Bleeding Green Nation: 5 Burning Questions About Eagles @ Cowboys

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5 Burning Questions About Eagles @ Cowboys

Tiny by Andrew B on Dec 28, 2009 3:15 PM EST Comment 117 comments

1. Can the Cowboys Offense score more than 14 points in this game?

No. In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has never scored more than 14 points. The Cowboys offense has scored 13, 3, 3, 10, 7, 14, 7, 6, and 6 points over those years in the second meeting between the teams. The Cowboys have only scored over 14 points in the second meeting of the two teams one time since 1996 - in 1999, when they got 20. They have not scored over 21 points in the second match-up since 1994, prior to Jeffrey Lurie purchasing the Eagles.



2. Can the Cowboys Offense avoid making multiple turnovers and allowing 3 or more sacks?

No. In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has turned the ball over at least 2 times excepting only 2005. In the second game from 2000 on, the Cowboys have comitted 2, 4, 3, 2, 2, 1, 3, 3, and 5 turnovers in those games, and those turnovers have been critical to Dallas' lack of success in these games (1-8 record vs. Eagles in the second match-up). Dallas gave up points to the Philadelphia Defense in about half of the second games: in 2001 (two interception returns), 2002 (interception return), 2003 (safety), 2008 (two fumble returns). Dallas gave up 3, 3, 7, 3, 3, 2, 3, 4, and 4 sacks in those games. Again the only outlier is 2005. When you fail to score over 14 points on offense for 9 games in a row, there is a generally a reason.

3. Can the Cowboys Defense hold the Eagles to less than 16 points?

No. The Cowboys Defense has only held the Eagles to under 16 points 3 times in the second match-up since 1993. In 1998, the Eagles were held to 9 points, in 1999 to 10 points, and in 2004 to 12 points. In 2007, the Eagles voluntarily did not score a touchdown at the end of regulation to run out the game clock. I would only count that as holding down the Eagles scoring if you attribute Brian Westbrook's taking a knee to the devious mind powers of Wade Phillips and the Cowboys Defense.



4. If the Cowboys Offense cannot score over 14 points against the Eagles, and the Cowboys Defense cannot hold the Eagles to less than 16 points, can Dallas win the game?

Only if the Eagles give up points on offensive turnovers or special teams, or if Rich Kotite (Mr. 0-4 in second match-ups vs. the Cowboys) suddenly returns to coach the Eagles this week. There is a reason that Dallas is 1-8 vs. the Eagles since 2000 and 3-11 vs. the Eagles since 1995 in the second game of the season.



5. Okay, but can the Cowboys win in Dallas against the Eagles in a late season game with playoff implications?

No. The Cowboys have not won in Dallas in December against the Eagles since 1999. They lost in 2002, 2006, 2007 at home in Dallas to the Eagles in December. The Cowboys also blew it in December at the Eagles in 2003, 2004, and 2008. The Cowboys blew a shot in the playoffs in the game in 2008, nearly blew the #1 seed in 2007, blew the division title in 2006, and blew the division title in 2003. That's a lot of choking for such a short period of time.
 

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I did get a chuckle out of seeing "no" to every question, but I will say this: That's an interesting stat about us failing to score over 14 points against them in the second meeting. Of course, this is a different team and it might not matter a hill of beans.

I could also turn that stat on his head and say that Jim Johnson was the defensive coordinator of those teams and isn't now. We'll see if that has any bearing on the hated 'second meeting.'
 

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Other than that Mrs. Lincoln...how did you like the play?

Can you now call the Cowboys a different team with a mature QB who's having a great year, a solid defense and improved special teams that erases every previous stat mentioned in the post?

Yes. Cowboys win.
 

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I think having the dome stadium in Dallas should help us on cold-weather days. Romo doesn't seem to be a cold weather QB whereas McNabb seems to do well under these conditions.
 
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Man Eagles fans are quite up on their stats for sure! I'm sure whoever wrote that is swilling themselves full of yuengling bat piss, and tasty cakes. That hurt my mind, and my eyes just to read that garbage. Funny we've scored MORE than 14 points against their team since 2000. Does owning Stats mean you win superbowls? Think about that one Eagles fans.
 

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RainMan;3183628 said:
I did get a chuckle out of seeing "no" to every question, but I will say this: That's an interesting stat about us failing to score over 14 points against them in the second meeting. Of course, this is a different team and it might not matter a hill of beans.

I could also turn that stat on his head and say that Jim Johnson was the defensive coordinator of those teams and isn't now. We'll see if that has any bearing on the hated 'second meeting.'

I was just getting ready to post what you stated about Coach Johnson. He always liked to play a vanilla defense early in the year and then bring the heat late. It will be interesting if Mcdermott does the same thing or is able to.
 

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Just can't believe that some can make a rational argument with that kind of stats. What an asinine discussion. Does this guy really think he is convincing anyone with that gobbledy****ed trivia trash. Go away, but join us here after we wipe the field with McNabb.
 

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RainMan;3183628 said:
I did get a chuckle out of seeing "no" to every question, but I will say this: That's an interesting stat about us failing to score over 14 points against them in the second meeting. Of course, this is a different team and it might not matter a hill of beans.

I could also turn that stat on his head and say that Jim Johnson was the defensive coordinator of those teams and isn't now. We'll see if that has any bearing on the hated 'second meeting.'


That's a very good point you just brought up.
 

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viman96;3183618 said:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/12/28/1222304/5-burning-questions-about-eagles

5 Burning Questions About Eagles @ Cowboys

Tiny by Andrew B on Dec 28, 2009 3:15 PM EST Comment 117 comments

1. Can the Cowboys Offense score more than 14 points in this game?

No. In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has never scored more than 14 points. The Cowboys offense has scored 13, 3, 3, 10, 7, 14, 7, 6, and 6 points over those years in the second meeting between the teams. The Cowboys have only scored over 14 points in the second meeting of the two teams one time since 1996 - in 1999, when they got 20. They have not scored over 21 points in the second match-up since 1994, prior to Jeffrey Lurie purchasing the Eagles.



2. Can the Cowboys Offense avoid making multiple turnovers and allowing 3 or more sacks?

No. In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has turned the ball over at least 2 times excepting only 2005. In the second game from 2000 on, the Cowboys have comitted 2, 4, 3, 2, 2, 1, 3, 3, and 5 turnovers in those games, and those turnovers have been critical to Dallas' lack of success in these games (1-8 record vs. Eagles in the second match-up). Dallas gave up points to the Philadelphia Defense in about half of the second games: in 2001 (two interception returns), 2002 (interception return), 2003 (safety), 2008 (two fumble returns). Dallas gave up 3, 3, 7, 3, 3, 2, 3, 4, and 4 sacks in those games. Again the only outlier is 2005. When you fail to score over 14 points on offense for 9 games in a row, there is a generally a reason.

3. Can the Cowboys Defense hold the Eagles to less than 16 points?

No. The Cowboys Defense has only held the Eagles to under 16 points 3 times in the second match-up since 1993. In 1998, the Eagles were held to 9 points, in 1999 to 10 points, and in 2004 to 12 points. In 2007, the Eagles voluntarily did not score a touchdown at the end of regulation to run out the game clock. I would only count that as holding down the Eagles scoring if you attribute Brian Westbrook's taking a knee to the devious mind powers of Wade Phillips and the Cowboys Defense.



4. If the Cowboys Offense cannot score over 14 points against the Eagles, and the Cowboys Defense cannot hold the Eagles to less than 16 points, can Dallas win the game?

Only if the Eagles give up points on offensive turnovers or special teams, or if Rich Kotite (Mr. 0-4 in second match-ups vs. the Cowboys) suddenly returns to coach the Eagles this week. There is a reason that Dallas is 1-8 vs. the Eagles since 2000 and 3-11 vs. the Eagles since 1995 in the second game of the season.



5. Okay, but can the Cowboys win in Dallas against the Eagles in a late season game with playoff implications?

No. The Cowboys have not won in Dallas in December against the Eagles since 1999. They lost in 2002, 2006, 2007 at home in Dallas to the Eagles in December. The Cowboys also blew it in December at the Eagles in 2003, 2004, and 2008. The Cowboys blew a shot in the playoffs in the game in 2008, nearly blew the #1 seed in 2007, blew the division title in 2006, and blew the division title in 2003. That's a lot of choking for such a short period of time.

I guess we should just call Goddell and tell him we forfeit since "we have no chance".

Where have I heard that before???
 

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I wonder how the Boston celtics feel about the eagles stealing bleeding green from them? Always and clearly been a celtics reference.
 

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viman96;3183618 said:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/12/28/1222304/5-burning-questions-about-eagles5. Okay, but can the Cowboys win in Dallas against the Eagles in a late season game with playoff implications?

No. The Cowboys have not won in Dallas in December against the Eagles since 1999. They lost in 2002, 2006, 2007 at home in Dallas to the Eagles in December. The Cowboys also blew it in December at the Eagles in 2003, 2004, and 2008. The Cowboys blew a shot in the playoffs in the game in 2008, nearly blew the #1 seed in 2007, blew the division title in 2006, and blew the division title in 2003. That's a lot of choking for such a short period of time.

An Eagles writer calling us out for choking? That's like Andy Reid calling Wade "fatty"...
 

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:laugh2::laugh1: :lmao2: at this article.


Get your tape out Wade, every locker needs this crap taped to it.
 

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Mr. Austin wants to show the moron blogger his magic trick:

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Watch me turn this ordinary football into a Eagle's fan base full of disappointment.
 

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DandyDon1722;3183629 said:
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln...how did you like the play?

Can you now call the Cowboys a different team with a mature QB who's having a great year, a solid defense and improved special teams that erases every previous stat mentioned in the post?

Yes. Cowboys win.


i spit my coffee out on your opening line.:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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RainMan;3183628 said:
I did get a chuckle out of seeing "no" to every question,

Especially from a biased bloggite.

but I will say this: That's an interesting stat about us failing to score over 14 points against them in the second meeting. Of course, this is a different team and it might not matter a hill of beans.

I don't even find the statistic interesting. Then again, I don't push my taped glasses up my nose repeatedly.
 

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This is where I can't stand Wade Phillip. The Cowboys should run the score way up, but Wade doesn't do that. He takes mercy on teams.

I want a 52-0 shutout. :mad:
 
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