Bledsoe 50,000 yards

[Nors]

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1041

He's at 41,457

At that pace he adds another 2,771 this year.

At that rate he breaks 50,000 yard barrier week 5 of 2007 season at age 35.

 

[Nors]

Wow - have to double check but Favre and Marino were 36 when they passed 50,000 yards.

Bledsoe has outside shot to be youngest QB ever to throw 50,000 yards. A record that Manning may take down the road!

 

[TNCowboy]

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1041

He's at 41,457

At that pace he adds another 2,771 this year.

At that rate he breaks 50,000 yard barrier week 5 of 2007 season at age 35.

That's because he's stayed healthy and has thrown a lot of passes throughout his career, not because he has been great. He's having a career season, and one that's nowhere near representative of his career as a whole. He's not a HOFer if that's what you're getting at, though he may get in on longevity.

 

[Nors]

He's not a Montana, Elway etc.

But he's starting to show he's worthy of consideration if he can play solid another season and a half. Thats not such a stretch.

If he plays like Marino did to 38/39 he could challenge all time yardage record of 61,000.

 

[Wolverine]

That's because he's stayed healthy and has thrown a lot of passes throughout his career, not because he has been great. He's having a career season, and one that's nowhere near representative of his career as a whole. He's not a HOFer if that's what you're getting at, though he may get in on longevity.

If he gets 50000 yards he should get in the HOF. But if he wins the Super Bowl here then he is guarenteed the HOF. Since Bledsoe has been here this team has burned blitz and made Ds pay for blitzing. Our offense is actually dangerous now.


It would be great if Bledsoe can win 2 Super Bowls here not only would he be a 1st ballot HOFer if he did that he would go in as a Cowboy.

 

[TNCowboy]

He's not a Montana, Elway etc.

But he's starting to show he's worthy of consideration if he can play solid another season and a half. Thats not such a stretch.

If he plays like Marino did to 38/39 he could challenge all time yardage record of 61,000.

I guess it's possible, but I think it's extremely unlikely. He'd need another good 5 years, and that's doubtful. Marino was always one of the least sacked QBs in the NFL, while Bledsoe has taken a pounding, especially up in Buffalo. 2 or 3 good years is probably all we can hope for with him.

His #s are deceiving, though. He has the worst yds/attempt among the 25 or so QBs that have passed for at least 30,000 yds. He's also thrown a ton of passes to get his yards, even more per game than Dan Marino.

IMO, the only way Bledsoe can be considered among the elites is if he has a great 3 years or so to finish his career. I hope he does, but I'm not counting on it.

 

[TNCowboy]

If he gets 50000 yards he should get in the HOF. But if he wins the Super Bowl here then he is guarenteed the HOF. Since Bledsoe has been here this team has burned blitz and made Ds pay for blitzing. Our offense is actually dangerous now.


It would be great if Bledsoe can win 2 Super Bowls here not only would he be a 1st ballot HOFer if he did that he would go in as a Cowboy.

IMO, that would be like a baseball player hitting .280 and getting to 3,000 hits because he played 20 years. I ceased caring about the HOF a long time ago, but IMO, it loses further credence if it lets a guy in because he accumulated #s by longevity, not productivity. I hope Bledsoe has 2 or 3 years that change my mind about him.

 

[Nors]

Bledsoe also turned a 1-15 Pats team into a playoff team fast and soon thereafter to Super Bowl. He won a AFC championship game on road in 2000. And Bills fans forget they were 3-13 pre Drew....

Its real, real difficult to throw for 50,000 yard at age 35. No one has done it yet. He doesn't suck or is as average as most have been led to believe.

Dallas fans - let your eyes be the judge. Not what you have read. He was a dominant QB in his Pats years and a 4500 yard Pro Bowler in 2002.

HOF? I think he needs a Super Bowl win and 2 more good years to get 50,000. At that point he's a shoo in. Today he's out. Fair enough?

 

[Wolverine]

IMO, that would be like a baseball player hitting .280 and getting to 3,000 hits because he played 20 years. I ceased caring about the HOF a long time ago, but IMO, it loses further credence if it lets a guy in because he accumulated #s by longevity, not productivity. I hope Bledsoe has 2 or 3 years that change my mind about him.

Well then since you bring up baseball...then I guess that Hank Aaron should not be in the HOF since it took him nearly 6000 more at bats then Babe Ruth to break the HR record. Or how Barry Bonds should not be in the HOF since it will take him over 1000 more at bats to just tie Ruth HR record. Oh wait....Bonds should not be in the HOF since he needed steroids to put up the numbers he did.

 

[lane]

having drew as our qb has rekindled a spirit in me that i've not known for years.

 

[lane]

how bout them astros?

 

[Nors]

IMO, that would be like a baseball player hitting .280 and getting to 3,000 hits because he played 20 years. I ceased caring about the HOF a long time ago, but IMO, it loses further credence if it lets a guy in because he accumulated #s by longevity, not productivity. I hope Bledsoe has 2 or 3 years that change my mind about him.

3,000 Hits is the MLB standard

50,000 yards is more akin to 3700 hits. Only two players have 50,000 yards I believe in NFL History.

 

[Nors]

I'm rooting for the Astro's

 

[TNCowboy]

Bledsoe also turned a 1-15 Pats team into a playoff team fast and soon thereafter to Super Bowl. He won a AFC championship game on road in 2000. And Bills fans forget they were 3-13 pre Drew....

Its real, real difficult to throw for 50,000 yard at age 35. No one has done it yet. He doesn't suck or is as average as most have been led to believe.

Dallas fans - let your eyes be the judge. Not what you have read. He was a dominant QB in his Pats years and a 4500 yard Pro Bowler in 2002.

HOF? I think he needs a Super Bowl win and 2 more good years to get 50,000. At that point he's a shoo in. Today he's out. Fair enough?

I forgot about that championship game (it was the 2001 playoffs), although iirc, it was special teams and D that won the game for NE.

I'm not saying he's not a good QB. I'm saying he's hasn't been a great QB. It's extraordinarily doubtful he can stay on a 277 yds/game pace. Only a handfull of qbs have ever done that for an extended period of time.

As for my eyes being the judge, I've seen Bledsoe play for years. He's over 100 rating right now, but his career best is 87.7 previously. He's had some impressive games, but if he continues anywhere near the way he's played through 6 games, it will be the exception to his career not the norm.

 

[TNCowboy]

Well then since you bring up baseball...then I guess that Hank Aaron should not be in the HOF since it took him nearly 6000 more at bats then Babe Ruth to break the HR record. Or how Barry Bonds should not be in the HOF since it will take him over 1000 more at bats to just tie Ruth HR record. Oh wait....Bonds should not be in the HOF since he needed steroids to put up the numbers he did.

Bledsoe has had a few good seasons mixed in with a bunch of mediocre ones.

Aaron and other players had great seasons, just not seasons that matched the unbelievable run the Babe had in the 1920s. And it was 4,000 at bats, not 6,000 more than Ruth. But Ruth aside, Aaron put up remarkable numbers. Other than pass attempts and games played, you can't say that about Bledsoe. And no, frankly I give no weight whatsoever to what Bonds has done, especially in the last 5 years.

Put it in this context: Vinny Testaverde missed most of the '99 season with injury and played only a little in 2002 and 2003. If he had played those season fully and had mediocre or even bad numbers, say 3,000 yds each season, he would have approximately 7,000 more yards and 30 or 40 TDs.....and he'd be #2 alltime in passing yards (well over 50,000) and probably 3rd in TDs. Is Vinny a great QB? No, not even close. But by the 50,000 yard standard, he is.

 

[Nors]

Bledsoe has had a few good seasons mixed in with a bunch of mediocre ones.

Aaron and other players had great seasons, just not seasons that matched the unbelievable run the Babe had in the 1920s. And it was 4,000 at bats, not 6,000 more than Ruth. But Ruth aside, Aaron put up remarkable numbers. Other than pass attempts and games played, you can't say that about Bledsoe. And no, frankly I give no weight whatsoever to what Bonds has done, especially in the last 5 years.

Put it in this context: Vinny Testaverde missed most of the '99 season with injury and played only a little in 2002 and 2003. If he had played those season fully and had mediocre or even bad numbers, say 3,000 yds each season, he would have approximately 7,000 more yards and 30 or 40 TDs.....and he'd be #2 alltime in passing yards (well over 50,000) and probably 3rd in TDs. Is Vinny a great QB? No, not even close. But by the 50,000 yard standard, he is.

Vinny has also played near a decade more than Bledsoe.
VT will never see 50,000 yards, never took a team to SB and is threatening all time career Int records if they allow him to continue to play.

 

[Wolverine]

DoubleTrouble

You said how Bledsoe has thrown a ton more passes then Favre and others to get his numbers. Wrong!!

The numbers I give you are up to last weeks game.

Favre - 15 years

7189 attempts - that averages to 479.27 attempts a year


Bledsoe - 13 years

6245 attempts - that averages to 480.38 attempts a year.


I would not call a average of 1 more attempt a year a ton more then Favre.



Oh btw

Favre 234 INTs which averages 15.6 INTs a season.

Bledsoe 185 INTs which averages 14.2 INTs a season.


The big thing Favre has Bledsoe beat on is TD passes. 388 to 232.




Oh and why not bring up Marino and Elway


Marino - 18 years

8358 attempts - averaged 464.33 attempts per year

252 INTs - 14.0 ints a year


Elway - 16 years

7250 attempts - 453.13 attempts a year.

226 INTs - 14.13 INTs a year



Marino is the TD king at 420 TDs


Elway has 300 TD passes even.

By the time Bledsoe retires he will have over 300 TD passes.



So I think when you look at the other QBs Bledsoes numbers are very good and he has not thrown a ton more passes like you said.

 

[Wolverine]

One thing on Elway....


In 16 years his QB rating was 90.0 or better only 2 times. Elway has never had a 30 TD pass season. His best ever was 27 TD passes. I am not slammin Elway but I am just bringin this up so you see that Bledsoes numbers are very good and he really does compare good with the greats like Marino Favre and Elway.

 

[Nors]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18353&page=1&pp=15&highlight=romo

Wow - some real Bledsoe hatred a month before we signed him! Hows that working! Opinions welcomed!

 

[Nors]

60,000 yards is attainable if Bledsoe plays as long as Marino did.