Bob McGinn: NFL Scout & Executive comments on Cowboys

[HeavyBarrel]

Cool article. Sucks that we have to have a Milwaukee journalist write it. If only dfw had a large number of journalists covering the cowboys, if only...

IMHO the single best "sports guy" in DFW is lifelong Packer fan (and our own) Bob Sturm......

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Guess you guys didn't see the part where they said our DL guys wouldn't start on 25 other rosters...

A tear is about to fall...nah, not worth it.

 

[Risen Star]

"There's not really a guy (at DE) who could start for 20-25 other teams."

Lawrence too?

You guys gonna just take that?

 

[icup]

"There's not really a guy (at DE) who could start for 20-25 other teams."

Lawrence too?

You guys gonna just take that?

we can take it. but lawrence's back can't.

 

[Risen Star]

Once we identify that scout he'll suffer major scratches and handfuls of hair ripped from his scalp.

 

[jazzcat22]

Then since GB will need to game plan for Irving, that means another player may be lost on their game plan and step up also.

 

[Longboysfan]

Guess you guys didn't see the part where they said our DL guys wouldn't start on 25 other rosters...

Are those the rosters of the teams sitting home watching up play this Sunday?

 

[RS12]

"There's not really a guy (at DE) who could start for 20-25 other teams."

Lawrence too?

You guys gonna just take that?

Pretty much.

 

[RS12]

“Mayowa brings some edge presence. He’s an athletic guy. He doesn’t scare me that much. Him against (David) Bakhtiari, it should be ‘shutdown city.’ ”

Under third-year defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli, the Cowboys ranked 19th in sack percentage. At the same time, they finished fifth in points allowed (19.1) and 14th in yards (343.9).

“I’m telling you, Rod Marinelli is a stud,” said one scout. “Not as a coordinator. I’m saying as someone working with players and motivating them. They get better. He will get the most out of them.”


I found this to be fairly intersting.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

. “Real nice body. Big and long"

Was Risen one of the "scouts" here?

 

[RS12]

When the season (started) I didn’t think he was in sync with (Dak) Prescott,” said one executive. “It’s hard to say it but he was almost a detriment. I think he’s kind of fallen into place.

“He was maybe the most physically gifted receiver I have ever scouted. Or right behind Calvin Johnson. Thing he doesn’t do, he’s not a detailed guy.

“Can he dominate against (LaDarius) Gunter? Yes. That’s a big mismatch. He still has it.”

This too.

 

[RS12]

Could Clay Matthews disrupt the Cowboys’ offense at the expense of Smith?

“No,” replied one scout. “That’s not a shot on Matthews. But Smith is pretty good.”

Right tackle Doug Free, a graduate of Manitowoc High School, is a seven-year starter and, at 33, isn’t as limber as he once was.

“He’s had his moments where guys have gotten up-field on him,” one personnel man said. “It’s not where you say, ‘Hey, we’ve got to go after this guy, he’s a weak link.’ They’re all big and physical. (Free) would still be a starter on pretty much 31 other teams.”

Another scout said Free has showed no signs of falloff as he prepares to face Julius Peppers. “That matchup is the Packers’ best chance,” he said.

Those scouts are pretty accurate.

 

[perrykemp]

Bob McGinn is famous for his unique access to NFL scouts and executives across the league.

His draft previews are gold for that reason.

 

[kramskoi]

I will certainly take another performance where he has a sack, three forced fumbles (leading to some turnovers) and a batted pass.

 

[vlad]

We got Sturm.

I did really like the x and o video chat on that page. I wish we could get some more meat and potatoes like that.

Yeah, Sturm is the man. Broaddus provides insight as well. I was more referring to, well most everyone else. I actually wonder, not because I'm saying they aren't doing work, but based on the content we see that these journalists put out - what the hell do they do all day long?

 

[T-RO]

Yeah, Sturm is the man. Broaddus provides insight as well. I was more referring to, well most everyone else. I actually wonder, not because I'm saying they aren't doing work, but based on the content we see that these journalists put out - what the hell do they do all day long?

I've sure wondered the same thing! I've seen a vast number of posts by some of our stout writers here at the zone that are better than what we get from the (false) newspapers. And what did they take to write...15 minutes? 45 minutes?

They likely sit around in meetings for half the day...can't get enough of those important lectures on diversity and sensitivity in the workplace. Then...another few hours watching online porn, I suppose. LOL.

 

[Setackin]

Anyone realize lighting McQueen from cars is number 95 and has a signature lighting bolt. A lot like Irving (95) and his blonde strick... There is a nickname there lol

 

[LocimusPrime]

GREEN BAY – At the start of training camp David Irving might have ranked ninth or 10th on the Dallas Cowboys’ ordinary defensive line.

When the Cowboys meet the Green Bay Packers on Sunday in an NFC divisional playoff game, Irving probably is their best defensive lineman.

At least that was the opinion of two executives in personnel who have studied the Cowboys all season.

“He’s playing at a high level,” one personnel man said. “Done a nice job over the last month of the season. He’s been a one-man wrecking show in a lot of instances.”

Eight defensive linemen logged more playing time than Irving on Oct. 16 in the Cowboys’ 30-16 victory at Lambeau Field. Irving, 6 feet 7½ inches and 285 pounds, made the most of his 19 snaps by forcing three fumbles (two by Aaron Rodgers, one by Ty Montgomery), tying the team record.

Before that game, Irving hadn’t been much of a factor. However, in the last five games, he has notched 14 of his team-high pressure total.

Irving usually plays left end in the 4-3 defense and tackle on passing downs. He needs a ton of work playing the run inside, but with 35 7/8-inch arms, 10¾-inch hands and 4.84-second speed the raw material is there.

“Not a real quick-twitch guy but he can cause problems just because he can bend for a guy that big,” said another scout. “Real nice body. Big and long.

“I just think the matchups inside for him are a little bit better because he’s not a speed guy. Not saying he can’t win outside, but the matchups and the height and the length make for more of an athletic mismatch against a guard.”

Read the rest here: http://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ing-report-d-lineman-irving-peaking/96398152/

Maybe he's good cause he's not a fast twitch guy. Lol

 

[guag]

Dallas dropped the fewest number of passes (18) of any team

Very interesting, this is the first I've heard this.

 

[guag]

“Elliott is pretty damn good,” said one scout. “He’s helped by the offensive line but sometimes that can be an overused narrative.

“People say, ‘Anybody can run behind that offensive line.’ But you watch Darren McFadden, who rushed for 1,000 yards last year, run behind that line and it’s a little bit different. Or Alfred Morris.”

It's nice to hear things like this from people other than Zone forum members. I guess scout actually know what they're talking about sometimes.