Bill Cosby Officially Charged

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What an apologist post. Consensual? So you think all these women put themselves in these situations on purpose? No one can be that naïve.

When you've already had two "unconfortable" experiences with him and you willing go back for a 3rd, yeah you put your self in the situation. The current "victim" that Mr Cosby was indicted for assaulting did this and was that "naïve".
 

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It really looks bad for Bill but I will wait for all the facts to come out before passing final judgement. Even then I know true judgement comes from a much higher place than myself and anyone can be forgiven.
 

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It really looks bad for Bill but I will wait for all the facts to come out before passing final judgement. Even then I know true judgement comes from a much higher place than myself and anyone can be forgiven.

Those who see the world with childlike innocence can be.
 
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What ever happened to due proccess in this country, innocent until proven guilty. I'm not defending him but I do believe any of us deserves our day in court before having the public predetermine our fate. I'm not his judge so I'm not saying nothing bad about the man, I just know he is accused of some really despicable behavior.

in all fairness, he admitted, while under oath to purchasing Quaaludes for the purpose of giving them to women to have sex with them.
 

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Those who see the world with childlike innocence can be.

It goes much deeper than childlike innocence and I did not say I could forgive him but that he can be forgiven.. I speak from my religious beliefs. That is all I will say. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and mine are very deep. Please do not start a debate on this as I will not answer since it is against the rules.
 

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in all fairness, he admitted, while under oath to purchasing Quaaludes for the purpose of giving them to women to have sex with them.

That testimony is over 10 years old and never deemed incriminating enough to convict him... in all fairness.
 

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It goes much deeper than childlike innocence and I did not say I could forgive him but that he can be forgiven.. I speak from my religious beliefs. That is all I will say. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and mine are very deep. Please do not start a debate on this as I will not answer since it is against the rules.

You brought up the 'R' word. All I said is we are all born children. As adults, many people lose that innocence and their hearts harden. That was my point.
 

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That testimony is over 10 years old and never deemed incriminating enough to convict him... in all fairness.

I don't see why the age of the testimony is relevant to accuracy. Besides, my point was more along the lines of he's admitted guilt to something. Merely possessing Quaaludes or even intending to give them out is not a crime, but it does add credibility to these women's claims.
 

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in all fairness, he admitted, while under oath to purchasing Quaaludes for the purpose of giving them to women to have sex with them.

Donald Trump admitted to giving girls reality TV shows for them to have sex with him.
 

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Donald Trump admitted to giving girls reality TV shows for them to have sex with him.

I was going to say Reality TV isn't a drug...but it kinda is :)

All jokes aside, giving someone something of value (money, TV show) when they have no authority over you is at worst sexual harassment or more likely prostitution, depending on if you blame the victim. Giving them drugs, unless they agreed they would trade drugs for sex, is rape.
 

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I don't see why the age of the testimony is relevant to accuracy. Besides, my point was more along the lines of he's admitted guilt to something. Merely possessing Quaaludes or even intending to give them out is not a crime, but it does add credibility to these women's claims.

We are talking about the likelihood of getting a conviction. Information that has already been addressed in previous court cases and not deemed worthy of a conviction is no more relevant today. His admissions thus far have not equated to being guilty of the charges before him so it's not the same as admitting guilt to the charges. The other women's claims are not before the court at this time. It is only the claim of one woman and her case is weak.
 

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We are talking about the likelihood of getting a conviction. Information that has already been addressed in previous court cases and not deemed worthy of a conviction is no more relevant today. His admissions thus far have not equated to being guilty of the charges before him so it's not the same as admitting guilt to the charges. The other women's claims are not before the court at this time. It is only the claim of one woman and her case is weak.

Are we not talking about the court of public opinion? If so, then all this information, is relevant. None of us were on the grand jury or likely will be on the jury, so I don't see what you're getting at.

If we're talking about a jury pool being poisoned, it's just my opinion, but I have no doubt that he'll receive a fair trial, just like OJ Simpson, Robert Durst and any other person famous enough to get great lawyers.
 

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Are we not talking about the court of public opinion? If so, then all this information, is relevant. None of us were on the grand jury or likely will be on the jury, so I don't see what you're getting at.

If we're talking about a jury pool being poisoned, it's just my opinion, but I have no doubt that he'll receive a fair trial, just like OJ Simpson, Robert Durst and any other person famous enough to get great lawyers.

The media is notorious for going beyond reporting the facts by expressining opinion. The sheeple believe what the media tells them. So public opinion doesn't matter to me because it is only a reflecton of the media driven opinion.
 

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So many role models crumble under scrutiny. :(

It's also sad in the winter of his life this will definitely be part of his legacy forever.

While some of these charges could be made up, there seems too much smoke
 

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The media is notorious for going beyond reporting the facts by expressining opinion. The sheeple believe what the media tells them. So public opinion doesn't matter to me because it is only a reflecton of the media driven opinion.

meh, it goes both ways. some people claim to think for themselves, but are just being contrary because they like to rail against public opinion, society or what ever it is that drives them.
 

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meh, it goes both ways. some people claim to think for themselves, but are just being contrary because they like to rail against public opinion, society or what ever it is that drives them.

The public opinion being driven right now that Cosby is guilty before he has his day in court, are not thinking for themselves. They believe what the media tells them and they run with it. I'm not saying he isn't guilty. I'm saying I'm not his judge or jury and neither is the media or society.
 

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The public opinion being driven right now that Cosby is guilty before he has his day in court, are not thinking for themselves. They believe what the media tells them and they run with it. I'm not saying he isn't guilty. I'm saying I'm not his judge or jury and neither is the media or society.

yea, none of us are, but using that logic, do we know Osama Bin Laden was behind 911? I don't speak Arabic, so even though he admitted to it, we're just going by what the media tells us
 
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