Bledsoe was under Belichick

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Bledsoe was part of the team when Belicheat was there, right? Doesn't he have some insight into the real scoop on how long spygate was going on? I doubt he has much loyalty to Tom Brady. It sure would be interesting to find out was his take on those Taperiots.
 

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Well they were 5-11 when was the starter, 11-5 the year he got hurt and they upset the Rams and 8-8 right after they traded him in 2002.

They looked to be one year wonders especially after Bledsoe and the Bills spanked them 31-0 in the 2003 season opener but they regrouped...or started cheating and won the next two Super Bowls by a field goal.
 

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Doubt the Cowboys have much contact with Bledsoe. Remember Parcells benched him and replaced him with Romo. Really doubt he would share any Patriot secrets with us or tell anybody else. Also I saw an article about him and the name of the team he coaches is the Patriots. The article also indicated he and Brady were closer then he and Romo.
 

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nathanlt;1714797 said:
Bledsoe was part of the team when Belicheat was there, right? Doesn't he have some insight into the real scoop on how long spygate was going on? I doubt he has much loyalty to Tom Brady. It sure would be interesting to find out was his take on those Taperiots.



Taperiots - thats a good one... havent seen that one yet LOL

They either didnt cheat or didnt cheat enough when he was QB :D
Bledsoe wont admit to it because he would then be labeled as a QB who couldnt win the big one even with the competitive advantage
 

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Bledsoe is too classy to get caught up in this stuff.
He understands gamesmanship and the code of ethic's in the NFL.

Jimmy Johnson did it, Saban, Coughlina and BB did it. I'd be stunned if Parcells wasn't doing it also. If teams are signing teams are trying to steal them.

It wasn't illegal pre 2007 to tape signs. No story here.
 

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YoMick;1714870 said:
Taperiots - thats a good one... havent seen that one yet LOL

They either didnt cheat or didnt cheat enough when he was QB :D
Bledsoe wont admit to it because he would then be labeled as a QB who couldnt win the big one even with the competitive advantage
Seeming the team went from 5-11 to 11-5 then 8-8 to 14-2 I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with the 2001 Super Bowl but am suspicious that after 2002's relapse into mediocrity if they didn't take drastic measures.
 

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Most realize that with Helmets and plays radio'd in.....

It's only the defense that can steal plays live, if they can decode it as d calls are made from sidelines.

Fact is a defense has to adjust read and still make calls on the fly. They can't be looking at the Hoodie as offenses go in motion etc etc.

JJ said he stopped trying to steal signs eventually because it gave him no real advantage.
 

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Aikbach;1714876 said:
Seeming the team went from 5-11 to 11-5 then 8-8 to 14-2 I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with the 2001 Super Bowl but am suspicious that after 2002's relapse into mediocrity if they didn't take drastic measures.

And now with no tapes they are 6-0 crushing NFL. Its all players and coaching.

Fact is they are the best team of this decade, clearly.

And JJ was terrible 1988-1991 - did he start stealing signs too? Well, yes he did. Was totally legal to 2007. Seems like no one wants to admit in 1990's we did just what BB did.

Guess that don't count against Cowboys.....:)
 

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Nors;1714891 said:
And now with no tapes they are 6-0 crushing NFL. Its all players and coaching.

Fact is they are the best team of this decade, clearly.

And JJ was terrible 1988-1991 - did he start stealing signs too? Well, yes he did. Was totally legal to 2007. Seems like no one wants to admit in 1990's we did just what BB did.

Guess that don't count against Cowboys.....:)
No Commander Trojan it doesn't because the league didn't crack down on it or launch a damning investigation.

You are the one accusing people of whining about the game when in reality they are simply discussing the facts that the Patriots have been cheating in the past.

Go back to extremeskins and revel in your defeat at the hands of the packers.
 

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nathanlt;1714797 said:
Bledsoe was part of the team when Belicheat was there, right? Doesn't he have some insight into the real scoop on how long spygate was going on? I doubt he has much loyalty to Tom Brady. It sure would be interesting to find out was his take on those Taperiots.

I doubt he has much loyalty to Romo either ;)
 

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There was an article floating around before our game last week where Bledsoe was asked about it, and he said something to the effect of, "We tried to get every advantage we possibly could, and we were pretty darn good at it."

I'm sure it could be found with a search.
 

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Aikbach;1714899 said:
No Commander Trojan it doesn't because the league didn't crack down on it or launch a damning investigation.

You are the one accusing people of whining about the game when in reality they are simply discussing the facts that the Patriots have been cheating in the past.

Go back to extremeskins and revel in your defeat at the hands of the packers.

I don't think I've been to Extreme Skins in 5 years. Look in the mirror.

BB and JJ were operating under same rules in 1992,1993, 2001,2003,2004. What is the difference?

Manginirat and BB got caught up breaking a 2007 rule.
 

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Nors;1714932 said:
I don't think I've been to Extreme Skins in 5 years. Look in the mirror.

BB and JJ were operating under same rules in 1992,1993, 2001,2003,2004. What is the difference?

Manginirat and BB got caught up breaking a 2007 rule.
They were punished for their offenses THIS year but were warned years ago, quit revising history for your haterade arguments, they hold no water.

Pats are good, no one questions the current incarnation but there is sound evidence now mysteriously burned that suggests foul play in the past, so get over yourself.
 

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Aikbach;1714952 said:
They were punished for their offenses THIS year but were warned years ago, quit revising history for your haterade arguments, they hold no water.

Pats are good, no one questions the current incarnation but there is sound evidence now mysteriously burned that suggests foul play in the past, so get over yourself.

No, you need to admitt the Pats were doing what we did with JJ in the 90's. Totally legal pre 2007 rule change, stealing signs.

What was not illegal then is not cheating, Especially as we did it too in 1990's. I'm out if that won't sink in :)
 

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Nors;1714981 said:
No, you need to admitt the Pats were doing what we did with JJ in the 90's. Totally legal pre 2007 rule change, stealing signs.

What was not illegal then is not cheating, Especially as we did it too in 1990's. I'm out if that won't sink in :)
You've been out for a while I'm afraid seeming they were warned years ago! They cheated, they weren't punished until 2007.
 

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Aikbach;1714876 said:
Seeming the team went from 5-11 to 11-5 then 8-8 to 14-2 I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with the 2001 Super Bowl but am suspicious that after 2002's relapse into mediocrity if they didn't take drastic measures.

They made alot of upgrades via FA in '03(getting Ted Washington at NT, Rodney Harrison at SS, Richard Seymour reaching his prime, etc).

In '02, their NT was some guy by the name of Steve Martin(no, not the comedian), and Lawyer Milloy had his worst season(which is why they signed Rodney the year after). Bruschki got injured in the stretch run, which is why they faded.

BTW-they got thumped by Buf in the '03 opener b/c Milloy was cut a few days BEFORE that game(and Buf picked him up immediately). Hint: Milloy KNEW their game plan.
 

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Nors;1714981 said:
Totally legal pre 2007 rule change, stealing signs.

No, it's been illegal for years. In fact, the NFL sent out a memo at the beginning of LAST season reminding teams that no video cameras are allowed on the sidelines.
 

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AdamJT13;1715006 said:
No, it's been illegal for years. In fact, the NFL sent out a memo at the beginning of LAST season reminding teams that no video cameras are allowed on the sidelines.

JJ and BB both admitted to it, its gamesmanship and I guess its all tainted now. So its legal to tape from stands and press box still? But sidelines is voodoo? Thats kinda silly with modern technology.

BB deserves a stupid award for getting caught - LOL
 

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AdamJT13;1715006 said:
No, it's been illegal for years. In fact, the NFL sent out a memo at the beginning of LAST season reminding teams that no video cameras are allowed on the sidelines.

But Saban bought a tape from a "contractor" that had closeups and video of Brady's line calls and audibles and NFL had no problem with that in 2006.....
 

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Nors;1715073 said:
JJ and BB both admitted to it, its gamesmanship and I guess its all tainted now. So its legal to tape from stands and press box still? But sidelines is voodoo? Thats kinda silly with modern technology.

BB deserves a stupid award for getting caught - LOL

Come on, people, let it go-the reason why we're crying about the Cheatriots is b/c we're sour grapes over the loss. It's not like there's tons of evidence out there that BB cheated on us too.

It's not like that xmas loss to the Eagles, where we just blew our only chance to win the East.
 
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