Broaddus Changing His Tune on Ealy...

[CowboysLaw87]

Rick ‏@RJBrasilcdn 9m
@BryanBroaddus interesting take on Ealy at the 3. Are you starting to soften on Ealy as a player, and a possibility at 16?

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 6m
@RJBrasilcdn The flex makes him interesting. I am trying to find a RDE in this draft. I was too hard on the kid.

Rick ‏@RJBrasilcdn 5m
@BryanBroaddus as a flex player, would you consider at 16? If only considered as DE, do you still take him at 16?

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 3m
“@RJBrasilcdn: @BryanBroaddus as a flex player, would you consider at 16? If only considered as DE, do you still take him at 16?” In mix

That exchange came after Broaddus said he watched film of Ealy in the nickel at the 3-tech position last night and was impressed. Called him "explosive" and sited the Georgia game specifically.

My question is where is this coming from? There must've been a reason he was circling back to study Ealy more in the first place, and I wonder if he got a tip from a coach/scout in the building. He may not be 100% connected and "in the know," but those DC.com media members sure come away with more accurate whispers and info than the rest of us. Interesting.

 

[locked&loaded]

Rick ‏@RJBrasilcdn 9m
@BryanBroaddus interesting take on Ealy at the 3. Are you starting to soften on Ealy as a player, and a possibility at 16?

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 6m
@RJBrasilcdn The flex makes him interesting. I am trying to find a RDE in this draft. I was too hard on the kid.

Rick ‏@RJBrasilcdn 5m
@BryanBroaddus as a flex player, would you consider at 16? If only considered as DE, do you still take him at 16?

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 3m
“@RJBrasilcdn: @BryanBroaddus as a flex player, would you consider at 16? If only considered as DE, do you still take him at 16?” In mix

That exchange came after Broaddus said he watched film of Ealy in the nickel at the 3-tech position last night and was impressed. Called him "explosive" and sited the Georgia game specifically.

My question is where is this coming from? There must've been a reason he was circling back to study Ealy more in the first place, and I wonder if he got a tip from a coach/scout in the building. He may not be 100% connected and "in the know," but those DC.com media members sure come away with more accurate whispers and info than the rest of us. Interesting.

If you watch the guy come of the line 5 times you can tell hes slow off the ball. Has no burst.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

If you watch the guy come of the line 5 times you can tell hes slow off the ball. Has no burst.

Yeah, I'm personally not an advocate of Ealy at #16. Just thought it was really interesting. There aren't many guys who could legitimately play either end spot and 3T. In that way, he may be the most "versatile" DL in the draft.

 

[jterrell]

Very possible the stance softening came after speaking with a Cowboys scout. He still has a buddy or two in the building.

Ealy's combine numbers are great but his film is no where near worth 16.

Decent target late in r1 IMHO. Slightly lesser Spencer. Might take 3 years to be a plus player.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

Very possible the stance softening came after speaking with a Cowboys scout. He still has a buddy or two in the building.

Ealy's combine numbers are great but his film is no where near worth 16.

Decent target late in r1 IMHO. Slightly lesser Spencer. Might take 3 years to be a plus player.

Well from a pure versatility standpoint he's probably better than Spencer. Spencer is in that 250 lbs. range, making him extremely undersized anywhere but RDE. Ealy, at over 270, could play 3 positions on our DL.

I actually think Ealy moves much better than people give him credit for. Seems pretty smooth to me, but my problem with him is more technique oriented and lack of stoutness at the POA. I think Marinelli could help turn him into a plus player far sooner than you expect, though I'll still say I'm not ready to call him a great target at #16.

 

[Gaede]

Thought the reversal was very interesting, as well

 

[jterrell]

Well from a pure versatility standpoint he's probably better than Spencer. Spencer is in that 250 lbs. range, making him extremely undersized anywhere but RDE. Ealy, at over 270, could play 3 positions on our DL.

I actually think Ealy moves much better than people give him credit for. Seems pretty smooth to me, but my problem with him is more technique oriented and lack of stoutness at the POA. I think Marinelli could help turn him into a plus player far sooner than you expect, though I'll still say I'm not ready to call him a great target at #16.

Spencer was a fit at either DE position and had legit pass rush presence.

Ealy rather lacks any notable skill at all.
He's simply looks great on paper.
It's funny because he is the exact opposite of Michael Sam.
Sam was 5x the player as Ealy but has terrible measurables.
Spencer was FAR FAR BETTER in college than Ealy.
It isn't even close.

What Broaddus says makes little sense because as a nickel 3T we can go get MUCH better prospects like Eko or Easley far later than pick 16.
Which is why I think he's been influenced by someone he trusts in a position of power that Ealy is on our list.

Ealy and Ware took a pic together and Ware was clearly the bigger, thicker guy. Possibly Ware has really gained a lot of weight and size since the 4-3 shift but it's also possible Ealy has only bulked up for testing and that's not his actual playing weight.

All that said, I am not saying I'd hate Ealy. He is a need fit and he has the body and measurables of an NFL player. But if we can;t trade down I wouldn't want him at pick. His tape is really very shaky for a guy picked that high.

 

[tm1119]

Spencer was a fit at either DE position and had legit pass rush presence.

Ealy rather lacks any notable skill at all.
He's simply looks great on paper.
It's funny because he is the exact opposite of Michael Sam.
Sam was 5x the player as Ealy but has terrible measurables.
Spencer was FAR FAR BETTER in college than Ealy.
It isn't even close.

What Broaddus says makes little sense because as a nickel 3T we can go get MUCH better prospects like Eko or Easley far later than pick 16.
Which is why I think he's been influenced by someone he trusts in a position of power that Ealy is on our list.

Ealy and Ware took a pic together and Ware was clearly the bigger, thicker guy. Possibly Ware has really gained a lot of weight and size since the 4-3 shift but it's also possible Ealy has only bulked up for testing and that's not his actual playing weight.

All that said, I am not saying I'd hate Ealy. He is a need fit and he has the body and measurables of an NFL player. But if we can;t trade down I wouldn't want him at pick. His tape is really very shaky for a guy picked that high.

The problem with that analysis is that Ealy really wasn't a primary pass rusher in college much. He played some DT and a lot of 2 gap DE where his job was more to read and react than to get straight up the field. It's definitely a risk to project and take a player based on something you haven't seen him do a ton of, but at the same time there doesn't appear any reason Ealy isn't athletic enough to be a good pass rusher. On paper at least, as you said.

 

[Alexander]

If you watch the guy come of the line 5 times you can tell hes slow off the ball. Has no burst.

I fail to see how he suddenly came to this realization after being so negative about his get off at the snap previously.

 

[Alexander]

Thought the reversal was very interesting, as well

If interesting means stinks to high heaven, you are correct.

 

[Alexander]

Yeah, I'm personally not an advocate of Ealy at #16. Just thought it was really interesting. There aren't many guys who could legitimately play either end spot and 3T. In that way, he may be the most "versatile" DL in the draft.

All that means is that honestly, he is not that great at any one thing. I would not take a player like that at #16 overall. Now if he is around in the second, yes, he was productive enough to merit consideration.

 

[DFWJC]

I say "no" to Ealy at 16. I'm a bit surprised it's even a consideration given the other possibilities.

 

[OhSnap]

Maybe he felt a little remorse about tearing college kids down in a public forum.

 

[starfrombirth]

Rick ‏@RJBrasilcdn 9m
@BryanBroaddus interesting take on Ealy at the 3. Are you starting to soften on Ealy as a player, and a possibility at 16?

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 6m
@RJBrasilcdn The flex makes him interesting. I am trying to find a RDE in this draft. I was too hard on the kid.

Rick ‏@RJBrasilcdn 5m
@BryanBroaddus as a flex player, would you consider at 16? If only considered as DE, do you still take him at 16?

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 3m
“@RJBrasilcdn: @BryanBroaddus as a flex player, would you consider at 16? If only considered as DE, do you still take him at 16?” In mix

That exchange came after Broaddus said he watched film of Ealy in the nickel at the 3-tech position last night and was impressed. Called him "explosive" and sited the Georgia game specifically.

My question is where is this coming from? There must've been a reason he was circling back to study Ealy more in the first place, and I wonder if he got a tip from a coach/scout in the building. He may not be 100% connected and "in the know," but those DC.com media members sure come away with more accurate whispers and info than the rest of us. Interesting.

Not sure what he saw to change his mind.... Color me unimpressed.

 

[jterrell]

Not

The problem with that analysis is that Ealy really wasn't a primary pass rusher in college much. He played some DT and a lot of 2 gap DE where his job was more to read and react than to get straight up the field. It's definitely a risk to project and take a player based on something you haven't seen him do a ton of, but at the same time there doesn't appear any reason Ealy isn't athletic enough to be a good pass rusher. On paper at least, as you said.

Not sure I totally buy that brother.

Pass rushers can show explosion inside or out. Aaron Donald is a monster pass rusher.
Ealy came in as a 250 pound rookie.
I doubt he was playing some run stuffing position then.

He is a big guy with great measurables but again at 16 I really want to see a guy whose dominated on tape.

He has some upside for sure but he doesnt look ready to start anywhere as a rookie for even this very mediocre Cowboys DL.


For Dallas Broaddus is suggesting he plays SDE then Nickel 3T. Sounds exactly like Crawford whom we only paid a 3rd rounder for.

 

[bodi]

I say "no" to Ealy at 16. I'm a bit surprised it's even a consideration given the other possibilities.

please do tell who the DALLAS COWBOYS have in mind as " I'm a bit surprised it's even a consideration given the other possibilities. "

what other possibilities ?

or tell us what you'd do ?

just a Q?

 

[tm1119]

Not


Not sure I totally buy that brother.

Pass rushers can show explosion inside or out. Aaron Donald is a monster pass rusher.
Ealy came in as a 250 pound rookie.
I doubt he was playing some run stuffing position then.

He is a big guy with great measurables but again at 16 I really want to see a guy whose dominated on tape.

He has some upside for sure but he doesnt look ready to start anywhere as a rookie for even this very mediocre Cowboys DL.


For Dallas Broaddus is suggesting he plays SDE then Nickel 3T. Sounds exactly like Crawford whom we only paid a 3rd rounder for.

I mean what are you not buying? That his scheme didn't ask him to be a pass rusher 1st? It's the same thing with Jernigan, people get this misconception that they are slow and not pass rushers at all because they didn't fire off the ball with only getting to the QB in mind in college like someone like Donald. Just not the case in my opinion. Ealy's 3 cone time was elite and his 20 yard shuttle time was only .02 behind Clowney's. That's pretty hard to ignore and say he can't get up field and get after the QB just because it wasn't his primary job in college.

 

[DFWJC]

please do tell who the DALLAS COWBOYS have in mind as " I'm a bit surprised it's even a consideration given the other possibilities. "

what other possibilities ?

or tell us what you'd do ?

just a Q?

Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't hate the player...just not at 16.

Of the options mentioned here and around the league at pick 16, here are just a few that I'd prefer over taking Ealy in that spot (in no particular order):

• Donald
• Lewan
• trade down
• Barr
• Jernigan
• Martin
• maybe Clinton-Dix, Dennard, Gilbert, etc

maybe even a few more at 16, but probably a trade down before them.
It would not at all surprise me if Ealy goes in the 2nd round. But there are always surprises both higher and lower.

Hey, back on March 28th, Bucky Brooks actually had a mock with Dallas taking Ealy at 16!
I know those mocks don't mean very much, but of 10 others that I looked at he was nowhere near that high...and many had him out of the1st rd. Again though, we really should go on our own assessments.

 

[reddyuta]

I have read that Ealy played 25% of his snaps at 3 tech last year,I think he needs a lot of technique work but he looks like a guy MArinelli would like.

 

[Idgit]

I say "no" to Ealy at 16. I'm a bit surprised it's even a consideration given the other possibilities.

Me, too.