Brian Schottenheimer mentioned moving several offensive linemen around, including Cooper Beebe

Who is playing center when Beebe is getting reps at guard? Hoffman I suppose.

The offense is only running like 10 snaps a session, so, as far as we know, this was Beebe getting three snaps at guard, lol.

Could this be them working to keep Hoffman active? Maybe just trying to find a way to get them both snaps at different positions.
 
I'm guessing this is a lot of nothing, but it is interesting. I'm assuming its in case of being forced to bump out Smith to Tackle? Maybe they like Beebe better at Guard with Hoffman at Center? Personally I'd be a big fan of bumping Beebe out. I know a lot of people are skeptical he can do it because of his arm length, but I really like his profile at G.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
I'm guessing this is a lot of nothing, but it is interesting. I'm assuming its in case of being forced to bump out Smith to Tackle? Maybe they like Beebe better at Guard with Hoffman at Center? Personally I'd be a big fan of bumping Beebe out. I know a lot of people are skeptical he can do it because of his arm length, but I really like his profile at G.
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One of my main center concerns is how well he maintain the offensive line 'V' integrity on passing downs after the snap. Both sides of the offensive line folds inward at the snap from defensive pressure, with the center at the point of the angle.

A stout center will hold their ground longer. He buys more time for the quarterback to scan the field in front of him, plus or minus 35 degrees to his left and right. The quarterback's pocket directly in front of him should always be the cleanest in getting this done.

For me, I would question which player best accomplishes that task at center: Cooper Beebe or Brock Hoffman? In my opinion, it is Beebe. I will change my opinion if Hoffman can demonstrate he can keep defenders from getting closer into Dak Prescott's face more routinely than Beebe.
 
Kwyn said:
Who is playing center when Beebe is getting reps at guard? Hoffman I suppose.

The offense is only running like 10 snaps a session, so, as far as we know, this was Beebe getting three snaps at guard, lol.

Could this be them working to keep Hoffman active? Maybe just trying to find a way to get them both snaps at different positions.
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I heard they are resigning Ezekiel Elliott to play Center.
 
Kwyn said:
Who is playing center when Beebe is getting reps at guard? Hoffman I suppose.

The offense is only running like 10 snaps a session, so, as far as we know, this was Beebe getting three snaps at guard, lol.

Could this be them working to keep Hoffman active? Maybe just trying to find a way to get them both snaps at different positions.
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Hoffman should be the swing G/C on gane day. He’s a decent player who plays hard and can play both positions
 
I regularly come up with ideas for out-of-the-box plays and strategies and this reminds me of one I have had for years.

The idea would be to train your center and both guards as center/snappers and guards.

Then on some plays (not every play), when the defensive personnel match up poorly against it, you shift the offensive line to the left or right and make one of the guards the new center.

If you really wanted to get cute about it, you could do the shift at the line after a QB call as long as the line resets.

The line stays in the same order/formation, so it goes from T-G-C-G-T to B-T-G-C-T or T-C-G-T-B .. (T = tackle, C = center, G = guard, B = blocker).

It would be a way of overloading the line to one side without requiring any personnel changes which means the referees would not give the defense time to substitute.

Depending whether you shift to the weak side or the strong side, it could create confusion for the defense even after they see you run it.

It would still require good play calling to capitalize on it, but I often wonder about strategies like that.
 
Reality said:
I regularly come up with ideas for out-of-the-box plays and strategies and this reminds me of one I have had for years.

The idea would be to train your center and both guards as center/snappers and guards.

Then on some plays (not every play), when the defensive personnel match up poorly against it, you shift the offensive line to the left or right and make one of the guards the new center.

If you really wanted to get cute about it, you could do the shift at the line after a QB call as long as the line resets.

The line stays in the same order/formation, so it goes from T-G-C-G-T to B-T-G-C-T or T-C-G-T-B .. (T = tackle, C = center, G = guard, B = blocker).

It would be a way of overloading the line to one side without requiring any personnel changes which means the referees would not give the defense time to substitute.

Depending whether you shift to the weak side or the strong side, it could create confusion for the defense even after they see you run it.

It would still require good play calling to capitalize on it, but I often wonder about strategies like that.
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you can get too cute

one of my few beefs with Landry was that he sometimes tried cute when pure power would have worked better

and I think that was one of the reasons we had so much trouble with pure power teams like the Steelers and the Skins under Gibbs
 
gtb1943 said:
you can get too cute

one of my few beefs with Landry was that he sometimes tried cute when pure power would have worked better

and I think that was one of the reasons we had so much trouble with pure power teams like the Steelers and the Skins under Gibbs
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I don't like regular trick plays either, at least not as a common tactic and not when most of the trickery is in the backfield or requires several players touching the ball.

I think the main problem with the Cowboys trick plays over the Garrett and McCarthy years was defined by horizontal trickery, usually involving 2 or more exchanges of the ball.

I think situation trick plays can be effective though as long as you don't require multiple steps to execute perfectly.

I prefer simple shift-based or personnel swap tactics such as the shift I mentioned as well as the Eagles "tush push" becaue they are less cute and more of an extension of your normal offense.

Normally, the defense counters their substitutions based on the offense substititions, but when a team puts their base offense on the field and then alters their deployment, it forces the defense to counter with their already-on-the-field personnel who may not be best suited to deal with it. Otherwise, it forces the defense to call/waste a timeout.

It really comes down to match-ups. You want to have an advantage over the defense and one of the best ways to do that is find a way to deploy your already-on-the-field personnel in a different manner than the defense expects or can handle.
 
It makes sense to use this time of year to look at different combinations to see what possible permutations they can all yield as far as overall offensive line play. But is there anyone among us who thought that Beebe would line up or play anywhere but center in 2025?
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That would be NO.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
I'm guessing this is a lot of nothing, but it is interesting. I'm assuming its in case of being forced to bump out Smith to Tackle? Maybe they like Beebe better at Guard with Hoffman at Center? Personally I'd be a big fan of bumping Beebe out. I know a lot of people are skeptical he can do it because of his arm length, but I really like his profile at G.
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My thoughts as well. They might like the idea of hottman at center and beebe at G better than any of the 99 guards they signed playing if they have to bump smith out to LT.
 
Im ready for the pads to come on and see this interior OL go up against Mazi Osi, Thomas and Toia. Both sides are young and need some reps

We will see what Guyton has learned real quick going up against Micah, Fowler, Eze, and Kneeland
 
I think this is a good idea at this point in time. But once training camp starts, the experimentation should stop and the best guys at each position should get the snaps and focus on the season.
 
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