Biggest mistake was Franchising Spencer

[joseephuss]

Said it at the time. For about the same money seattle signed Avril and Bennett

They only got Bennett for one year and he isn't even a starter. The situation would have been different in Dallas. He would have been the starter and I think he is more effective as a rotation guy coming off the bench. People would be complaining that he isn't consistent enough if he were in Dallas. And if the Cowboys could have only signed him to 1 year as Seattle did, then that doesn't really help matters now.

 

[OhSnap]

Everything they do is a big mistake. Stadium too big, players over paid, talk too much, hire too many coaches, fire too many coaches, draft the wrong guys, don't draft the right guys, call the wrong plays, can't host the super bowl with the proper number of nose bleed seats, sell ladies underwear, make contracts too big in an uncapped season, get sued cause a woman burnt her butt on the seats outside the stadium, keep old players too long, sign young players too soon, trade up when they should trade down and trade down when they should stay put, give too much when they trade up and dont get enough when they trade down then reach down to make the pick and then let the good players leave and franchise the wrong ones. It's pretty bad.

 

[ShiningStar]

Seriously??

yes, its called an opinion, ive had some and ive been right on some and ive been wrong on some. Sorry if i dont get excited over every draft pick. Yes, im so impressed by a WR who catches the ball. Hes a stud, my mistake. Sorry, hes not winning me over, im not as easily won over as many on here.

 

[bsheeern]

yes, its called an opinion, ive had some and ive been right on some and ive been wrong on some. Sorry if i dont get excited over every draft pick. Yes, im so impressed by a WR who catches the ball. Hes a stud, my mistake. Sorry, hes not winning me over, im not as easily won over as many on here.

Yds/Reception
1.Kenny Stills · NOR20.0
2.Josh Gordon*+ · CLE18.9
3.Riley Cooper · PHI17.8
Calvin Johnson*+ · DET17.8
5.Torrey Smith · BAL17.4
6.Chris Givens · STL16.7
Terrance Williams · DAL16.7
8.Vernon Davis* · SFO16.3
9.DeSean Jackson* · PHI16.2
10.Michael Floyd · ARI16.0
Hakeem Nicks · NYG16.0
Alshon Jeffery* · CHI


Longest Reception
1.Josh Gordon*+ · CLE95
2.Michael Floyd · ARI91
3.Calvin Johnson*+ · DET87
4.Tiquan Underwood · TAM85
5.James Jones · GNB83
6.A.J. Green* · CIN82
Terrance Williams · DAL82
8.Tavon Austin · STL81
Aaron Dobson · NWE81
Julio Jones · ATL

 

[ShiningStar]

Yds/Reception
1.Kenny Stills · NOR20.0
2.Josh Gordon*+ · CLE18.9
3.Riley Cooper · PHI17.8
Calvin Johnson*+ · DET17.8
5.Torrey Smith · BAL17.4
6.Chris Givens · STL16.7
Terrance Williams · DAL16.7
8.Vernon Davis* · SFO16.3
9.DeSean Jackson* · PHI16.2
10.Michael Floyd · ARI16.0
Hakeem Nicks · NYG16.0
Alshon Jeffery* · CHI


Longest Reception
1.Josh Gordon*+ · CLE95
2.Michael Floyd · ARI91
3.Calvin Johnson*+ · DET87
4.Tiquan Underwood · TAM85
5.James Jones · GNB83
6.A.J. Green* · CIN82
Terrance Williams · DAL82
8.Tavon Austin · STL81
Aaron Dobson · NWE81
Julio Jones · ATL

thats cute, if it showed everything, show me fumbles in an important game, show me bad routes, show me things that show the real story, show me bad routes and interception happened, show me things he didnt do well all teh time and it hurt us?

 

[bsheeern]

Yds/Reception
1.Kenny Stills · NOR20.0
2.Josh Gordon*+ · CLE18.9
3.Riley Cooper · PHI17.8
Calvin Johnson*+ · DET17.8
5.Torrey Smith · BAL17.4
6.Chris Givens · STL16.7
Terrance Williams · DAL16.7
8.Vernon Davis* · SFO16.3
9.DeSean Jackson* · PHI16.2
10.Michael Floyd · ARI16.0
Hakeem Nicks · NYG16.0
Alshon Jeffery* · CHI


Longest Reception
1.Josh Gordon*+ · CLE95
2.Michael Floyd · ARI91
3.Calvin Johnson*+ · DET87
4.Tiquan Underwood · TAM85
5.James Jones · GNB83
6.A.J. Green* · CIN82
Terrance Williams · DAL82
8.Tavon Austin · STL81
Aaron Dobson · NWE81
Julio Jones · ATL

That's the entire NFL. Look at him compared to his rookie counterparts.

Receiving Yards
1. Keenan Allen WR, San Diego Chargers - 1046
2. DeAndre Hopkins WR, Houston Texans - 802
3. Terrance Williams WR, Dallas Cowboys - 736
4. Kenny Stills WR, New Orleans Saints - 640
5. Tim Wright TE, Tampa Bay Bucs - 571
6. Robert Woods WR, Buffalo Bills - 548
8. Marlon Brown WR, Baltimore Ravens – 524
9. Aaron Dobson WR, New England Patriots - 519
10. Gio Bernard RB, Cincinnati Bengals – 514



Receptions
1. Keenan Allen WR, San Diego Chargers - 71
2. Gio Bernard RB, Cincinnati Bengals - 56
3. Tim Wright TE, Tampa Bay Bucs - 54
4. DeAndre Hopkins WR, Houston Texans - 52
5. Ace Sanders WR, Jacksonville Jaguars - 51
6. Marlon Brown WR, Baltimore Ravens – 49
7. Jordan Reed TE, Washington Commanders - 45
8. Leveon Bell RB, Pittsburgh Steelers – 45
9. Cordarrelle Patterson WR, Minnesota Vikings – 45
10. Terrance Williams WR, Dallas Cowboys – 44


Williams tied for second among rookies with 11 receiving plays of 20 yards or more.

 

[bsheeern]

thats cute, if it showed everything, show me fumbles in an important game, show me bad routes, show me things that show the real story, show me bad routes and interception happened, show me things he didnt do well all teh time and it hurt us?

He finished his rookie season with 44 receptions for 736 yards (16.7 average) and 5 receiving touchdowns. His totals ranked fourth for most receptions, most receiving yards and most receiving touchdowns by a rookie in franchise history.


Can't believe I'm even wasting my time with you......

 

[bsheeern]

He finished his rookie season with 44 receptions for 736 yards (16.7 average) and 5 receiving touchdowns. His totals ranked fourth for most receptions, most receiving yards and most receiving touchdowns by a rookie in franchise history.


Can't believe I'm even wasting my time with you......

Williams set a Cowboys' franchise record for rookies, with a touchdown in his 4th consecutive game.

 

[Alexander]

They only got Bennett for one year and he isn't even a starter. The situation would have been different in Dallas. He would have been the starter and I think he is more effective as a rotation guy coming off the bench. People would be complaining that he isn't consistent enough if he were in Dallas. And if the Cowboys could have only signed him to 1 year as Seattle did, then that doesn't really help matters now.

He is not a starter because of their rotation on the line. Much like how Chad Hennings was not a starter.

That is how a great DL is built. Granted he is not going to do the same kind of thing again given his success there this year, that is the philosophical approach that has to be taken. None of this evaluating whether the depth is good enough based on Kiffin saying he had to sit on the floor during a meeting because there were too many bodies in the room.

 

[cowboys1981]

Giving Ratliff that contract was. We're free of Spencer now financially.

 

[Alexander]

Giving Ratliff that contract was. We're free of Spencer now financially.

But we are still thinking about him, which is very troubling. We cannot even move on from a player coming off of microfracture surgery and just cost us about $20 million right of the top the last two years.

 

[bsheeern]

thats cute, if it showed everything, show me fumbles in an important game, show me bad routes, show me things that show the real story, show me bad routes and interception happened, show me things he didnt do well all teh time and it hurt us?

HE'S A ROOKIE! HELLLOOOO?????

What on Earth do you do on Sundays, because there is now way you watch Football.

The 1 game that you are most likely referring to where he fumbled on a last second dive towards the end zone to try and score against SD, He followed up with four receptions for 151 yards with one touchdown........

 

[cowboys1981]

But we are still thinking about him, which is very troubling. We cannot even move on from a player coming off of microfracture surgery and just cost us about $20 million right of the top the last two years.

The biggest mistake we'll make is bringing him back after that surgery.

 

[ShiningStar]

HE'S A ROOKIE! HELLLOOO?????

What on Earth do you do on Sundays, because there is now way you watch Football.

The 1 game that you are most likely referring to where he fumbled on a last second dive towards the end zone to try and score against SD, He followed up with four receptions for 151 yards with one touchdown........

Thats right...hrs a rookie......no reason to get excited...no need to Insult or assume. ...im sure the nfl hires you for your football knowledge. ...see. ....its an opinion. .u might think it a four letter word but I dont get excitedover one season.

Can u show me players who have one good year? Or is it totally fabricated. ....?

Sorry to ruin your day

 

[joseephuss]

He is not a starter because of their rotation on the line. Much like how Chad Hennings was not a starter.

That is how a great DL is built. Granted he is not going to do the same kind of thing again given his success there this year, that is the philosophical approach that has to be taken. None of this evaluating whether the depth is good enough based on Kiffin saying he had to sit on the floor during a meeting because there were too many bodies in the room.

Chad Hennings is a good example. He wasn't a starter because there were better options. He provided quality depth and was more effective as a back up. Bennett wouldn't be a back up in Dallas, he would be the starter. If you told me Dallas could get Bennett for quality depth because they also had a capable starter then I'm in. That would not have been the case. Bennett would have been the starter and he doesn't fill that role. They would still need quality depth behind him. You also still have the issue of signing him to a long term contract this year if he did have some success as the starter. He was cheap last year because his overall production in Tampa was rather lackluster.

 

[bsheeern]

Thats right...hrs a rookie......no reason to get excited...no need to Insult or assume. ...im sure the nfl hires you for your football knowledge. ...see. ....its an opinion. .u might think it a four letter word but I dont get excitedover one season.

Can u show me players who have one good year? Or is it totally fabricated. ....?

Sorry to ruin your day

Like I said, I shouldn't have even wasted my time. Smh

Great Post!

Ten minutes of my life I'll never get back.....

 

[ShiningStar]

Like I said, I shouldn't have even wasted my time. Smh

Great Post!

Ten minutes of my life I'll never get back.....

so you are excited over a rookie, have at it.

 

[rwalters31]

Not even in the same zip code as some of Jerry's biggest mistakes.

Amen brother!!

 

[Beast_from_East]

And it's not why you think. Wasting 10.6m in cap space was worse than signing him to a long term deal. If they had signed him to a 5/40m deal with 17m guaranteed they could have saved 5.6m on the cap last year and rolled it over to this year. He would only have 6m in dead money left after 2014, but would be under contract for 2014-2017.

Year Salary SB Cap Hit
2013 3m 2m 5m
2014 4m 2m 6m
2015 7m 2m 9m
2016 7m 2m 9m
2017 9m 2m 11m

It basically gives the team a "free" year in 2014 and plenty of options to keep him if he is still producing or dump him if he isn't. Obviously he would have had to agree to the deal and that may have been the sticking point. But this is more about the franchise tag in general. I think it is a terrible strategy when it the salary is that high. It removes any maneuverability and the player is still a FA after the season. Either work out a long term deal or let him walk. For 10.6m in cap space the Cowboys could have signed 3-4 FAs last year.

It applies to Hatcher this year. Franchising him would be the worst option. Either try to sign him a 4 or 5 year team friendly deal or let him walk.

No, the biggest mistake was thinking our "head coach in training" was going to improve upon back to back 500 seasons.

 

[bsheeern]

I like the rest...t Williams not really winning me over

I was merely responding to this about Terrence Williams.

so you are excited over a rookie, have at it.

We can debate the terms "winning me over "and "excited" which are all your words not mine. Like you said they are merely "opinions "

I just don't understand how He can't make a fan of the Cowboys feel good, happy, or "winning you over". Not only because of where we got him in the draft but also the Rookie season that he put up.

So I really must ask you, what would it take for a 3rd round rookie wide receiver to win you over?