Biggest Mistake in Dallas Cowboys History Sent Packing

[silverbear]

Biggest mistake in Cowboys History IMO.

Problem is, you're never right about anything...

 

[Randy White]

By Ryan J Lawrence

http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...mistake_in_dallas_cowboys_history.html?cat=14

Dallas Cuts a Player They Should Have Never Chosen

Cowboys fans are still haunted by a dream of opposing defenses trying to figure out ways to stop an offense featuring Aikman, Smith, Irvin and Moss. A dream that never came because of the biggest mistake in Dallas Cowboys History.

 

[Randy White]

if this moron writer thinks thats the biggest mistake he just hasnt been watching the Cowboys long enough.....

I have.

And no other move ( in this case: non-move ) in the history of the franchise has been THE basic cause of the many mistakes that followed it. Many mistakes that were committed in order to make up for that one.

 

[Biggems]

drafting Crapenter is one of the top 5 worst draft moves that I have witnessed by the Cowboys....I really didnt start following the draft until 88 or 89.....so that is only about a 20 year span.

trading 2 first rounders for Gallowaste is also in the top 5, IMO.

I liked and defended Ellis for a long time....He was breaking out and becoming a dominant presence when he unfortunately broke his leg. After he came back, he became a flippin whiny brat. I liked his complete game on the field, while not flashy, he did his job against the run and the pass. However, I was ready to see him go, cause off the field he was an absolute drama queen.....he was the Veruca Salt of the Cowboys lockerroom.....DADDY (JERRY), I WANT IT NOW....

 

[Randy White]

Umm, am I the only one that remembers that Houston/Tennessee drafted Kevin Dyson, wide receiver, OVER RANDY MOSS???? .

You know what ? I'll say again what I said during that horrible day in 1998 to the same people who used that excuse:

Bull***.

I don't give one single damn about the other franchises. 16 franchises passed on Emmitt Smith in 1990. Does that mean the Cowboys should have passed on him as well ?

10 passed on Michael Irvin, the Cowboys ( along with the rest of the league ) passed on Roger Stauback 11 times, they passed on Romo 7 times. Does that mean they should have never been drafted or signed ?

Of course not.

You NEVER use the excuse of " well I didn't draft him because other teams weren't going to draft him either ". The minute any franchise starts living by that philosophy, is the minute that franchise starts it's descent into NFL purgatory, which is where the Cowboys ended up for almost 10 years after that huge mistake.

 

[Biggems]

You know what ? I'll say again what I said during that horrible day in 1998 to the same people who used that excuse:

Bull***.

I don't give one single damn about the other franchises. 16 franchises passed on Emmitt Smith in 1990. Does that mean the Cowboys should have passed on him as well ?

10 passed on Michael Irvin, the Cowboys ( along with the rest of the league ) passed on Roger Stauback 11 times, they passed on Romo 7 times. Does that mean they should have never been drafted or signed ?

Of course not.

You NEVER use the excuse of " well I didn't draft him because other teams weren't going to draft him either ". The minute any franchise starts living by that philosophy, is the minute that franchise starts it's descent into NFL purgatory, which is where the Cowboys ended up for almost 10 years after that huge mistake.

Seriously? You spelled his name wrong? are you kidding me? come on now.......To the chalkboard young man and write Roger Staubach 1000 times:laugh2:

 

[Randy White]

I wonder if anyone ever stopped to think about how the situation in Dallas probably would have been the worst place for a guy like Moss, who already had some drug things on his resume (Pot smoking was all I believe)..

Another myth.

Nobody, except Randy Moss on himself, can predict behavioral conduct of a, basically, sane person. Could Moss have probably fallen to temptation ? Maybe. Maybe not. We know he didn't ( at least officially ) in Minnesota, and please tell me that there's no pot in Minnesota.

Also, if I remember correctly, Jerrah, because of Michael Irvin, had already established a ( at the time ) unique program within the organization to help deal with issues like this under the supervision of Calvin Hill. The program, I think, still exists today and Mr. Hill and his wife are in charge of it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I thought this thread was about Ellis and ah said to myself Dang, Ellis was utilitarian, a safe choice and for most of his career here he was a fine citizen and was a sack leader. But for the past 4 years he has been a sissified aging and insecure player.
Quincy sucks.
Now Ellis sucks too.

 

[Randy White]

Seriously? You spelled his name wrong? are you kidding me? come on now.......To the chalkboard young man and write Roger Staubach 1000 times:laugh2:

Damn... Please shoot me...

Now !

I'm hammering my fingers right now.


:laugh2:

 

[Alexander]

Another myth.

Nobody, except Randy Moss on himself, can predict behavioral conduct of a, basically, sane person. Could Moss have probably fallen to temptation ? Maybe. Maybe not. We know he didn't ( at least officially ) in Minnesota, and please tell me that there's no pot in Minnesota.

Moss had Anthony Carter to mentor him in Minnesota. He would have had nothing close to that type of true support system in Dallas. He credits Carter with a lot and it is no coincidence that when Carter retired, Moss went downhill in Minnesota. Oakland he was unchecked. In New England, every player buys into the system or they are gone and instead of one person, he has an entire team and organization holding his feet to the fire.

Also, if I remember correctly, Jerrah, because of Michael Irvin, had already established a ( at the time ) unique program within the organization to help deal with issues like this under the supervision of Calvin Hill. The program, I think, still exists today and Mr. Hill and his wife are in charge of it.

That is correct. He was hired in May of 1997.

 

[Future]

Randy Moss has gone on to catch 843 passes for 13,201 yards and 135 touchdowns, with NO RING....hhmmm.

Greg Ellis has 504 tackles, 77 sacks and 4 interceptions...and no playoff wins.

 

[Hostile]

Moss had Anthony Carter to mentor him in Minnesota. He would have had nothing close to that type of true support system in Dallas. He credits Carter with a lot and it is no coincidence that when Carter retired, Moss went downhill in Minnesota. Oakland he was unchecked. In New England, every player buys into the system or they are gone and instead of one person, he has an entire team and organization holding his feet to the fire.



That is correct. He was hired in May of 1997.

Cris Carter.

 

[Bleu Star]

By Ryan J Lawrence

http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...mistake_in_dallas_cowboys_history.html?cat=14

Dallas Cuts a Player They Should Have Never Chosen

Cowboys owner/general manager Jerry Jones has made his share of colossal blunders in his efforts at talent acquisition over the years. From the head-scratching selection of Georgia quarterback Quincy Carter in the 2001 NFL Draft - a selection that confused many NFL scouts who had the player pegged as a fourth or fifth round pick - to more recently, his signing of problem-child cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, the Cowboys' head boss has looked the fool more than once. However, his biggest player personnel mistake tops those two examples by leaps and bounds, and it may very well be the worst error in Dallas Cowboys history. Thankfully, that particular blunder made its way out of Valley Ranch on Tuesday. However, for many, the bad feelings still linger.

In 1998, the Dallas Cowboys were coming off of a disappointing 6-10 season, but there was reason for optimism. After all, the team had won the Super Bowl only two years prior, when they amassed one of the most statistically impressive seasons in the history of the Dallas Cowboys organization. And, the team still had future hall of famers, quarterback, Troy Aikman, wide receiver, Michael Irvin and running back, Emmitt Smith. With the addition of a new head coach and a high first-round draft pick, the Cowboys were poised for a rebound and a run at another title. Adding to the equation was the potential that the team might be lucky enough to see the star receiver from Marshall University fall into their proverbial lap at pick eight of the NFL Draft.

That receiver was future Pro-Bowler Randy Moss who at the time held a less than stellar reputation for poor character. An assortment of off-field incidents did, in fact, lead to the receiver being passed over by the first seven teams in the 1998 draft. Many NFL analysts had foreseen this and had predicted the Cowboys to select Moss and add him to an offense that would have potentially featured four hall of fame skilled position players. However, when it came time for Jerry Jones to pull the trigger on Moss, he opted instead to go with a defensive end from North Carolina named Greg Ellis.

The rest is history. Randy Moss has gone on to catch 843 passes for 13,201 yards and 135 touchdowns, while eleven years later, Dallas has yet to win another playoff game. Greg Ellis, whom the Cowboys chose instead of Moss, was cut on Tuesday, June 3. Though, Ellis did have a somewhat solid - if unspectacular - career at Dallas, he did little to alleviate the bad feelings over Jones' decision to pass on Moss.

Cowboys fans are still haunted by a dream of opposing defenses trying to figure out ways to stop an offense featuring Aikman, Smith, Irvin and Moss. A dream that never came because of the biggest mistake in Dallas Cowboys History.

Contributing sources:

http://www.nfl.com/players/randymoss/profile?id=MOS699912

Here I was clicking this thread with a smile expecting to see the focus squarely on Barbie Carpenter...

 

[NextGenBoys]

So I guess it was a horrible mistake for the Rams to select Grant Wistrom or for the Ravens to take Duane Starks, or... well you get the idea.

Mediots! :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

Well both of those players were key contributors to their team's getting a ring.

Irvin/Moss on the outside would have been nice for us, and may have prolonged Aikman's career.

Moss would've been traded/cut once we hit the Campo era anyway, so its not like he would've been a career Cowboy. 4-5 years max.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Randy Moss has gone on to catch 843 passes for 13,201 yards and 135 touchdowns, with NO RING....hhmmm.

But he played on the best football team I've ever seen in the 2007 Patriots. If that team plays the Giants 100 times, they would've won 95 times.

Thats how it works, its a funny league. Trent Dilfer has a ring and Dan Marino doesn't.

I know thats how we measure success, but I'll never think Terry Bradshaw was a 'great' QB - even though he won 4 rings. Some players just get put in better situations than others.

Moss hangs out in NE long enough and he'll get one.

 

[Chief]

But he played on the best football team I've ever seen in the 2007 Patriots. If that team plays the Giants 100 times, they would've won 95 times.

Thats how it works, its a funny league. Trent Dilfer has a ring and Dan Marino doesn't.

I know thats how we measure success, but I'll never think Terry Bradshaw was a 'great' QB - even though he won 4 rings. Some players just get put in better situations than others.

Moss hangs out in NE long enough and he'll get one.

Very true.

 

[silver]

I know thats how we measure success, but I'll never think Terry Bradshaw was a 'great' QB - even though he won 4 rings. Some players just get put in better situations than others.

Ask Mark Washington, Benny Barnes, Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters about Bradshaw.

 

[Manster68]

I wonder if anyone ever stopped to think about how the situation in Dallas probably would have been the worst place for a guy like Moss, who already had some drug things on his resume (Pot smoking was all I believe). Going to Minny, and being mentored by Carter, I think was the best thing for him to be the reciever he's been because it no doubt helped to keep Moss out of more off the field trouble than he did get into.

You bring him to Dallas, to be around Irvin off the field, and Moss probably wouldn't have lasted 3 or 4 years in the league before stupid off the field things got him in serious trouble.

And could you imagine the evil media ripping the Cowboys had Moss been selected? If you think the media tortured Carrie Prejean the last couple of weeks, that is nothing compared to what would have happened in the Sports media if Moss would have been a Cowboy!