Boys return to 2016 form: 5 reasons why they will be back in the playoffs

Idgit

Fattening up
Staff member
Messages
58,971
Reaction score
60,826
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
This team chokes damn near every elimination game. Figure out why that happens because I can't.

It’s because the defense isn’t good enough to stop legitimate top QBs. The offense is only good enough to keep pace.
 

DasSchnitzel

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,140
Reaction score
4,265
It’s because the defense isn’t good enough to stop legitimate top QBs. The offense is only good enough to keep pace.

I disagree about the offense. For years now it's been pretty great when not missing key players (Tyron, Zeke, Romo before he retired).

Defense has been an improving unit for a while now in my opinion but you're right, not there yet and haven't been for a while. Though to be fair there were some games where they handled top tier QBS for a long time but then the offense choked and kept the def out there too long.
 

Bleu Star

Bye Felicia!
Messages
33,925
Reaction score
19,920
I'm glad to see this post getting a little love. E sure I feel very good about our chances to finally make a deep playoff run this year.
 

DiResta

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,590
Reaction score
5,530
Expect a 50-60% turnover for the playoffs........as usual
i think they said today 45 of the 90 guys on the roster are new
only 3 of the roster are over 30 and besides Lee the other 2 are special teams
the Coaches watch these guys every day and dont know how their roster will look in August
anybody (myself included obviously) that thinks they can project season win/loss percentages is guessing
 

DasSchnitzel

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,140
Reaction score
4,265
i think they said today 45 of the 90 guys on the roster are new
only 3 of the roster are over 30 and besides Lee the other 2 are special teams
the Coaches watch these guys every day and dont know how their roster will look in August
anybody (myself included obviously) that thinks they can project season win/loss percentages is guessing

45 out of 90 are new but most of the starters and first men up are familiar faces. Teams probably have 27 new out of 90 every year because you can only carry 53 on your roster and I think 10 on PS. So it's not that hard to predict the bulk of this roster and how it'll work. Give me a link to the list of 90 and I'll make a prediction right now and we can check it in September.

The passing game is the only question mark without Witten or Dez and all these new faces. Personally I think the passing game is a question mark by design - the complimentary skill sets of all these route runners gives Linehan and Dak a tool box to get creative with every week.

Last year I called 9-7 though my reasoning wasn't correct. This year I haven't decided yet so my official prediction is on hold, but I'll take an early guess at 10-6.
 

jobberone

Kane Ala
Messages
54,219
Reaction score
19,659
i think they said today 45 of the 90 guys on the roster are new
only 3 of the roster are over 30 and besides Lee the other 2 are special teams
the Coaches watch these guys every day and dont know how their roster will look in August
anybody (myself included obviously) that thinks they can project season win/loss percentages is guessing

We were talking team turnover for the playoffs on a yearly basis but I liked your post. Had no idea we turned personnel over that much.
 

DiResta

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,590
Reaction score
5,530
45 out of 90 are new but most of the starters and first men up are familiar faces. Teams probably have 27 new out of 90 every year because you can only carry 53 on your roster and I think 10 on PS. So it's not that hard to predict the bulk of this roster and how it'll work. Give me a link to the list of 90 and I'll make a prediction right now and we can check it in September.

The passing game is the only question mark without Witten or Dez and all these new faces. Personally I think the passing game is a question mark by design - the complimentary skill sets of all these route runners gives Linehan and Dak a tool box to get creative with every week.

Last year I called 9-7 though my reasoning wasn't correct. This year I haven't decided yet so my official prediction is on hold, but I'll take an early guess at 10-6.
take wr for example
yeah we could say Beas and Hurst etc are guys that are locks but we dont know where they will predominantly line up or how they will share snaps, we dont know if Dak will develop some crazy connection with Tavon or Gallup
we dont know if that guy can stay healthy

theres too many unknowns right now to predict a teams playoff chances sorry
 

DasSchnitzel

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,140
Reaction score
4,265
take wr for example
yeah we could say Beas and Hurst etc are guys that are locks but we dont know where they will predominantly line up or how they will share snaps, we dont know if Dak will develop some crazy connection with Tavon or Gallup
we dont know if that guy can stay healthy

theres too many unknowns right now to predict a teams playoff chances sorry

I conceded that the passing game was something we needed to wait and see about. You haven't brought anything up but the one thing I already conceded.

You said Beasley and Hurns are locks. So what you're saying then is that the third WR and target distribution is necessary knowledge to predict a record.

Maybe you can't make a prediction over something so specific, but I can. I can make one that's as sound as any other regular season record prediction made in May, anyway.
 

DiResta

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,590
Reaction score
5,530
I conceded that the passing game was something we needed to wait and see about. You haven't brought anything up but the one thing I already conceded.

You said Beasley and Hurns are locks. So what you're saying then is that the third WR and target distribution is necessary knowledge to predict a record.

Maybe you can't make a prediction over something so specific, but I can. I can make one that's as sound as any other regular season record prediction made in May, anyway.
im going to be honest
i tend to miss many posts in this forums format and if you conceded something i didnt see it
i just picked receivers "for example" coincidentally in my post but now im starting to think i stepped into some debate that i missed the subject of
so ill just let myself out but as to the original post which was '5 reasons why the Cowboys return to 2016 form and the playoffs'
if you can pick playoff teams in May and arent a multimillionaire you are missing out
 

DasSchnitzel

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,140
Reaction score
4,265
im going to be honest
i tend to miss many posts in this forums format and if you conceded something i didnt see it
i just picked receivers "for example" coincidentally in my post but now im starting to think i stepped into some debate that i missed the subject of
so ill just let myself out but as to the original post which was '5 reasons why the Cowboys return to 2016 form and the playoffs'
if you can pick playoff teams in May and arent a multimillionaire you are missing out

I made my original comment about the passing game in my one post on the topic, which is the one you quoted and were responding to directly.

In that response you flat-out called me wrong, so wrong you felt the need to apologize. So you're arguing with someone without even reading their point of view and then calling them wrong.

I too will see myself out of this back-and-forth, though I'll be more honest and simply say I don't see a point to it.
 

DasSchnitzel

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,140
Reaction score
4,265
learning the increased intensity and young team

It's been happening a lot longer than this roster has been young. Don't forget the week 17 win-and-in elimination games.

You aren't wrong though that's probably part of it nowadays
 

Bleu Star

Bye Felicia!
Messages
33,925
Reaction score
19,920
take wr for example
yeah we could say Beas and Hurst etc are guys that are locks but we dont know where they will predominantly line up or how they will share snaps, we dont know if Dak will develop some crazy connection with Tavon or Gallup
we dont know if that guy can stay healthy

theres too many unknowns right now to predict a teams playoff chances sorry
I know.
 
Top