***Blame defense thread***

Gaede;4825592 said:
Anyone blaming the defense was simply not watching the game.

There is nothing you can do when you routinely stop an offense only to see your offense go and give them the ball right back.

The defense ALWAYS plays well at the start of the game but are frequently made to spend more time on the field because the offense is completley incompetent. It's no surprise they give up points in the second half. They're tired. They can't force 3 and outs and shut down the offense the whole game. Why? Because teams do that against us.

For far too long, the defense has been getting the blame because the offense can't score. Someone needs to realize that the offense is putting the defense in position to fail

There is something you can do "GENERATE TURNOVERS".

The Giant's had nearly as many in last weeks game against us as we have in EIGHT GAMES.

How do we manage to be so inept in this????
 
IrishAnto;4825969 said:
There is something you can do "GENERATE TURNOVERS".

The Giant's had nearly as many in last weeks game against us as we have in EIGHT GAMES.

How do we manage to be so inept in this????

I agree with you there.

I don't understand how we can't even luck into a gimme INT once and a while. Not a tipped pass or dropped ball or anything.
 
The Cowboys have no ball awareness and play soft all of the time. CB wise, Mike Jenkins was the only CB who appeared to be trying to take the ball away and he's not a focal part of the defense anymore. Scandrick is the dirt worst at this. The next time he's looking for the ball will be one of the first times. Let's not get into the safeties. When a safety on this team gets a pick, it's by accident. Pressure and hard hits create turnovers too. The Cowboys don't hit anyone hard, they don't try to punch the ball out and they don't get any pressure on QBs.
 
Why is this even a thread? Blaming the defense is just ridiculous. They held one of the most explosive offenses to just 19 points. Sure they collapsed a little bit in the fourth, but that's what happens when the offense continues to fail on capitalizing on opportunities. Offense is clearly to blame for this loss. They were given several opportunities and couldn't score the football at all. I've lost all faith in Jason Garrett. He needs to go.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4825994 said:
Why is this even a thread? Blaming the defense is just ridiculous. They held one of the most explosive offenses to just 19 points. Sure they collapsed a little bit in the fourth, but that's what happens when the offense continues to fail on capitalizing on opportunities. Offense is clearly to blame for this loss. They were given several opportunities and couldn't score the football at all. I've lost all faith in Jason Garrett. He needs to go.

Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm I love Irvin and crew saying the defense did enough. They gave up 8 20 yard plays and 450 yards. Child, please.



Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm 6 drives of 60 or more yards. 7 of 9 drives ended in points or a missed FG. Don't tell me the defense played well.
 
Numbers921;4825998 said:
Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm I love Irvin and crew saying the defense did enough. They gave up 8 20 yard plays and 450 yards. Child, please.



Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm 6 drives of 60 or more yards. 7 of 9 drives ended in points or a missed FG. Don't tell me the defense played well.

Bob Sturm is a tool who knows about as much as my dogs know about the game of football. I don't give a damn how many yards they gave up the bottom line is they only allowed 19 points. Considering they were playing an Atlanta team that had averaged nearly 30 points a game that's pretty impressive. The defense did their job the offense didn't. Simple as that.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4826008 said:
Bob Sturm is a tool who knows about as much as my dogs know about the game of football. I don't give a damn how many yards they gave up the bottom line is they only allowed 19 points. Considering they were playing an Atlanta team that had averaged nearly 30 points a game that's pretty impressive. The defense did their job the offense didn't. Simple as that.

:lmao2:

Okay, guy.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4825994 said:
Why is this even a thread? Blaming the defense is just ridiculous. They held one of the most explosive offenses to just 19 points. Sure they collapsed a little bit in the fourth, but that's what happens when the offense continues to fail on capitalizing on opportunities. Offense is clearly to blame for this loss. They were given several opportunities and couldn't score the football at all. I've lost all faith in Jason Garrett. He needs to go.

Collapsing a little bit in the 4th has been a common theme for the Cowboys D this year. I agree with you that it is unfair to blame the defense given that they have played much better than the O this year, but the fact is that NFL games are often decided in the 4th quarter (especially when we play) and hinge on a pivotal stop or two.
 
blackbull;4826018 said:
Mo had an int before roddy grabbed his arm.

sad thing is White intentionally grabbed on to prevent the INT (great play on his part) and the ref still didn't call it. I know as a cowboy fan we will never got that call but damn.
 
fifaguy;4826013 said:
Collapsing a little bit in the 4th has been a common theme for the Cowboys D this year. I agree with you that it is unfair to blame the defense given that they have played much better than the O this year, but the fact is that NFL games are often decided in the 4th quarter (especially when we play) and hinge on a pivotal stop or two.

Collapsing a little bit in the 4th quarter has been a constant theme around here for many years now, not just this year.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4826027 said:
I don't think so, but they sure as hell know more football than the clowns in this thread blaming the defense even though they only allowed 19 points to the one of the best if not the best offense in the entire NFL.

So you've no problem with them generating no turnovers (yet again) or not forcing the Falcons to punt the ball at the end to give the offense another chance?
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4826027 said:
I don't think so, but they sure as hell know more football than the clowns in this thread blaming the defense even though they only allowed 19 points to the one of the best if not the best offense in the entire NFL.

Our average starting field position as a result of the defense getting torched through the air was our own 25 yard line, and that's including a big punt return by Harris. They did not lose the game, but they certainly didn't help us win the game either.
 
Givincer;4825137 said:
Hard to blame the defense outside of Scandrick on last drive. Blame rests entirely on the offense's inability to capitalize and get the ball in the end zone.

Agreed! 100%
 
IrishAnto;4826024 said:
Collapsing a little bit in the 4th quarter has been a constant theme around here for many years now, not just this year.

amen, brother...
 
Joshmil53;4825535 said:
Someone did an analysis before and I think almost 50% of his sacks were on third down and a lot were in the 4th.

Yes, but how many came in a one-score game where we needed to get the ball back or stop the opponent from scoring?
If he has 2 sacks in a row in a blowout with 10 minutes left in the fourth- that has minimal impact on the outcome, IMO.
How many sacks does he have in the last 5 minutes of one-possession games....when it truly counts?:mad:
 
CowboysYanksLakers;4825670 said:
I'm sorry but I refuse to blame the defense, they held ATL to 19 freakin' points.
they scored on 5 of 9 drives. The only reason it wasn't 7 of 9 was because of missed FGs by Matt Bryant. They had one punt the whole night.

I will say this. THe defense needs to start forcing turnovers. There are 19 individual players in the league that has many or more INTs than Dallas as a team (3 ints)

the pass rush is anemic at best. they don't help the secondary much.

and Danny McCray = Alan Ball = awful
 
That being said, the D played very well in the first half but we lost containment on Turner and let the run game get on track for them in the second half and we also missed some open field tackles that resulted in big plays too.

Overall, letting up the least amount of points all year to possibly the best offense in the league isn't that bad an effort though, imo.
 
CutMeMick;4826116 said:
How many sacks does he have in the last 5 minutes of one-possession games....when it truly counts?

Ware has seven of those in the past five seasons -- more than Robert Mathis (6), Jared Allen (4), Dwight Freeney (4), Lamar Woodley (4), Tamba Hali (4), Cameron Wake (4), Clay Matthews (3), Julius Peppers (2), James Harrison (1), Trent Cole (1) and probably anyone else in the NFL.
 
WoodysGirl;4825543 said:
Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm
I love Irvin and crew saying the defense did enough. They gave up 8 20 yard plays and 450 yards. Child, please.

6 drives of 60 or more yards. 7 of 9 drives ended in points or a missed FG. Don't tell me the defense played well.

now, by no means am I suggesting the offense was good. But that was a given. Only am speaking about defense because of crazy talk.

Sturm shut up. You sound like a clown.
 

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