Briefly why Joneses should have Romo at top of their list, and why Tony should listen

[KJJ]

No, the fact that I need a definition is to know what you’re arguing.

The fact of the matter is, you have zero clue whether or not Romo is someone who can be respected as a coach and someone who players would be willing to fight for. That would be far more dependent upon how he well he can perform the most important duties of the job, one of which I’d not your subjective interpretation of what classifies someone as a “leader of men” based on your anti-Romo cognitive distortions.

It’s pretty obvious what I’m arguing and you’re the only one who can’t comprehend. I have better things to do than to educate you on what’s a leader.

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

I'll just agree with a lot of other posters. Romo has no need or incentive to be the coach. He makes more money than Jerral would ever pay and has 10% of the headache. He plays golf every day and the coaching gig is 24/7.

Not gonna happen.

 

[beware_d-ware]

I could see tony as a QB coach easily.
OC? maybe.
HC? only a fool appoints a person who has never been a HC anywhere to be a HC. HUGE risk
Sure it has occaionally worked out but most of the time it does not

Not that he'd ever take the job, but I agree that Romo would make a great QB coach. He knows ball, communicates it effortlessly, and he's relatable to players.

Offensive coordinator... maybe right after he retired. He was checking out of a LOT of JG crap by 2013-14, so I think he could playcall a full game. I don't think he has ever prepped a gameplan though, and offensive strategy in general has moved on by 10 years since he left.

HC is a pipe dream.

 

[SultanOfSix]

It’s pretty obvious what I’m arguing and you’re the only one who can’t comprehend. I have better things to do than to educate you on what’s a leader.

LOL. Like you're the person who came up with a definition of "leader of men" and therefore the person who is qualified to speak on the matter and you just didn't pull some presuppositions out of your backside.

This is the extent of what you said, "Bellichick and Landry are leaders of men because they are but Romo isn't because he isn't".

 

[KJJ]

This is the extent of what you said, "Bellichick and Landry are leaders of men because they are but Romo isn't because he isn't".

Those are your words not mine. You’re just looking to argue and toss insults. Your MO never changes. Go waste someone else’s time.

 

[CCBoy]

Knowing enough to explain what occurs is not leadership on the carpet level.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Those are your words not mine. You’re just looking to argue and toss insults. Go waste someone else’s time.

Yep. But the meaning of those words specify the implications of all that you have said.

Like I said, "you have zero clue whether or not Romo is someone who can be respected as a coach and someone who players would be willing to fight for" (which is what is entailed by your used meaning of "leader of men" as what constitutes such attributes).

What you really mean is Landry and Bellichick have won SBs as coaches but Romo hasn't (and I dislike him), therefore he can't be a "leader of men".

 

[KJJ]

Yep. But the meaning of those words specify the implications of all that you have said.

Like I said, "you have zero clue whether or not Romo is someone who can be respected as a coach and someone who players would be willing to fight for" (which is what is entailed by your used meaning of "leader of men" as what constitutes such attributes).

What you really mean is Landry and Bellichick have won SBs as coaches but Romo hasn't (and I dislike him), therefore he can't be a "leader of men".

Zzzzzz

 

[America's Cowboy]

 

[Runwildboys]

Interesting idea. Tony has the perfect job now. And makes a ton more money than Jerry would offer. Hard to see him leaving that for the grind of a HC. The time commitment alone would probably be a deal breaker. He has a young family and would he sacrifice so much time away from them? Unlikely.

Not to mention all the time it would take away from golf!

 

[plasticman]

I know you live in a social media world ,but you're wrong you're getting your information from Twitter/FB/SM/HERE and it becomes third party and then ten party and then a thousand party like playing telephone and information is typically not the same as when it started as the last person to tell the information too, and make it a fact!! all narratives are not facts most are rumor, hyperbole, and not always true.

but here's a fact,

about a month ago could be six weeks ago, Mike McCarthy himself said he had more power here about the roster than he ever had in Green Bay at any time, how is that possible?

If all these narratives were 100% true not saying jerry never did this, i'm sure way back when the dave campo years in the chan years , he was a lot more meddling and involved he is not that meddling and is involved as people want to keep placing on him... I'm not saying he doesn't do any of this or sometimes he does it, and other times he don't because I know what you're going to do, you're going to bring up the Trey Lance trade but as a GM, we're talking about a third string quarterback that did not affect this roster at all this year, because they didn't force him on the field ,they didn't make him play they just put him on the roster as a possible developmental guy but everyone's going to keep pointing to one thing here and there and then make it a always thing....​

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No, there's not an always thing, so at this point it doesn't matter but I hate to break it to you Mike McCarthy himself said he had more power here than in Green Bay when it came to the roster....​

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I don't care about the media, who talks, we can ignore that,​

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you're talking about stripping there's no strip in whenever you go to a new job and many corporate jobs are really jobs have their own unique set of rules, you know the employee handbook, the things they want from you and expect from you in each position can have a different set of responsibilities from one job to the next ,even if it shares the same title... I hate to break it to you but as much as you guys hate Jerry he was right about Mike McCarthy in 2020 he was the absolute best hire, its been proven but you all hated it, results speak for themselves.​

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apparently as bad as Jerry must because you say he's the worst GM in the league, that's what people say ,which I just can't get on board with that because I don't think you can win 36 games, 2 division titles, go to the playoffs 5 out of the last 8 years is being the worst?​

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I mean when someone says the worst, I'm thinking of about 15 or 20 other teams that can't get it right and they can't even beat the Dallas Cowboys... Yes, I understand it's regular season win percentage we didn't do anything in the playoffs, but you can't have it both ways if the GM puts enough talent on the team for an allegedly mid coach or an errand boy or a yes man coach that he strips him of all power how did they win all those games??? How did they do something other teams wish they could do, the Cleveland Browns haven't won a division title since 1989 . we're talking about just a basic division title around here, it doesn't mean anything to win a division title, apparently because if you don't follow it up with a Super Bowl run it's deemed as a failed season.​

So I'm saying yes Jerry does a lot of things that are annoying, he says a lot of things that are annoying, he doesn't always do things the way some people feel are normal or natural ,but he's not as bad as you all say because Mike McCarthy himself and this is how I know,


also he allows his coordinators and his head coaches have input on draft day and sometimes that's bad and he also allowed Mike McCarthy to hang himself 2 words Mike Nolan, that was a hire by Mike McCarthy I prefer Dan Quinn that was a Jerry hire, also Mike McCarthy hired himself as the next offensive coordinator, and when he wasn't going well instead of demoting himself he allowed the team to lose and we saw his coaching style lose games his unaggressive don't lose a game attitude instead of being aggressive trying to win games this was on the head coach the failures here can't all be blamed on Jerry, because I don't know how many times we have so many players in the top 100 ,pro bowlers, all pros, and yet we have the worst GM in the league? I mean that's what you're saying the worst GM in the league that never does anything right maybe not the trade for Amari Cooper in 2018 that turned that team around are you saying that was coaching move that Jason Garrett made that trade and Jerry had nothing to do with it and Jason Garrett was 100% against it but Jerry did it anyway??


So, what is it you give him credit for the move, or you don't that's what's the problem around here? I called Jerry a mid, very average GM ,a bit better owner but he not the worst GM..

So can we stop putting Jerry in 100% narratives like it's all or nothing there's no Gray area there is Gray area but the fans don't allow it there are far worse teams in this league that I would rather not be a fan of and I mean a lot of them there's probably 20 of them what's happening is Jerry's being held up against the standard which is above average elite type GM's like in Philadelphia and the aggressive nature of with the Rams and some of the all in teams like San Francisco or some of the ones that are making a little bit bigger moves well that's like 5 that's like 5GMs that are clearly better than Jerry...

The League doesn't see it like fans do, I mean they see it from my perspective how does a team that has top 6 IN regular season win percentage the last decade, that are constantly in prime time, they're constantly talked about that means they're relative, you can't be relative if you really suck so bad...

I mean if you really put this the way the fans viewed Jerry we'd be at the bottom of the league all the time we'd be picking in the top of the draft all the time that's what bad teams look like that are constantly picking in the top five and even in the top ten the Cowboys are very rarely in this position we're in this year and we suck so bad we still tripped in the seven wins and end up down at 12... And that's where the deleted roster where 60% of our salary cap was on the injured reserve list literally our best players we were on like medical alert using practice squad players in one seven games there are teams out there that wish they could win seven games right now people around here saying we're in for like a big downturn and we're going to only win one to three games next year because that's what they are assuming but that hasn't happened around here in a very long time..

So again, I'm not saying I agree with Jerry or any of his moves or the way he does business and I also agree with some of what you said in the sentiment towards Jerry but some of it is so slanted towards hate and disdain that we use the wrong types of words ,you're typecasting Jerry as the worst GM in the league and is not actually the truth..

I don't have a twitter account.

Jerry Jones's relationships with his HC's are documented through his own interviews and he does not deny the actions that he has taken. These are actions that have traditionally been those of the head coach. They include communication with the media, the specific role and status of players, and even roster decisions.

His communications with the media have often resulted in contradictions to what the HC has articulated. This results in the erosion of his authority and generates uncertainty among the players as to whether his instructions deserve compliance.

Just as it was with Jason Garrett, McCarthy is a company man who tried to the best of his ability not to complain publicly and to appear as if Jerry's actions align with his beliefs. Any coach that has worked with Jerry Jones deserves credit for patience, diplomacy and not publicly expressing frustration.

With that said, there are elements of Jerry's HC contracts that ties into any future disclosure that might negatively affect public opinion of Jerry Jones. They appear in every contract since Jimmy Johnson.

The fact that the Cowboys have not been the worse team over the past three decades is not a standard worthy of The Dallas Cowboys historic record. The fact that it has been nearly three decades since the last Super Bowl is not worthy of their history.

Jerry Jones continues to be every bit as intrusive as he has always been. The best source to confirm this are his own statements.

 

[kskboys]

I think it would help a lot with in-game management and scheme changes...adapt to what they are doing or will do.

Some coaches don't.

Seeing the field well is a skillset. Only helps if he's the one playing. Irrelevant if the coach saw the field well as a player.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Seeing the field well is a skillset. Only helps if he's the one playing. Irrelevant if the coach saw the field well as a player.

Sorry...I don't get it. But that's okay. I was under the impression the team has a full staff or people that observe and react. Oh well.

 

[JW82]

Funny think with Romo, he was so underrated during his playing time. Unfortunately when it all really started clicking for him at an elite level, his body just couldn't do it anymore. NOW its just the opposite, instead of being thought of as a very good QB people have have a fantasy of him being Bill Walsh and Joe Montana rolled into one person. Lol. He has never created one play, he has never coached at any level, but folks think he should lead the most popular team in all of sports. So funny.

 

[TNCowboy]

TLDR

Romo makes 5x what Jerry wants to pay. /thread

 

[Xeven]

Why Call
- Few with a higher football IQ than Tony Romo--he is a coach at-heart and always has been, and even more so than Kellen Moore, oh by the way
- Highly relatable, which is why he's an analyst in the first place, which is going to translate to the job
- Parcells disciple, but really exposed to so much more given his analyst job for the past 8 years
- No one could possibly... not even Prime... come into the job with a greater flourish and public enthusiasm
- Probably the one guy who would be able to attract Jason Witten to come along side him as an OC
- No one could be more passionate about putting a Super Bowl ring on his finger (after having lost out as a player) than Tony Romo... maybe as passionate, no one more so.

Why Listen
- No one could be more passionate about putting a Super Bowl ring on his finger (after having lost out as a player) than Tony Romo... maybe as passionate, no one more so.
- He's made a lot of money. He doesn't need to be hung up on the money thing. He can afford it.
- Did I mention he's a coach at-heart? This is a very unique moment in his life, and a very unique opportunity to fulfill something really so much more special than being a TV analyst could ever be.
- Jerry should offer Tony a piece of equity in the Dallas Cowboys as a bonus to winning a Super Bowl... that would seal any deal, imo

He or Tom Brady. Both probably have the highest Football IQ as you say. I’d love Tony to be HC. They both are probably to expensive for Jerry.

 

[blueblood70]

I don't have a twitter account.

Jerry Jones's relationships with his HC's are documented through his own interviews and he does not deny the actions that he has taken. These are actions that have traditionally been those of the head coach. They include communication with the media, the specific role and status of players, and even roster decisions.

His communications with the media have often resulted in contradictions to what the HC has articulated. This results in the erosion of his authority and generates uncertainty among the players as to whether his instructions deserve compliance.

Just as it was with Jason Garrett, McCarthy is a company man who tried to the best of his ability not to complain publicly and to appear as if Jerry's actions align with his beliefs. Any coach that has worked with Jerry Jones deserves credit for patience, diplomacy and not publicly expressing frustration.

With that said, there are elements of Jerry's HC contracts that ties into any future disclosure that might negatively affect public opinion of Jerry Jones. They appear in every contract since Jimmy Johnson.

The fact that the Cowboys have not been the worse team over the past three decades is not a standard worthy of The Dallas Cowboys historic record. The fact that it has been nearly three decades since the last Super Bowl is not worthy of their history.

Jerry Jones continues to be every bit as intrusive as he has always been. The best source to confirm this are his own statements.

And I wholeheartedly disagree, there's nothing you can say to make your opinion and hyperbole and rhetoric truer than my opinion.

I'm telling you there is no way he's anywhere near what he was in the early 2000s recent history with the records says that there's been a lot of changes in the last 10 years he's leaned on his actual staff his scouts the entire front office we don't even know all the names literally you don't even understand this isn't some potent mom and pop operation you think it is but they have 1200 employees if you include all the players literally just for the Dallas Cowboys let alone you think he doesn't know how to manage a business and lean on his staff..

They make decisions as a group just like most corporations there's nothing different and yes he's a big mouthpiece that we can agree on the man talks too much the man likes to be part of everything when it comes to the media and marketing we get it that's the truth but that doesn't mean he's making decisions like you think he is he's not intrusive he allows this coaching staff and I'm telling you Mike McCarthy came out and said he had more power here with the roster then he did in Green Bay that is a fact so you can't say he's more intrusive and that all these decisions are being finalized by Jerry Jones no he's taking everybody's input and yes in the end like all owners can have the final say but that's not always the case....​

In a lot of scenarios, he allows his staff to hang themselves ,he gives them enough rope and enough power to make that decisions.. we've already went over this I don't want to hear how you think Mike McCarthy by himself can make a better decision if he was given more power, he literally picked Mike Nolan as his DC and that was a total failure, he also picked himself as offensive coordinator, that was a failure in my mind I'd rather have Jerry's picks; Kellen more and Dan Quinn those were Jerry's picks, those were better hires than Mike McCarthy's, it's all in black and white it literally worked better with those two guys than it did last year and I get the injuries and all that other stuff it doesn't matter we saw it for ourselves..

Jerry is a attention monger we get it but he is not making all the decisions for every department and everything that's happening for his football team there are many layers to that and if you don't like it that's fine but my opinion is just as relative is yours and the grand scheme of things neither one is true because we don't live up at the start they don't allow us to have information they don't want us to have these bread crumbs you get are completely rumors or feelings..​

So you can take your diatribes and your heavy anti-Cowboys front office and anti-Jerry slanted opinions and want to blame everything on him and give all these coaches some kind of pass because you believe Jerry kept them from being successful and I find that hilarious but your opinions are no more relative than mine period end of story this is all coming from people gathering information from all over the Internet and taking their own feelings and their gut and turning it into fact it's not a fact none of this is fact we don't know every decision that was ever made and who made the final decisions and we will never know but I find it ironic that any of the good stuff that happens all the great drafts all the years where our records were great all that was on everyone else but anytime something bad happens it's all on Jerry I find that hypocritical...

 

[MajesticRey]

Eh yep I’m wrong. It’s only 18 per.

What I can’t figure out is why they are paid so much. People are going to watch the games no matter what. No one ever tunes in to hear what the broadcasters say.

Regardless, Jerry won’t be paying a coach half that.

All this money being thrown around - why is there a salary cap??

 

[dupree89]

tony romo as head coach and jason witten as OC???

Look out 72 Dolphins, here we come!

 

[Chasing6]

Why Call
- Few with a higher football IQ than Tony Romo--he is a coach at-heart and always has been, and even more so than Kellen Moore, oh by the way
- Highly relatable, which is why he's an analyst in the first place, which is going to translate to the job
- Parcells disciple, but really exposed to so much more given his analyst job for the past 8 years
- No one could possibly... not even Prime... come into the job with a greater flourish and public enthusiasm
- Probably the one guy who would be able to attract Jason Witten to come along side him as an OC
- No one could be more passionate about putting a Super Bowl ring on his finger (after having lost out as a player) than Tony Romo... maybe as passionate, no one more so.

Why Listen
- No one could be more passionate about putting a Super Bowl ring on his finger (after having lost out as a player) than Tony Romo... maybe as passionate, no one more so.
- He's made a lot of money. He doesn't need to be hung up on the money thing. He can afford it.
- Did I mention he's a coach at-heart? This is a very unique moment in his life, and a very unique opportunity to fulfill something really so much more special than being a TV analyst could ever be.
- Jerry should offer Tony a piece of equity in the Dallas Cowboys as a bonus to winning a Super Bowl... that would seal any deal, imo

Tony owes Jerry nothing. Tony will make 3 times more staying where is at and work 80% less.