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we actually get into playoffs and do well... win a game or two... or atleast show up in first playoff game and not just a "washed out one and done"

or does he get a pass anyways?

Poor playcalling, execution, conservatism... he has to be held accountable for all... but can get a reprieve if we get in... erases all of regular season for most part...
 

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he doesnt get a pass, but he should get more praise than negativity, even if we miss the playoffs

cuz 6-10, to 10-6, is a heck of a turnaround, I dont' care what anyone says, and Parcells should be accountable for all too
 

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summerisfunner said:
he doesnt get a pass, but he should get more praise than negativity, even if we miss the playoffs

cuz 6-10, to 10-6, is a heck of a turnaround, I dont' care what anyone says, and Parcells should be accountable for all too

I dont know if it is so much "negativity" as it is "questionable" - his decisions and playcalling etc...
 

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YoMick said:
we actually get into playoffs and do well... win a game or two... or atleast show up in first playoff game and not just a "washed out one and done"

or does he get a pass anyways?

Poor playcalling, execution, conservatism... he has to be held accountable for all... but can get a reprieve if we get in... erases all of regular season for most part...

Regardless if we make the playoffs or not Bill has help to bring some solid talent on this team and we are a lot futher along than we were before he got here. You can give him a pass or not that is your deal for me this is not about just this season but the direction this team is heading in.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
You can give him a pass or not that is your deal for me this is not about just this season but the direction this team is heading in.

*applause*
 

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What makes me so frustrated with Parcells is that he did so many things right (Bledsoe, Johnson, Drafts), but left himself wide open at the places where his type of game lives or dies: Special Teams and Offensive Line.

Granted some things were beyond his control (injuries, etc...) but you'd think after a million years of coaching, he'd know to have good OL depth and not skimp on Special Teams.
 

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I'm sure Bill Parcells is concerned about whether you, or anyone else NOT his boss, gives him a "pass" or not.


The team is a lot better then it was last year. What the hell do you people expect? We've already got as many wins as most people expected before the season started. He's got the team's habits completely changed around. The team never quits on the field. What the hell more can you ask for? Anything more would require BETTER talent, and I'm sorry but Rome wasn't built in a day. You people forget the mess he took over in the first place I guess.
 

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TonyS said:
What makes me so frustrated with Parcells is that he did so many things right (Bledsoe, Johnson, Drafts), but left himself wide open at the places where his type of game lives or dies: Special Teams and Offensive Line.

Granted some things were beyond his control (injuries, etc...) but you'd think after a million years of coaching, he'd know to have good OL depth and not skimp on Special Teams.

IMO, it was about not being able to plug every hole in one offseason, and think about it, going into the year, only RT was the big question mark on the Oline, we were supposed to have 3 Pro Bowlers on the line, and an up-and-coming C

and like Parcells said, 10-15 teams would be in our same position if their starting LT went down, it's the salary cap area, can't stock-pile depth at every position, and esp. not when the roster has been completely revamped and we're stock-piling starters

it's going to be a process fellas

but I believe Parcells not ensuring that we have a clutch kicker, and firing Hoffman, are/were questionable decisions
 

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Why would he need one? He does not answer to this board. the guy he answers to 'reportedly' gave him an extension. Hes got all the passes he needs, and if you feel a need to drill him, certainly feel free, but dont expect much action from Jerry cause your upset.

Also when you copnsider the vanilla play calling - consider this!

1 - Offense. If the guys are not executing, your play calling looks like crap.
2 - Defense. When learning the basics of a new system, smart pple dont throw the whole damn package at noobs and expect them to learn it today. You slowly introdude the basics and then add the complicated stuff after they have a chance to be proficient in the basics first. While this happens your D looks vanilla.

So while your opinion of his playcalling offers names like Stupid, vanilla or boring, maybe its you who are not getting the full picture. Before you critisize, maybe you should investigate the cause and effect relationships of starting rookie and installing a new defensive scheme.
 

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Rack said:
I'm sure Bill Parcells is concerned about whether you, or anyone else NOT his boss, gives him a "pass" or not.


The team is a lot better then it was last year. What the hell do you people expect? We've already got as many wins as most people expected before the season started. He's got the team's habits completely changed around. The team never quits on the field. What the hell more can you ask for? Anything more would require BETTER talent, and I'm sorry but Rome wasn't built in a day. You people forget the mess he took over in the first place I guess.

Level of agreement=100%
 

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By the power vested in me, by the great state of Pennsylvania, I hereby give Bill Parcells a "pass." I'm not sure what that means, and I have a strong feeling that it doesn't matter, but I give it to him. Also recieving "passes"-

Ebenezer Ekuban

Marcellus Wiley

Pete Hunter

Jacob Rogers

and Sally, from homeroom. She needed to use the bathroom.
 

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Parcells will consider it a failed season and blame himself if we don't make the playoffs. He has already stated this.

He could care less what the fans/media thinks......
 

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what is the pass crap?

Look at the team last year and look at it this year, do you not see a world of difference, it is like night an day!

I think BP signs a contract extension, especially if we have an offseason like we had last year, this team will be sick in 2-3 years. 2007 season is ours for the SB!
 

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I think Bill has shown enough to warrant sticking around for honestly as long as he wants. Unless JJ comes back or something like that, I think Bill should be here at least a few more years and I see a super bowl in there somewhere. We need another offseason to work on hte offense and we will be set.
 

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YoMick said:
we actually get into playoffs and do well... win a game or two... or atleast show up in first playoff game and not just a "washed out one and done"

or does he get a pass anyways?

Poor playcalling, execution, conservatism... he has to be held accountable for all... but can get a reprieve if we get in... erases all of regular season for most part...
With some fans he will get a pass no matter what.

With some fans he'll get criticized no matter what.

Some fans will be wishy washy and flip flop.

There will never be a consensus.
 

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Dehaven,Zimmer, payton, sporano= horrible. Mind you BP hired these bums! Okay if this helps to ease your love for BP! he did a great job in this draft i admit that, However when does this man get blamed for something.

Year #1 inherited a team in disarray
Year #2 witten, jj, crayton= good job, Peterman, Rogers, Stewart, coleman cooper so on and so on= horrible Stated he felt good about his team, team imploded and BP says i misjudged the players!

Year#3 Ware, spears,burnett,petite(young- give him a pass)henry GOOD job! rivera,johnson, no veteran backups at tackles, refusal to sign a proven free Safety,($5 million cap space) Horrible!

80's giants philosophy, conservative play calling, Love keys effort past his prime. Leaving us with no real threat outside of often hurt glenn Horrible. Not putting away teams that we dominate for 58 minutes because" you leave yourself open to mistakes when you open up the offense"

" you are what your record says you are!"(1 game over 500.)= PRICELESS!!!!!!!
 

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kdog said:
" you are what your record says you are!"(1 game over 500.)= PRICELESS!!!!!!!

Did I miss the day in math class when 9-6 was 1 game over .500?
 

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kdog said:
Dehaven,Zimmer, payton, sporano= horrible. Mind you BP hired these bums! Okay if this helps to ease your love for BP! he did a great job in this draft i admit that, However when does this man get blamed for something.

Year #1 inherited a team in disarray
Year #2 witten, jj, crayton= good job, Peterman, Rogers, Stewart, coleman cooper so on and so on= horrible Stated he felt good about his team, team imploded and BP says i misjudged the players!

Year#3 Ware, spears,burnett,petite(young- give him a pass)henry GOOD job! rivera,johnson, no veteran backups at tackles, refusal to sign a proven free Safety,($5 million cap space) Horrible!

80's giants philosophy, conservative play calling, Love keys effort past his prime. Leaving us with no real threat outside of often hurt glenn Horrible. Not putting away teams that we dominate for 58 minutes because" you leave yourself open to mistakes when you open up the offense"

" you are what your record says you are!"(1 game over 500.)= PRICELESS!!!!!!!

Talk about de ja vu.....

Well I think it is safe to say that you don't give Parcells a free pass.
 

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superpunk said:
Did I miss the day in math class when 9-6 was 1 game over .500?
1 game over 500. would refer to his three year tenure!!
 
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