, and I am not really a fan of his. However, we need an ILB. This guy is a tackling machine. I am banking on him being completely healthy, but other teams fearing that he isnt.

5 - WR Jarrett Dillard Rice - 5'11 185
I LOVE this pick. We need a speedy guy. Sorry but Miles Austin doesn't do it for me. Dillard could turn out to be a gamer like guy Green Bay got a few years ago. Some guys just make plays.
I still cant decide between Dillard, Cosby, or Butler. The biggest reason I picked Dillard was because of his ability to completely sell out for the catch, especially in the end zone. I mean this guy is the Chris Carter of college....all he does is catch TDs.

6 - DT Sammie Lee Hill Stillman - 6'3 330
I LOVE this pick but we may have to use a fourth or fifth to get him and frankly, he'd be near the top of my list in those rounds too. We need this guy IMO.
No way in Hades he lasts this long....my mock is wishful thinking. His size, speed, and play are only part of his game. He is also intelligent, mature, well spoken, displays great character, and he gets IT.....yep, I would be surprised if he is still on the board after the 4th round.

6 - OLB Lawrence Sidbury Richmond - 6'4 265
don't know much about this guy but we probably need two LBs in this draft.
He is limited athletically....but he is a perfect guy if you want a passrushing specialist. He is very intelligent. You can read up about the computer program he designed to read defensive tendencies.


6 - QB Mike Reilly Central Washington - 6'3 215
I LOVE this pick, esp if we don't get Bomar earlier, and frankly if we do it might not be a bad idea either. We could use two QBs, although one of them probably needs to have some experience...although second thought I guess it didn't matter much for Flacco.
I really like Reilly, however, I wouldnt be upset if we signed one of the young vet FAs instead. I really want Colt McCoy in Dallas. I am willing to wait a year for him.

7 - OT Ryan Delrosal Dixie St. - 6'5 313
Have to take your word for it, don't know much about him but he sounds nice.

7 - OG George Bussey Louisville - 6'2 306
ditto as above

7 - OL Dallas Reynolds BYU - 6'5 330
ditto as above

Overall, I think getting one dynamic gamer like Sean Smith, at least one LB that can contribute right away, a backup QB, a legit OL, and a NT, it will be a success. That's only 5 players with 9 picks not too much to ask lol, I hope JJ can do it however my faith is not strong.
From past experience...we almost never draft anyone in my mocks.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2597289 said:
I like it i'm a huge fan of Jarrett Dillard he put a massive numbers up at Rice. It's really crazy and he doesn't get talked about at all.

He reminds me alot of Earl Bennett, who the bears drafted last year. He'll be a solid guy, but probably never be a #1
 

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I like it ok. These team slot only drafts are tough because we don't see who is projected to go earlier or later. I realize that you can't post 7-10 full rounds of picks, just saying....
 
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