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Picking off a QB
Surplus of talent in SD might give Jets Brees or Rivers in '06
BY KEN BERGER
STAFF WRITER

November 3, 2005

Drew Brees has heard the rumors. So has Philip Rivers.

Chances are good one of them will be available in the offseason, when the Jets' search for a starting quarterback will heat up.

The Jets (2-5) face Brees and the Chargers (4-4) Sunday at Giants Stadium, so the questions for Brees were only natural.

Speaking on a conference call with New York reporters yesterday, Brees put the Chargers on notice to make a long-term commitment to him or let him go somewhere else. The Jets would be waiting with open arms. "At the end of the year, I definitely want a commitment," Brees said.

"That's the most important thing. I want to be somewhere where I'm wanted, where they believe in me and I'm the guy. I hope that's here. But if it's not, I'll go somewhere else and I'll land on my feet."

The Chargers' quarterback situation is as strange as the Jets', but for different reasons. After acquiring Rivers, the fourth overall pick, from the Giants in 2004, the Chargers watched Brees resurrect his career by leading San Diego to the AFC West title. It created a problem: Stick with Brees or hand the reins to the unproven Rivers, who's taken only 30 snaps in the NFL? The Chargers placed the dreaded franchise tag on Brees this season, which allowed them to avoid making a long-term commitment to him. But at some point, they have to decide which one is their quarterback of the future.

"That's a decision that will be arrived at . . . down the road," Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer said yesterday. "We're not going to spend any time visiting it now."

Asked if he believes he and Rivers will be in San Diego again next season, Brees said, "Oh, heck no. It just doesn't make any sense.

"Crazier things have happened, so I won't say that it won't happen. But let's be logical about the whole thing."

When asked if he believes the Chargers will choose him over Rivers in the offseason, Brees said, "I envision myself here forever. If that doesn't happen, I'll be prepared for the next step."

The Jets may prefer Brees to Rivers because they will need an experienced quarterback ready to wrest the starting job from Chad Pennington right away. But either one would be a costly acquisition.

If he's franchised again at a base salary of $9.7 million next season, Brees could be dealt to the Jets, who would then sign him to a long-term deal. That's problematic, considering they've already paid Pennington $22 million for starting 18 games. Pennington, who has the same agent as Brees, also is due another $3-million roster bonus in March - probably before he's even ready to begin throwing again after his latest rotator cuff operation.

"I'm sure we would both compete our butts off and I'm sure that we would be great friends," said Brees, who first met Pennington at a college All-America function when he was at Purdue and Pennington was at Marshall.

Rivers will be in the third year of a seven-year contract next season at a manageable base salary of $615,000. But it would take a formidable package of draft picks and/or a top-flight player to persuade the Chargers to trade him. Another complicating factor is that trading Rivers would result in a $10-million salary-cap hit for the Chargers.

Jets coach Herman Edwards spoke fondly of Brees yesterday, saying he doesn't get enough credit for the success of the Chargers' offense. The question now becomes: What does Brees have to do the rest of this season to keep his job? "Who knows what's going to happen at the end of this year?" Brees said. "Obviously, one of us is going to be here and one of us is not."
 

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This is the "project" I want the Cowboys to go after. Not guys who have been playing baseball for several years. I want the guy who was a legit 1st round pick, hasn't done anything to prove he shouldn't have been in his limited playing stints, and for whatever reason, might be out of a job. If the Cowboys can get Rivers on the cheap, go for it!
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
This is the "project" I want the Cowboys to go after. Not guys who have been playing baseball for several years. I want the guy who was a legit 1st round pick, hasn't done anything to prove he shouldn't have been in his limited playing stints, and for whatever reason, might be out of a job. If the Cowboys can get Rivers on the cheap, go for it!

He won't come on the cheap, and getting players on the cheap has been our #1 problem at that position.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
This is the "project" I want the Cowboys to go after. Not guys who have been playing baseball for several years. I want the guy who was a legit 1st round pick, hasn't done anything to prove he shouldn't have been in his limited playing stints, and for whatever reason, might be out of a job. If the Cowboys can get Rivers on the cheap, go for it!


Why would San Diego give up Rivers "on the cheap?" This year's QB draft class (with the exception of Leinart) is projected to be weak unless some of the juniors come out early. There are a number of teams who will be looking for QB help next season. I can't see any reasonable scenario where 'on the cheap' happens.
 

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lspain1 said:
Why would San Diego give up Rivers "on the cheap?" This year' QB draft class (with the exception of Leinart) is projected to be weak unless some of the juniors come out early. There are a number of teams who will be looking for QB help next season. I can't see any reasonable scenario where 'on the cheap' happens.

On the cheap being trading a 1st round pick that was much lower than the Chargers had to give up. I have no idea what teams will pony up for him. Lot of good QBs in the draft his year. Teams may look there instead.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
On the cheap being trading a 1st round pick that was much lower than the Chargers had to give up. I have no idea what teams will pony up for him. Lot of good QBs in the draft his year. Teams may look there instead.


Your opinion on this year's QBs is very different from that of Mel Kiper. And we all know Kiper is a veritable draft day guru :rolleyes:
 

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Brees is having another very good year, which is pretty much laying the thought to rest that he was a one year wonder. And he is doing it against as tough a schedule as any team has faced this season. Baring a collapse, I think that he will be the man.
So that leaves the Rivers situation. He is not experienced, so he is not good for the back up position, even if he wanted to stay that way. So he wants out if he is not going to get a shot at being the starting QB, and the way Brees has been playing why would any coach give him that shot- its a sharp stick in the eye of your starting QB, of whom you have not treated that well anyway. So that means that Rivers is on the trading block. The question is- who wants him and how much do they want to spend in money and picks. The upside is that youknow more about him then any rookie QB coming in fresh from college. The downside is that he is certainly not proven. Certainly warrants a #1 pick, but how much more? And he will want an expensive contract- but that is always negotiable.
 

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Your opinion on this year's QBs is very different from that of Mel Kiper. And we all know Kiper is a veritable draft day guru :rolleyes:

Kiper has no QBs in the top 50? I usually see 4 or 5 at least on most lists. Lot of interesting projects like Young and McNeal who you wonder if they can do anything in NFL.
 

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Either one would look good with star on their helmet.....my concern, would either be happy waiting on Bledsoe to retire....because, the way Bledsoe is playing.....BP has not reason not to play him
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
This is the "project" I want the Cowboys to go after. Not guys who have been playing baseball for several years. I want the guy who was a legit 1st round pick, hasn't done anything to prove he shouldn't have been in his limited playing stints, and for whatever reason, might be out of a job. If the Cowboys can get Rivers on the cheap, go for it!

Please, if coaches wanted to change Henson's delivery, what the heck are they going to do with Rivers funky delivery? Totally destroy him?

I mean Henson was doing just fine with his delivery,which wasn't totally sidearm type like Rivers. But they still went and messed with that and now Henson is way back from where he was last year. I have never seens coaches send a player back like that.

Besides, Rivers hasn't exactly been impressive even in pre-season. Not worth the money he would require. If he was available in FA, then its one thing. I strongly doubt Cowboys will go after any QB in FA or trade. Maybe in draft, but thats about it. I will eat crow if Cowboys go for a QB via trade especially.
 

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I would wait for Brady Quinn. He probably will be most ready to play at the pro level because of Weis.
 

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Brees is staying in SD - you just don't jettison a good young QB for an unproven product - regardless of where he was drafted or what you gave up.

Rivers will not come cheap -- He's been learning in a pro offense with a good coaching staff for two years. SD paid a massive SB to him so his contact will have reduced cap implications for the team trading for him. He's been developed ideally, he can step in and be a starter next year -- he doesn't need another year on the pine.

We can't afford him. Whoever gets Rivers is going to have to give up multiple first day picks -- my guess would be two 1's -- and a good player - likely a young WR. SD really hit the jackpot here -- they parlayed Eli Manning into a bunch of extra picks -- and now it looks like they are going to get some more -- that trade is going to be huge for them.
 

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Brees is staying in SD - you just don't jettison a good young QB for an unproven product - regardless of where he was drafted or what you gave up.

Rivers will not come cheap -- He's been learning in a pro offense with a good coaching staff for two years. SD paid a massive SB to him so his contact will have reduced cap implications for the team trading for him. He's been developed ideally, he can step in and be a starter next year -- he doesn't need another year on the pine.

We can't afford him. Whoever gets Rivers is going to have to give up multiple first day picks -- my guess would be two 1's -- and a good player - likely a young WR. SD really hit the jackpot here -- they parlayed Eli Manning into a bunch of extra picks -- and now it looks like they are going to get some more -- that trade is going to be huge for them.

Me, I say they break even, after they sold their soul for Leaf.
 
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