Brady Quinn, JaMarcus Russell, and Calvin Johnson's first day as a Pro

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POSTED 7:40 a.m. EDT, May 5, 2007
BRADY THROWS SOME "WOUNDED DUCKS"

Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that quarterback Brady Quinn's first practice with the Browns featured some of the accuracy problems that kept him on the board for 21 picks last Saturday.

Writes Grossi: "It did not go unnoticed by the inflated media throng on hand that Quinn threw consecutive balls into a brisk wind that could be described charitably as wounded ducks. Each ball looked to hit a brick wall in midair and plummet, one far short of the intended and uncovered receiver."
Per Grossi, Quinn compensated for the wind on the next try . . . by overthrowing the receiver.
 

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Gryphon;1488774 said:
POSTED 7:40 a.m. EDT, May 5, 2007
BRADY THROWS SOME "WOUNDED DUCKS"

Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that quarterback Brady Quinn's first practice with the Browns featured some of the accuracy problems that kept him on the board for 21 picks last Saturday.

Writes Grossi: "It did not go unnoticed by the inflated media throng on hand that Quinn threw consecutive balls into a brisk wind that could be described charitably as wounded ducks. Each ball looked to hit a brick wall in midair and plummet, one far short of the intended and uncovered receiver."
Per Grossi, Quinn compensated for the wind on the next try . . . by overthrowing the receiver.

This guy has bust written all over him. I dont get the love this guy has been getting, like it is a foregone conclusion he is going to be a franchise QB.

I watched almost every Notre Dame game last year and this guy chokes more times than the Beagles!!!

Every big game, Notre Dame got their teeth kicked in. I think most teams were correct on Quinn, he is not a top 10 prospect.
 

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A rookie's first day on the job and he doesn't throw well. Tell me who's surprised by this?
 

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A rookie's first day on the job and he doesn't throw well. Tell me who's surprised by this?

Well you, rookies on their first day, are supposed to perform like all-pro's :) Now I am not a big fan of Quinn or for the matter of fact Russell, but its the typical overreaction. It would have been a major shock, if someone didn't say he is going to be a bust based on first practice.
 

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Why isn't this post in the NFL zone?

I hope we are not going to get Quinn updates all year long.
 

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jay cee;1488788 said:
Why isn't this post in the NFL zone?

I hope we are not going to get Quinn updates all year long.
It's the offseason, so what's allowed to be posted is a little more relaxed...

And considering how much NFL-related, but non-Cowboy stuff is posted, I think it's ok to be here.

And the fact that Quinn is a critical part to Cleveland's success next year or lack thereof, there will be interest.

That said, once the season starts, I'm with you on not seeing his progress being posted in the main forum.
 

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First throw into the wind is short and the second is long - sounds to me like he was zeroing in and adjusting to the wind. I see no problem yet. Maybe later, but not yet.
 

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I am not making a big deal about this, but Cleveland plays outdoors.

Also, I read J. Russell's first practice went smooth. I will post it here if I find it again if anyone cares.
 

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Russell Makes Impression on Raiders
By JOSH DUBOW
AP Sports Writer

ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) -- JaMarcus Russell dropped back and fired a pass though tight coverage that hit fellow rookie Johnathan Holland between the 1 and the 8 on his jersey. The top pick with the rocket arm made an immediate impression on the Oakland Raiders in his first practice Friday.

"I think that kid, 18, is in there getting a rubdown," defensive tackle Warren Sapp said. "Caught that square-in, I bet he's got some markings on his chest. If nothing else, we're going to learn to catch with our hands or somebody's going to the hospital for some trauma. That kid's got a live arm so let's have some fun with it."

Russell's first day of practice showed off the inconsistencies that almost all rookies have when they make the transition to the NFL. He was able to drill spirals through tight coverage, but also fumbled two snaps from center, overthrew Jerry Porter on a deep pass down the sideline and missed the target on some shorter throws.

Even though he didn't get a chance to heave the ball 80 yards like he supposedly is able, Russell's strong arm was the talk of the day among his new teammates.

"It looks like someone hired a JUGS machine and put a jersey on it," Porter said. "Man, he can throw the ball. I see why he's the first overall."

Despite the enthusiasm surrounding Russell's arrival, the Raiders are planning to bring him along gradually and they had him working behind Andrew Walter and Josh McCown in most drills. After almost every throw, one of his coaches or McCown pulled Russell aside to give him a quick piece of advice.

"That speaks to his character. He's a kid who wants to learn," McCown said. "When you get special players like that who have the talent and the will to learn, that's when you get greatness. The sky's the limit for him if he maintains this attitude and continues to learn and be open to grow. I think you'll see him develop rather quickly."

McCown is the most experienced quarterback on the Raiders' roster, having made 22 career starts before being acquired in a draft-day trade from Detroit last weekend. Walter struggled in his first season, going 2-6 as a starter and committing 22 turnovers while throwing just three touchdown passes.

But the two know they are just keeping the starting seat warm until Russell is ready to take over.

"He's special. He's gifted, no question about it," McCown said. "Now it's just about honing his skills. ... We need to help him hone those skills and help him develop into a big-time quarterback because the skills are all there. The arm is unbelievable. He's a terrific kid and he's fun to be around. I look forward to working with him."

Russell went 25-4 as LSU's starting quarterback, capping his career by throwing for 332 yards and two TDs in a 41-14 Sugar Bowl win over Notre Dame. He finished his career with the Tigers by throwing the second most touchdown passes (52) and having the second highest completion percentage (61.9 percent) in school history.

That success combined with a 6-foot-6, 260-pound frame and a rocket arm made Russell the Raiders' choice with the No. 1 pick last week. The Raiders are building their future around the 21-year-old quarterback, hoping he will help transform an offense that scored just 12 touchdowns last season on the way to a 2-14 record.

But his teammates are tempering expectations.

"I think we'll have to have realistic goals for the guy. Everyone else is going to put a lot of pressure on him," receiver Ronald Curry said. "It's just the first day. The playbook is small for everybody. It's tailored down. I don't think you can get a true indication of what he can do right now."
 

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Johnson is just as advertised

Rookie receiver, who is not at 100 percent for up-tempo workout, shows skills

Mike O'Hara | The Detroit News / The Detroit News

ALLEN PARK -- Calvin Johnson was a little under the weather and somewhat overwhelmed by the number of plays he had to learn in a hurry for his first practice with the Lions.

Even with that working against him -- combined with the high tempo demanded by offensive coordinator Mike Martz -- Johnson showed signs of why he was drafted second overall.

"He looked great out there," said quarterback Drew Stanton, drafted in the second round out of Michigan State. "He's everything advertised.

"It's a matter of us getting on the same page and me feeling comfortable with the offense. There are a lot of options for him to do great things."

Johnson's physical ability was evident during the first day of mini-camp Friday. He is 6-foot-5, 239 pounds with speed and exceptional hands.

One quality that stood out in drills that were open to the media was the way Johnson caught. Almost every catch was with his hands with his arms outstretched, as opposed to cradling the ball or trapping it against his body.

"He'll go up and make plays for you," Stanton said. "All those things you want in a receiver, he brings to the table."

Johnson, out of Georgia Tech, knew he'd be in the spotlight because of his draft status and the attention he received in the buildup to the draft. He said he was feeling the effects of a slight virus and isn't close to being in top shape.

But he was satisfied with his first day of practice.

"I knew everybody would have their eyes on me," Johnson said. "It comes with the territory."

Martz is famous for the volume of information he gives his players. The rookies had their first meeting Thursday evening and had to transfer the information to the field Friday morning.

"I'm trying to put everything we talked about in the meetings on the field," Johnson said. "It's easier said than done, trying to smooth everything out. There's a lot to learn. We've only done part of it so far. I'm pretty much catching on to it."

The last few weeks have been a whirlwind for Johnson. He visited teams interested in drafting him and attended the draft in New York. It didn't leave much time for working out.

Johnson said he has done "a decent amount" of training, but he was perspiring heavily after the morning practice.

"We're a little winded out here, the first practice and everything," Johnson said. "We're busting our behind every play. That's another reason everybody's a little winded.

"As the week goes on, we'll get better. You can never simulate as fast a pace as the practice is."

Coach Rod Marinelli didn't expect Johnson or any of the rookies to be in top shape, but Johnson's raw ability stood out.

"The talent level and the skill is exceptional," Marinelli said. "The biggest thing for a lot of the guys is the pace and the tempo. We just want to get him in a groove about what this league is about, what the Detroit Lions are about."

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As expected, Martz has started working on Stanton's mechanics.

"He's really a talented young man," Martz said. "We go back and strip him away from everything and rebuild him. It's hard -- very hard for him."

Martz is changing the quarterback's grip.

"He had a fat hand on the ball," Martz said, referring to the way Stanton lays the ball on his hand. "He kind of pushes it. He's got a live wrist. When he gets the right hand placement, the ball snaps out.

"He had great success doing what he was doing. We can help him even more."

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070505/SPORTS0101/705050329/1004/SPORTS
 

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Browns | Frye remains starting quarterback
Sat, 5 May 2007 08:26:08 -0700

Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns QB Charlie Frye remains the team's starting quarterback, despite the addition of QB Brady Quinn in the NFL Draft, according to head coach Romeo Crennel. "I told Charlie, 'Hey, look, it's your job, you've got a leg up. It's competition, it makes everybody better. Let's go compete,' " Crennel said. "He said he's going to compete."
 

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Brady Quinn Cuts Hair to Appease Joe Theismann
Posted May 5th 2007 11:02AM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Browns, NFL Draft, NFL Gossip, NFL Rumors

Cleveland Browns rookie quarterback Brady Quinn was criticized by Joe Theismann for the way he looked at the NFL draft. If I were Quinn I think I'd tell Theismann exactly where he could stick his opinion of my hair, but Quinn showed up at Cleveland's first minicamp with a new haircut:


Quinn was all the more shocked because the criticism came from Theismann, whom Quinn has met on several occasions. He said he will heed the advice of the former Commanders quarterback.
"Therein the haircut," Quinn said.


For his next public service announcement, I implore Theismann to critique the appearance of Joe Thomas's aunt.
 

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Cleveland Browns' Brady Quinn: When Will He Start?
Posted May 3rd 2007 8:21PM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Browns, NFL Draft, Cleveland

A regular look at when we can expect to see the 2007 rookie quarterback class on the field.

He'll start right away if: He doesn't hold out. There's already been some talk that Quinn and his agent might tell the Browns they think they deserve more money than the 22nd overall pick would ordinarily get. The Browns would likely tell Quinn that they don't see it that way. A lengthy holdout would hinder Quinn's ability to learn Cleveland's offense and delay his development.

He'll hold the clipboard if: Charlie Frye shows some ability to be a professional quarterback in training camp that he hasn't shown so far in two years in the NFL. Romeo Crennel and his staff know they'll be out of a job if they don't turn the team around this season, and if they think they can win with Frye, they'll play him. But what would make them think they can win with Frye?

Most likely scenario: Quinn might not like the contract the Browns offer him, but he knows he has endorsement opportunities coming from his golden boy image, and he doesn't want to tarnish that image by looking like the stereotypical greedy athlete. He'll be in camp on time and earn the starting job.

Projected first start: September 9, 2007. Cleveland plays Week 1 at home against the Steelers, and nothing would get the Dawg Pound fired up more than seeing the quarterback of the future.
 

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Oakland Raiders' JaMarcus Russell: When Will He Start?
Posted May 3rd 2007 3:07PM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Raiders, NFL Draft

A regular look at when we can expect to see the 2007 rookie quarterback class on the field.

He'll start right away if: The Raiders think the offensive line can protect him. Russell was the first pick in the draft in large part because of his size, but he's not big enough to withstand the kind of pounding he'll take if the Raiders' line is as bad as it was last year.

He'll hold the clipboard if: Josh McCown looks competent in training camp. The Raiders traded for McCown during the draft, and they hope McCown plays well enough that they can take their time letting Russell adjust to the pro game.

Most likely scenario: Coach Lane Kiffin will give McCown the nod in September, and the Raiders might even have a winning record early in the season, given that two of their first three games are home dates with Detroit and Cleveland. But at some time in September, the Raiders' offense will look inept, and the cries for the first pick in the draft will be too loud for Kiffin to ignore. He'll hand the job to Russell during the Raiders' Week 5 bye.

Projected first start: October 14, 2007
 

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And we get to play the Lions this year... I can only imagine the posts when CJ goes against our secondary.

I just hope we can get to Kitna after what he said about us last year.
 

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I want Quinn and Cleveland stickied in the fan zone for the next 12 months. It is a management decision, however.
 

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dogberry;1488854 said:
I want Quinn and Cleveland stickied in the fan zone for the next 12 months. It is a management decision, however.
Pipe dreams are allowed for 12 months. Stickys, however, aren't.
 

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Interesting the slant on the two QB pieces. You read carefully and Russell seemed to have just as many problems as quinn had. Maybe quinn had fewer good passes, but he did not fumble any. BUT if you went by the headline Quinn stank and Russell was great. Surely there should be more expected of the FIRST PLAYER taken in the draft?
 

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burmafrd;1488987 said:
Interesting the slant on the two QB pieces. You read carefully and Russell seemed to have just as many problems as quinn had. Maybe quinn had fewer good passes, but he did not fumble any. BUT if you went by the headline Quinn stank and Russell was great. Surely there should be more expected of the FIRST PLAYER taken in the draft?
give it up burma. the teams have spoken, and now it is time for the players to determine who is better.

No need to try and slant it to fit your view.
 
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