Broaddus: When 'Boys cut Alonzo Spellman, there was a tranquilizer gun in position to protect Jerry

[LatinMind]

You and I differ drastically on this topic. That is one of Jerry Jones' fatal flaws as far as I am concerned. You have to look at it as a business at some point when ultimately that is what it is.

It is one thing to have compassion, but you cannot allow it to infringe on the professional side.

Tom Landry was an extremely compassionate man, but you still saw the business side react swiftly when it became clear there was the need to. You can point to a number of players, Thomas Henderson is a great example, where despite wanting to "help" them, they got shipped out when the behavior was a detriment.

Jerry Jones is very similar to Al Davis in philosophy, where he also treated the players "like family", but eventually that strategy can be misinterpreted and can even become enabling in some cases.

Heres the point. It doesnt matter what you think he's infringing upon. Because his business isnt suffering. Jerry sees a bigger picture than just a game. He's there to provide entertainment. And he does. He gives us the Dallas Cowboys. At the end of the day its just a game. And at the end of his life he can say he's never put a game over the health of a player. He wont have that over his conscience.

When Michael Irvin looked like he was seriously hurt after that game Jerry looked destroyed. Interviews the guy was genuinely destroyed.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

A year ago he would've responded to our criticism on here, then he realized it wasn't a good look arguing with forum go'ers over his opinions.

Oh, he's come on here to bash his critics a few times lately, you've just missed it. I suspect some inboxes got a good workout.

 

[visionary]

You and I differ drastically on this topic. That is one of Jerry Jones' fatal flaws as far as I am concerned. You have to look at it as a business at some point when ultimately that is what it is.

It is one thing to have compassion, but you cannot allow it to infringe on the professional side.

Tom Landry was an extremely compassionate man, but you still saw the business side react swiftly when it became clear there was the need to. You can point to a number of players, Thomas Henderson is a great example, where despite wanting to "help" them, they got shipped out when the behavior was a detriment.

Jerry Jones is very similar to Al Davis in philosophy, where he also treated the players "like family", but eventually that strategy can be misinterpreted and can even become enabling in some cases.

great post Alexander

the other negative effect it has, which is even more devastating to the performance of an NFL team, is that it undermines the HC who should be the real leader

JJ has done this consistently to the detriment of team performance

 

[RastaRocket]

By SPORTSDAYDFW.COM
On the Josh Brent situation:

“Jerry (Jones) has always been a let’s see how the legal process plays out. I go back to Jerry Brown’s mom. If you didn’t have that angle, Jerry Jones to me and there is a lot of things people don’t know about Jerry Jones that I do know. Larry Allen had a pain drug addiction, and Jerry Jones got his family together and got him help. Jerry Jones has always tried to help the player. Whoever that may be, he tried to help. I think that’s the approach with Josh Brent. He’s just like let’s see what happens.

Read the rest: http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...er-gun-in-position-to-protect-jerry-jones.ece

One of the things I love about Jerry.

 

[crazyfool]

I hope Alonzo is doing better these days and has his condition under control. I always was rooting for him, especially since I suffer from a similar disorder.

 

[mrmojo]

I believe he got all of prison in June 2012 after pleading no contest to eluding officers in 2008. I do not know what his status is now.

 

[cannonball44]

Larry Larry Allen is a FORMER player. get over it.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

By SPORTSDAYDFW.COM

Published: 29 June 2013 12:09 PM

Updated: 29 June 2013 03:29 PM

Ex-scout Bryan Broaddus joined G-Bag Nation on 105.3 FM The Fan last week. Here are some highlights.

On if he ever told a GM to take a player off the board because he thought he might murder someone:

“No. There is guys that you talk about that have character issues. But would you profile a guy as a murderer? 13 years I’ve sat in draft rooms, and I’ve never had a scout say you know what Bryan, this guy is a murderer, a potential murderer. I’ll tell you what though, we’ve been scared. You remember a guy named Alonzo Spellman? Bi-polar, right? When we cut him, Jerry (Jones) had a guard waiting outside the door because he was worried about him coming over the desk after him, either that or a tranquilizer gun. We had something in position. He was an outstanding football player but you had to worry about him.”

On the Josh Brent situation:

“Jerry (Jones) has always been a let’s see how the legal process plays out. I go back to Jerry Brown’s mom. If you didn’t have that angle, Jerry Jones to me and there is a lot of things people don’t know about Jerry Jones that I do know. Larry Allen had a pain drug addiction, and Jerry Jones got his family together and got him help. Jerry Jones has always tried to help the player. Whoever that may be, he tried to help. I think that’s the approach with Josh Brent. He’s just like let’s see what happens.

Read the rest: http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...er-gun-in-position-to-protect-jerry-jones.ece

I rember a few yrs back, we had another very talented player on the defesive line who had a few issues......cannot remember the name........believe it started with a "G" or maybe played at Michigan State.......?????

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I rember a few yrs back, we had another very talented player on the defesive line who had a few issues......cannot remember the name........believe it started with a "U" or maybe played at Michigan State.......?????

Ref below--thank you GOOGLE

After being drafted, he signed a five year, $5.3 million contract on August 1, 1999 but walked out of training camp the next day and never returned, saying he could not resolve the conflict between playing football and serving his Christian faith. The Vikings released him later that month. Underwood would later change his mind and decided to return to the NFL. He was claimed on waivers by the Miami Dolphins after 23 teams passed on him, but showed a lack of focus towards football. Multiple times during team meetings, Underwood was found not taking notes, but instead writing about the apocalypse. He only played one preseason game for the Dolphins before getting injured.
In September 1999, Underwood was arrested by police for failure to pay child support.[1] Within 24 hours, he attempted to commit suicide by slashing his own neck with a cutlass before repeatedly yelling "I'm not worthy of God".[2] According to his mother, an ordained minister, his behavior had been influenced by attending the Immanuel's Temple Community Church in Lansing, Michigan, which she describes as a "cult that's posing as a church." The church's pastor stated that neither he nor his wife had ever counseled Underwood and that no one in the church told Underwood to leave football.
Underwood's mother later retreated from her comments and issued her own statement: "We should both be on the same accord, rather than creating conflict caused by misrepresentation."[3]
Underwood later spent two months in protective care and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. After he escaped from a psychiatric care facility, he was released from the Dolphins in December 1999. He later signed a two-year contract with the Dallas Cowboys. During the 2000-2001 seasons, Underwood had 21 tackles and four sacks in 19 games. In January 2001, he tried to kill himself for the second time by running into traffic twice on a busy suburban highway. The Cowboys released him later that month.

 

[Plankton]

I read this from Broaddus last week. I think the Allen thing was a low rent issue to make public. It's no ones business other than Allen's if he had a painkiller addiction. It's bad form to make that public.

 

[Plankton]

This is what i love about Jerry. He treats his players like family. Alot of people say Jerry is all about the money. Jerry is loyal to his players and coaches. Guy gets a bad rep because of what his players do and dont do. I'd rather have a GM who thinks about his players well-being before the business side in winning a game.

In sports you always hear players after their playing days talk about their owner used them and threw them out when they werent needed. You have never heard that about Jerry.

Having an owner who treats players like family is great, and admirable (though Jimmy Smith may disagree about that).

Having a GM who treats players like family is terrible for the on-field product, and not the way to run a football operation.

When you have a team where the owner and the GM are the same, and treats players in this manner, you have the Dallas Cowboys for the last 20 years.

 

[Staubacher]

Mr. Broaddus owes some personal and public apologies. He is using his prior "insider" knowledge to insult and taint the reputations of Dez Bryant and Larry Allen. That stuff should stay on the inside and he should know that.

Scouts know a lot of very personal and private things about players and teams, but generally you don't hear specific scouts saying specific things about specific players, so I'm assuming there is a professional unwritten code about such things.

Dez has heard about it and was not happy to have to defend himself publicly. He has been doing really well on and off the field, so for Broaddus to bring that past stuff up was VERY out of line and hurtful no doubt. Please Mr. Broaddus if you read this - man up and give Dez a call and an apology. I'm sure you meant well but it was unnecessary to say what you did. Also Mr. Allen did not deserve to have his dirty laundry aired.

I have always respected Bryan and value his Cowboys input on the players on-field performances. But this was tabloid stuff and beneath him or his profession.

 

[Iago33]

Mr. Broaddus owes some personal and public apologies. He is using his prior "insider" knowledge to insult and taint the reputations of Dez Bryant and Larry Allen. That stuff should stay on the inside and he should know that.

Scouts know a lot of very personal and private things about players and teams, but generally you don't hear specific scouts saying specific things about specific players, so I'm assuming there is a professional unwritten code about such things.

Dez has heard about it and was not happy to have to defend himself publicly. He has been doing really well on and off the field, so for Broaddus to bring that past stuff up was VERY out of line and hurtful no doubt. Please Mr. Broaddus if you read this - man up and give Dez a call and an apology. I'm sure you meant well but it was unnecessary to say what you did. Also Mr. Allen did not deserve to have his dirty laundry aired.

I have always respected Bryan and value his Cowboys input on the players on-field performances. But this was tabloid stuff and beneath him or his profession.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Wood]

I used to workout in same gym as Spellman. Freakish size - he would just stare in mirror at himself never saying word to anyone else. You would probably need more than tranquiler to take him down.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

That is a pretty wild story. Glad they did not have to use it.

Pretty sure Jerry uses it on himself right before every interview,,,