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The Hogs still hate the Dallas Cowboys
When will the Commanders nostalgia posts end? Hey, gotta justify that $93 car rental, right? Plus, I was a history major. In other words, never.
Saturday night, after Russ Grimm had been inducted into the Hall of Fame, Jeff Bostic came over to chat with a few media types, including 106.7 The Fan's Brian Mitchell and Chris Johnson, the guys from Hogs Haven, and me. I asked Bostic about the portion of Joe Bugel's presentation in which the video screen showed the 1982 Commanders ramming the ball down Dallas's gullet.
"Kinda brought back memories," Bostic said. "We felt pretty good about ourselves back then. Any time you beat the Cowboys, it feels good. I hate Cowboys. I won't ever pull for them. I want everybody to beat them."
Now, this was a fine enough quote on its own. But it was made slightly better by the fact that a guy in a Cowboys jersey was standing directly next to Bostic, easily within earshot, trying to get an autograph. I pointed out the Dallas fan. Bostic shrugged.
"I really don't have a whole lot of use for the Cowboys, for being the self-proclaimed America's Team," he said. "I mean, who named them that? Did they take a vote? What are they, The Anointed Ones? I mean, they thought they were when we came in the league, and it's kind of nice sticking it to them a couple times."
I should note here that the crowd all weekend in Canton was dominated by Dallas folks. The mayor of Canton said something about making it Dallas Cowboys Day there. The Emmitt Smith jerseys were everywhere. The tornado of fans trying to take photos of Troy Aikman was insane. "Smile for us Troy!" one middle-aged man screamed.
The crowd on Saturday night was dominated by Dallas fans, and the applause lines earned roars -- Chris Berman bellowing "How 'bout them Cowboys," Emmitt talking about "the team that I always wanted to play for, America's Team, the Dallas Cowboys" and remembering when Jimmy Johnson asked him, "how would you like to wear a star on your helmet?"
(By Mark Duncan - AP)So you almost had to ask the Hogs what it was like to see Dallas partisans everywhere as they celebrated one of their own, right?
"I told a bunch of the guys, I said hey, this is a great night, there were just too many Cowboys here," Joe Gibbs said with a laugh. "You never grow old on that one."
"We still get our game face on when we see all these Cowboy uniforms, of course," George Starke said. "Absolutely. They're the Cowboys, we're the Commanders, we're not supposed to like them, and we don't. We still sign their autographs and stuff like that, we're not mean people. But you know, we wear the white hats and they wear the black hats."
"I don't like 'em," Bostic said. "I had a chance to go to their stadium last year and I said no interest."
"Yeah, I don't like 'em either," Joe Jacoby agreed. "It's never gonna die. Thirteen years, playing in the NFC East, to hear all that America's Team [talk]....Hey, they've had success, whatever. But it's still a rivalry, and it was nice that we still got to see it again tonight."
"Oh yeah, I was pissed off," Neal Olkewicz said of the Dallas invasion. "I mean, I like Emmitt Smith, but seeing all them Cowboy jerseys just kind of got me going. I understand why they're there, but I didn't like it."
And what about the America's Team talk?
"I like that even worse," Olkewicz said.
I mean, this was like throwing bleeding steaks into a pack of starving tailgaters. The Hogs couldn't help but bite. A lot of D.C. types have worried that the rivalry is losing some of its luster, but even Michael Irvin disagreed.
"Every time I go to D.C. and I'm trying to do a game, I see other guys that played against the Commanders," Irvin told me. "And the fans get around us, and they spend the whole two years that we're on the air - Dal-las Sucks, hey Michael Irvin, Dal-las sucks!!!! And I can't even hear, nor talk. I can't hear myself talk, or the people around myself on the desk talking, because of Dallas Sucks. It's like, I've been retired for 10 years, can you get on somebody else?
"But it just stays. Honestly, it will never die, and I don't necessarily want it to, because that means there's the passion for the game. You know the passion for the game is in D.C. I know people in Dallas have passion for this game. So it will probably always be that way. ...They tried to say the great [Dallas] rivalry was with the 49ers, because we met in the NFC championship game. It was always the Commanders. And honestly, it will always be the Commanders."
The Hogs agreed.
"Going back to high school and college, you've got to have a rival, you've got to have somebody to hate, and for us it was easy," Jim Lachey told me. "When you got to Washington, it was the Cowboys, and I fell right into place, man. I was like, ok, this is what I want to do, hate the Cowboys. And to this day man, if I'm gonna watch two games of the Commanders a year, it's gonna be the Cowboy games."
Before I gave up on this topic, I had to ask Daniel Snyder about the Dallas invasion of Canton.
"You know, we owned this stadium when Art and Darrell got in," Snyder said later that night, at the party he hosted for Russ Grimm. "With Emmitt and Jerry Rice, we didn't own it today. But we will again."
By Dan Steinberg | August 9, 2010; 2:46 PM ET
When will the Commanders nostalgia posts end? Hey, gotta justify that $93 car rental, right? Plus, I was a history major. In other words, never.
Saturday night, after Russ Grimm had been inducted into the Hall of Fame, Jeff Bostic came over to chat with a few media types, including 106.7 The Fan's Brian Mitchell and Chris Johnson, the guys from Hogs Haven, and me. I asked Bostic about the portion of Joe Bugel's presentation in which the video screen showed the 1982 Commanders ramming the ball down Dallas's gullet.
"Kinda brought back memories," Bostic said. "We felt pretty good about ourselves back then. Any time you beat the Cowboys, it feels good. I hate Cowboys. I won't ever pull for them. I want everybody to beat them."
Now, this was a fine enough quote on its own. But it was made slightly better by the fact that a guy in a Cowboys jersey was standing directly next to Bostic, easily within earshot, trying to get an autograph. I pointed out the Dallas fan. Bostic shrugged.
"I really don't have a whole lot of use for the Cowboys, for being the self-proclaimed America's Team," he said. "I mean, who named them that? Did they take a vote? What are they, The Anointed Ones? I mean, they thought they were when we came in the league, and it's kind of nice sticking it to them a couple times."
I should note here that the crowd all weekend in Canton was dominated by Dallas folks. The mayor of Canton said something about making it Dallas Cowboys Day there. The Emmitt Smith jerseys were everywhere. The tornado of fans trying to take photos of Troy Aikman was insane. "Smile for us Troy!" one middle-aged man screamed.
The crowd on Saturday night was dominated by Dallas fans, and the applause lines earned roars -- Chris Berman bellowing "How 'bout them Cowboys," Emmitt talking about "the team that I always wanted to play for, America's Team, the Dallas Cowboys" and remembering when Jimmy Johnson asked him, "how would you like to wear a star on your helmet?"
(By Mark Duncan - AP)So you almost had to ask the Hogs what it was like to see Dallas partisans everywhere as they celebrated one of their own, right?
"I told a bunch of the guys, I said hey, this is a great night, there were just too many Cowboys here," Joe Gibbs said with a laugh. "You never grow old on that one."
"We still get our game face on when we see all these Cowboy uniforms, of course," George Starke said. "Absolutely. They're the Cowboys, we're the Commanders, we're not supposed to like them, and we don't. We still sign their autographs and stuff like that, we're not mean people. But you know, we wear the white hats and they wear the black hats."
"I don't like 'em," Bostic said. "I had a chance to go to their stadium last year and I said no interest."
"Yeah, I don't like 'em either," Joe Jacoby agreed. "It's never gonna die. Thirteen years, playing in the NFC East, to hear all that America's Team [talk]....Hey, they've had success, whatever. But it's still a rivalry, and it was nice that we still got to see it again tonight."
"Oh yeah, I was pissed off," Neal Olkewicz said of the Dallas invasion. "I mean, I like Emmitt Smith, but seeing all them Cowboy jerseys just kind of got me going. I understand why they're there, but I didn't like it."
And what about the America's Team talk?
"I like that even worse," Olkewicz said.
I mean, this was like throwing bleeding steaks into a pack of starving tailgaters. The Hogs couldn't help but bite. A lot of D.C. types have worried that the rivalry is losing some of its luster, but even Michael Irvin disagreed.
"Every time I go to D.C. and I'm trying to do a game, I see other guys that played against the Commanders," Irvin told me. "And the fans get around us, and they spend the whole two years that we're on the air - Dal-las Sucks, hey Michael Irvin, Dal-las sucks!!!! And I can't even hear, nor talk. I can't hear myself talk, or the people around myself on the desk talking, because of Dallas Sucks. It's like, I've been retired for 10 years, can you get on somebody else?
"But it just stays. Honestly, it will never die, and I don't necessarily want it to, because that means there's the passion for the game. You know the passion for the game is in D.C. I know people in Dallas have passion for this game. So it will probably always be that way. ...They tried to say the great [Dallas] rivalry was with the 49ers, because we met in the NFC championship game. It was always the Commanders. And honestly, it will always be the Commanders."
The Hogs agreed.
"Going back to high school and college, you've got to have a rival, you've got to have somebody to hate, and for us it was easy," Jim Lachey told me. "When you got to Washington, it was the Cowboys, and I fell right into place, man. I was like, ok, this is what I want to do, hate the Cowboys. And to this day man, if I'm gonna watch two games of the Commanders a year, it's gonna be the Cowboy games."
Before I gave up on this topic, I had to ask Daniel Snyder about the Dallas invasion of Canton.
"You know, we owned this stadium when Art and Darrell got in," Snyder said later that night, at the party he hosted for Russ Grimm. "With Emmitt and Jerry Rice, we didn't own it today. But we will again."
By Dan Steinberg | August 9, 2010; 2:46 PM ET
Commanders=jealous *****es...as always
Stupid is as stupid says. Enlightment was easily within his grasp (internet) but yet, he still chose to play the roll of a fool.
That's what sportsmanship is all about. Some people take things too serious.
