Bledsoe earned my respect

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Bledsoe said something I agreed with completely when he was first signed. Everyone and their dog was chanting the mantra about how he is an immobile, pocket passer. People called him a statue. He mentioned that when one of those running quarterbacks wins a Super Bowl, then maybe its an argument. Success in this game demands a good pocket passer, not some out-of-position WR type who runs most of the time.

But there he was in a pre-season game, taking off for a good ten yards for the first down marker. Looking like he can actually move.

And when he got near the marker, what did he do?
He dove.
Head first.
Took the hit.
Trying for the first down in a Preseason game.
That is the play of a warrior. Kind of stuff Troy would do. Bledsoe earned my respect on that play for fighting in a preseason game. No one would have faulted him for sliding. People would have said "Well, it's a preseason game. He should slide and avoid injury." But guys with heart fight for it.

My first thought when I saw Bledsoe do that was Quincy. I lost all respect for Quincy and permanently was on the anti-Quincy wagon following that game with the St. Louis Rams a couple years ago. I don't remember the specifics anymore, but the situation was something like this:
It was late in the fourth quarter.
The Cowboys were down by three.
It was third down.
Quincy dropped back to pass.
He couldn't find a WR open.
So he took off. That is what Quincy was suppose to be good at. He is, after all, one of them "mobile" QBs. The Cowboys' very own Vick.
So Quincy took off for the first down marker.
As the defenders approached, Quincy slid.
Feet first.
A couple yards short of the marker.
If he had a heart, he would have fought for it and got the first down.
But he slid.
The FG unit came out, and we tied the game. But this was a regular season game and we could have been in a position to win if Quincy had fought for the first down--and running was supposed to be the selling point of a Quincy like QB.

So those moments were juxtaposed in my head. Quincy sliding short of the first down marker when they game as on the line in the regular season. Bledsoe diving head first in a desperate attempt to get the first down early in the game in a preseason game. And that juxtaposition reminded me why I couldn't stand Quincy, and gave me respect for Bledsoe as a competitor---even if he isn't the answer at QB.
 

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cobra said:
Bledsoe said something I agreed with completely when he was first signed. Everyone and their dog was chanting the mantra about how he is an immobile, pocket passer. People called him a statue. He mentioned that when one of those running quarterbacks wins a Super Bowl, then maybe its an argument. Success in this game demands a good pocket passer, not some out-of-position WR type who runs most of the time.

But there he was in a pre-season game, taking off for a good ten yards for the first down marker. Looking like he can actually move. And when he got near the marker, what did he do? He dove. Head first. Took the hit. For the first down in a Preseason game. That is the play of a warrior. Kind of stuff Troy would do. Bledsoe earned my respect on that play for fighting in a preseason game. No one would have faulted him for sliding. People would have said "Well, it's a preseason game. He should slide and avoid injury." But guys with heart fight for it.

My first thought when I saw Bledsoe do that was Quincy. I lost all respect for Quincy and permanently was on the anti-Quincy wagon following that game with the St. Louis Rams a couple years ago. I don't remember the specifics anymore, but the situation was something like this: It was late in the fourth quarter. The Cowboys were down by three. It was third down. Quincy dropped back to pass. He couldn't find a WR open. So he took off. That is what Quincy was suppose to be good at. He is, after all, one of them "mobile" QBs. The Cowboys' very own Vick. So Quincy took off for the first down marker. As the defenders approached, Quincy slid. Feet first. A couple yards short of the marker. If he had a heart, he would have fought for it and got the first down. But he slid. The FG unit came out, and we tied the game. But this was a regular season game and we could have been in a position to win if Quincy had fought for the first down--and running was supposed to be the selling point of a Quincy like QB.

So those moments were juxtaposed in my head. Quincy sliding short of the first down marker when they game as on the line in the regular season. Bledsoe diving head first in a desperate attempt to get the first down early in the game in a preseason game. And that juxtaposition reminded me why I couldn't stand Quincy, and gave me respect for Bledsoe as a competitor---even if he isn't the answer at QB.

Great post. I was thinking about that Carter moment earlier when I posted about Bledsoe diving.

I think Bledsoe is probably making an attempt to show Cowboys fans how bad he wants it. He did come up a yard short, but Parcells wasn't going to let it go for not, and went for the fourth and one and got it.

It shows the fans, as well as his teamates, to get ready. It's all or nothing.
 

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cobra said:
Bledsoe said something I agreed with completely when he was first signed. Everyone and their dog was chanting the mantra about how he is an immobile, pocket passer. People called him a statue. He mentioned that when one of those running quarterbacks wins a Super Bowl, then maybe its an argument. Success in this game demands a good pocket passer, not some out-of-position WR type who runs most of the time.

But there he was in a pre-season game, taking off for a good ten yards for the first down marker. Looking like he can actually move.

And when he got near the marker, what did he do?
He dove.
Head first.
Took the hit.
Trying for the first down in a Preseason game.
That is the play of a warrior. Kind of stuff Troy would do. Bledsoe earned my respect on that play for fighting in a preseason game. No one would have faulted him for sliding. People would have said "Well, it's a preseason game. He should slide and avoid injury." But guys with heart fight for it.

My first thought when I saw Bledsoe do that was Quincy. I lost all respect for Quincy and permanently was on the anti-Quincy wagon following that game with the St. Louis Rams a couple years ago. I don't remember the specifics anymore, but the situation was something like this:
It was late in the fourth quarter.
The Cowboys were down by three.
It was third down.
Quincy dropped back to pass.
He couldn't find a WR open.
So he took off. That is what Quincy was suppose to be good at. He is, after all, one of them "mobile" QBs. The Cowboys' very own Vick.
So Quincy took off for the first down marker.
As the defenders approached, Quincy slid.
Feet first.
A couple yards short of the marker.
If he had a heart, he would have fought for it and got the first down.
But he slid.
The FG unit came out, and we tied the game. But this was a regular season game and we could have been in a position to win if Quincy had fought for the first down--and running was supposed to be the selling point of a Quincy like QB.

So those moments were juxtaposed in my head. Quincy sliding short of the first down marker when they game as on the line in the regular season. Bledsoe diving head first in a desperate attempt to get the first down early in the game in a preseason game. And that juxtaposition reminded me why I couldn't stand Quincy, and gave me respect for Bledsoe as a competitor---even if he isn't the answer at QB.
Quincy was never, ever going to stand in the pocket and take a big hit to make a play. No way, no how. I love Bledsoe's toughness, I just hate the fact that he doesn't move in the pocket, he just freaking stands there.
 

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jimmy40 said:
Quincy was never, ever going to stand in the pocket and take a big hit to make a play. No way, no how. I love Bledsoe's toughness, I just hate the fact that he doesn't move in the pocket, he just freaking stands there.

On the contrary, I though he moved pretty good last night. Better than I think most people tend to give him credit for.
 

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On the contrary, I though he moved pretty good last night. Better than I think most people tend to give him credit for.

I will grant you that his performance last night was much improved over his performance against AZ

So now I am awaiting his performance over the next couple of games.

I still think he looks uncomfortable and lost at times in the pocket. But I thought that the play action worked fairly well and he made some nice throws.
 

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You are correct I gained respect for Bledsoe, I also instantly thought of Carter sliding, not just that one incident, it seems like he did it all the time. I also instantly thought of Troy diving into the end zone against the Broncos (everybody knows the play). Thats is why I think Bledsoe will succeed because he wants to win more than anybody else and prove to the world is a good gb. But I'm going to root for whoever is behind center, because well they are wearing that star, but Blesoe does need to gain some composure back, and that will come with time.

Thats just my 2 cents.
 

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Quincy was never, ever going to stand in the pocket and take a big hit to make a play. No way, no how. I love Bledsoe's toughness, I just hate the fact that he doesn't move in the pocket, he just freaking stands there.

if he keeps completing 60-65% and has a rating of 100+ like he did, he can stand there all he wants

David
 

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Good point about Bledsoe. He does want to prove the doubters wrong and he is a tough guy.

I just hope he can make the plays he needs to make and make good, quick decisions with the football on a consistent basis, something he hasn't done for a while. I'm definitely pulling for him, because no one else is ready to do it for us at this point.
 

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We really are in a good position. We have a 3 QBs with something to prove. We have a young talented RB with something to prove. We have some young talented WRs (Crayton, Copper) with something to prove, and a Defense with alot to prove after going from #1 two years ago to disgusting last season. Not to mention a coach that doesn't take S@#t from his players and won't let anyone get bigger than the team. I guarantee every guy with a star wants nothing more than an "atta boy" from BP.
 

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cobra said:
Bledsoe said something I agreed with completely when he was first signed. Everyone and their dog was chanting the mantra about how he is an immobile, pocket passer. People called him a statue. He mentioned that when one of those running quarterbacks wins a Super Bowl, then maybe its an argument. Success in this game demands a good pocket passer, not some out-of-position WR type who runs most of the time.

But there he was in a pre-season game, taking off for a good ten yards for the first down marker. Looking like he can actually move.

And when he got near the marker, what did he do?
He dove.
Head first.
Took the hit.
Trying for the first down in a Preseason game.
That is the play of a warrior. Kind of stuff Troy would do. Bledsoe earned my respect on that play for fighting in a preseason game. No one would have faulted him for sliding. People would have said "Well, it's a preseason game. He should slide and avoid injury." But guys with heart fight for it.


My first thought when I saw Bledsoe do that was Quincy. I lost all respect for Quincy and permanently was on the anti-Quincy wagon following that game with the St. Louis Rams a couple years ago. I don't remember the specifics anymore, but the situation was something like this:
It was late in the fourth quarter.
The Cowboys were down by three.
It was third down.
Quincy dropped back to pass.
He couldn't find a WR open.
So he took off. That is what Quincy was suppose to be good at. He is, after all, one of them "mobile" QBs. The Cowboys' very own Vick.
So Quincy took off for the first down marker.
As the defenders approached, Quincy slid.
Feet first.
A couple yards short of the marker.
If he had a heart, he would have fought for it and got the first down.
But he slid.
The FG unit came out, and we tied the game. But this was a regular season game and we could have been in a position to win if Quincy had fought for the first down--and running was supposed to be the selling point of a Quincy like QB.

So those moments were juxtaposed in my head. Quincy sliding short of the first down marker when they game as on the line in the regular season. Bledsoe diving head first in a desperate attempt to get the first down early in the game in a preseason game. And that juxtaposition reminded me why I couldn't stand Quincy, and gave me respect for Bledsoe as a competitor---even if he isn't the answer at QB.

Diving head first was stupid. This is preseason he put the entire team at risk for regular season and im sure parcells was very unhappy about him putting his neck out like that in a game that has no meritt on our season's outcome. I for one yelled at the TV he wasnt going to get the 1st diving or sliding and he made the idiotic choice to go for it anyway in a Preseason game.
 

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No one ever questions Bledsoe toughness :confused:; We have question his accuracy; his tendency to pat the ball to much and get sacked or sack/fumble or pat int. We question him holding on to the ball way to long to try and make a play downfield instead of dumping it off. There are questions about his progressions to his next wr and his sloppy mechanics he shows; the bad footwork which he still has at times.

Everyone calls Bledsoe a longball qb yet he has a career 6.58ypa he has a career 57% completion %. I worry because in the last two years his numbers have been on par with Vinny and QC.

So he gained no respect from me we already knew he was tough; but like he has done often he makes bad decision see Virusx diving head 1st in a preseason game. There is a time and a place for that (playoffs and superbowl) the preseasons is not one of them.
 

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VirusX said:
Diving head first was stupid. This is preseason he put the entire team at risk for regular season and im sure parcells was very unhappy about him putting his neck out like that in a game that has no meritt on our season's outcome. I for one yelled at the TV he wasnt going to get the 1st diving or sliding and he made the idiotic choice to go for it anyway in a Preseason game.


Well you are sure a team player. I'm sure Bledsoe was thinking what if I get injured and its only preseason. NOT. Bledsoe wants to win and will do anything in his power to that, but what was going through his mind is "I gotta get the first down". And quite frankly if he gets injured there, he wasn't going to last the season. IMO
 

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That effort earned some respect from me as well.

Afterall, if I can be an equal opportunity malcontent, I can give respect where it is due as well.
 

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Kangaroo said:
No one ever questions Bledsoe toughness :confused:; We have question his accuracy; his tendency to pat the ball to much and get sacked or sack/fumble or pat int. We question him holding on to the ball way to long to try and make a play downfield instead of dumping it off. There are questions about his progressions to his next wr and his sloppy mechanics he shows; the bad footwork which he still has at times.

Everyone calls Bledsoe a longball qb yet he has a career 6.58ypa he has a career 57% completion %. I worry because in the last two years his numbers have been on par with Vinny and QC.

So he gained no respect from me we already knew he was tough; but like he has done often he makes bad decision see Virusx diving head 1st in a preseason game. There is a time and a place for that (playoffs and superbowl) the preseasons is not one of them.


Patting the ball isn't the problem ... standing there holding on to it is ..
 

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Well you are sure a team player. I'm sure Bledsoe was thinking what if I get injured and its only preseason. NOT. Bledsoe wants to win and will do anything in his power to that, but what was going through his mind is "I gotta get the first down". And quite frankly if he gets injured there, he wasn't going to last the season. IMO

No it shows you do not understand the situation; and you do not understand the ramifications of those actions. That is something young guuys tend to do and then the coaches chews on them because that was not the time to do that. Like I said there is a time and place for those type of actions; Bledsoe is not fighting for a roster spot and he is not fighting for the starting QB spot. Preseason is not the time or the place for that from a vet that should know better.
 

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No it shows you do not understand the situation; and you do not understand the ramifications of those actions. That is something young guuys tend to do and then the coaches chews on them because that was not the time to do that. Like I said there is a time and place for those type of actions; Bledsoe is not fighting for a roster spot and he is not fighting for the starting QB spot. Preseason is not the time or the place for that from a vet that should know better.
:hammer:
 

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No it shows you do not understand the situation; and you do not understand the ramifications of those actions. That is something young guuys tend to do and then the coaches chews on them because that was not the time to do that. Like I said there is a time and place for those type of actions; Bledsoe is not fighting for a roster spot and he is not fighting for the starting QB spot. Preseason is not the time or the place for that from a vet that should know better.

Please :rolleyes:
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
Patting the ball isn't the problem ... standing there holding on to it is ..

Not if you are patting it when you get hit, from standing there.;)

The patting does three things and they are all bad:

1. It's a tell to any DBs looking in that he is about to look elsewhere.

2. It slows down his delivery.

3. It takes a hand off the ball which makes a strip or hit and fumble more likely.
 

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Well you are sure a team player. I'm sure Bledsoe was thinking what if I get injured and its only preseason. NOT. Bledsoe wants to win and will do anything in his power to that, but what was going through his mind is "I gotta get the first down".

And you know this how? How do you know the only thing on Bledsoe's mind right now is winning? Personally, I think his thought process is NOT 'I need to win' in the preseason. It's the PRESEASON for bob's sake. He's working the kinks out of his game and getting acclimated with the offense. Who is to say what Bledsoe was thinking when he took off, other than "I'm not good enough to find somebody open on this play." Please.
 
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