Board Question: The Sack Category

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Just some thought for possible creative applications...

The sack has given something to the NFL, that a homerun serves as an identifying element to baseball.

It gives exciement and something to follow along with in the sport.

Sometimes, there are sacks, that are a little in the 'trash' category, just as in baseball, there seem to be some 'cheap' homeruns as well.

But on the counter, it seems to be used as a negative to berate a different but contributory skillset as well.

Compared to baseball, does one rush to put down a singles or doubles hitter on a team?

In the NFL, what about a player that contributes in quarterback pressures?

Where does that skillset set?
 
CCBoy;4612546 said:
Just some thought for possible creative applications...

The sack has given something to the NFL, that a homerun serves as an identifying element to baseball.

It gives exciement and something to follow along with in the sport.

Sometimes, there are sacks, that are a little in the 'trash' category, just as in baseball, there seem to be some 'cheap' homeruns as well.

But on the counter, it seems to be used as a negative to berate a different but contributory skillset as well.

Compared to baseball, does one rush to put down a singles or doubles hitter on a team?

In the NFL, what about a player that contributes in quarterback pressures?

Where does that skillset set?


In baseball, it depends on other stats. If a guy is not a home run hitter, then it depends on if he is a leadoff hitter, does he play good denfense, and what type of hitter he is. OBP is a BIG stat in baseball.
 
CCBoy;4612546 said:
Just some thought for possible creative applications...

The sack has given something to the NFL, that a homerun serves as an identifying element to baseball.

It gives exciement and something to follow along with in the sport.

Sometimes, there are sacks, that are a little in the 'trash' category, just as in baseball, there seem to be some 'cheap' homeruns as well.

But on the counter, it seems to be used as a negative to berate a different but contributory skillset as well.

Compared to baseball, does one rush to put down a singles or doubles hitter on a team?

In the NFL, what about a player that contributes in quarterback pressures?

Where does that skillset set?
I would compare the sacks to homeruns and pressures to doubles. Both are very important. More pressures leads to forced errors (turnovers), while more doubles leads to more runs.
 
Any stat can be misleading.

Like RBs and YPC.

You can have 2 backs with the same YPC and one consistently hits that mark but has few long runs, the other has a bunch of no gains and negative carries and than hits a long one.

To me I like the all around guys better than the specialists. Give me a player that is good at a lot of things but not considered the best at any over the guy that dominates a category but fails in many.
 
This was a verbatim conversation on NFL Network yesterday. Maybe you should credit your source.
 
Kilyin;4612779 said:
This was a verbatim conversation on NFL Network yesterday. Maybe you should credit your source.

Really?

CCBoy;4612546 said:
But on the counter, it seems to be used as a negative to berate a different but contributory skillset as well.

Where does that skillset set?
:confused:
 
superpunk;4612780 said:

Yeah, it was. The OP is the only poster I've put on ignore on this board, because he is one of those people that likes to pretend to sound smart by gobbledy****ing threads to death and pretty much nothing he posts ever makes a lick of sense. Just makes things easier. Can't ignore quotes though!
 
Kilyin;4612793 said:
Yeah, it was. The OP is the only poster I've put on ignore on this board, because he is one of those people that likes to pretend to sound smart by gobbledy****ing threads to death and pretty much nothing he posts ever makes a lick of sense. Just makes things easier. Can't ignore quotes though!
It was the verbatim that got me. I haven't had cable for a while just surprised that they talk like that on NFL Network now. ;)
 
superpunk;4612796 said:
It was the verbatim that got me. I haven't had cable for a while just surprised that they talk like that on NFL Network now. ;)

Oh, well I meant the general gist of the topic, maybe the first few sentences. My bad.
 
Kilyin;4612801 said:
Oh, well I meant the general gist of the topic, maybe the first few sentences. My bad.

Stay on blockout...stud.

You missed the point, and it was the topic of where the value was in a view of sacks, pressures, quarterback hits, and why teams even bother to consider them.

No one is trying to look any way, but determined to stand up to such preppie interludes as you...merely meandering through topical discussion to act like a newly appointed hall monitor...SON.

By the way, do you daily acknowledge that YOUR parents wiped your butt continually up until recently?

No, tadpole, the concept involved was the relevant element..not your rushing to ring tap and bellow that you had seen something similar on the NFL channle. Guess what, blowhart, a lot of people can't afford that..and your sense of copyright infringement doesn't include talking about a topical area...relevant for THIS board.

Now bellow yourself into oblivion...and by all means, DON'T repond when you are just merely attempting to move into a prime position by the burn barrel.


Toodles....:shoot5:

If you don't like me, or my postings, then shut up...as a circle jerk pompously stating there was no value, is another thing. You are doing nothing more than trolling and trying to appear prim and proper yourself. When I post a quote, I do just that....if you haven't observed the volume of postings in the New Zone...dumb arse.
 
anj113;4613380 said:
I think sacks at crucial times are so more important...

That is a given. Lol. It's kind of similar to defining what a clutch player is in baseball. Does a reliever qualify as well, instead of a homerun hitter?
 
CCBoy;4612546 said:
In the NFL, what about a player that contributes in quarterback pressures?

Where does that skillset set?
I like negative plays and drive stoppers. Sacks are great for loss of yards and put the offense in desperate situations sometimes. Gotta love those. If you get a forced fumble with it, even better.

Pressures can work the same way, if enough pressure is put on you get errant throws. Makes for good drive stoppers and hopefully some turnovers. I think qb pressures are under rated. They can be very valuable.
 
67CowboysFan;4613569 said:
I like negative plays and drive stoppers. Sacks are great for loss of yards and put the offense in desperate situations sometimes. Gotta love those. If you get a forced fumble with it, even better.

Pressures can work the same way, if enough pressure is put on you get errant throws. Makes for good drive stoppers and hopefully some turnovers. I think qb pressures are under rated. They can be very valuable.

what is a pressure to One QB is not to another

(David Carr vs Tom Brady)

it is totally subjective which is one reason it is not an official stat
 

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