brockers pretty good game

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vs the bills, 1.5 sacks a force fumble and 7 tackles. Pretty good numbers. He has been pretty good.
 
Yes he played very well om a 4-3. Still don't believe he would make a good 3-4 DE
 
burmafrd;4893885 said:
not worth a first rd pick so far

4 sacks through 13 games is actually pretty good for an interior lineman.

So using this logic, Warren Sapp wasn't worth a first rounder as a rookie.

And judging an interior guy on sacks alone, makes no sense.
 
Brockers also missed the first 3 or 4 weeks with an ankle. Brockers would be in the top 10 in a redraft.
 
Joshmil53;4894462 said:
He hasn't been impressive at all IMO. Definitely not top 5.

if hankins is being talked about going top 5, then there's no reason to say Brockers wouldn't have the same talk.
 
Manwiththeplan;4894164 said:
4 sacks through 13 games is actually pretty good for an interior lineman.

So using this logic, Warren Sapp wasn't worth a first rounder as a rookie.

And judging an interior guy on sacks alone, makes no sense.

you are comparing him to Warren Sapp. You do know that.

its not just sacks. He has not done all that much else. But clearly you are just a homer on this guy so who cares?
 
burmafrd;4894608 said:
you are comparing him to Warren Sapp. You do know that.

its not just sacks. He has not done all that much else. But clearly you are just a homer on this guy so who cares?

if what you got from my post was brockers = sapp, then you're clearly the one who's biased on the subject.

FWIW, I don't think it's a coincidence that St.Louis went from allowing 4.8 ypc and 152.1 ypg, to 4.0 ypc and 110.3 ypg.

Brockers isn't soley responsibile, but when you combine the improvement in the run game, and his success collapsing the pocket, there's really no argument to say he's still not worth a first round pick.
 
burmafrd;4893885 said:
not worth a first rd pick so far

Then neither is Claiborne with his 1 interception.

Brockers is and will be a very good DL.
 
Manwiththeplan;4894647 said:
if what you got from my post was brockers = sapp, then you're clearly the one who's biased on the subject.

FWIW, I don't think it's a coincidence that St.Louis went from allowing 4.8 ypc and 152.1 ypg, to 4.0 ypc and 110.3 ypg.

Brockers isn't soley responsibile, but when you combine the improvement in the run game, and his success collapsing the pocket, there's really no argument to say he's still not worth a first round pick.

Quinn is also turning into an elite DE and Lauranitis too. Jenkins and Finnegan help too.
 
Manwiththeplan;4894647 said:
if what you got from my post was brockers = sapp, then you're clearly the one who's biased on the subject.

FWIW, I don't think it's a coincidence that St.Louis went from allowing 4.8 ypc and 152.1 ypg, to 4.0 ypc and 110.3 ypg.

Brockers isn't soley responsibile, but when you combine the improvement in the run game, and his success collapsing the pocket, there's really no argument to say he's still not worth a first round pick.

depends on what you define as what is worth a first rd pick.

This guy is not a Seymour and that to me is the only one I would say is worth it
 
burmafrd;4895449 said:
depends on what you define as what is worth a first rd pick.

This guy is not a Seymour and that to me is the only one I would say is worth it

I'm thinking you don't really mean Seymour is the only DL worth a first round pick.

One of the best DL I've ever seen doesn't get a lot of 'stats' but he makes his defense much much better....Vince Wilfork.
 
jblaze2004;4893696 said:
vs the bills, 1.5 sacks a force fumble and 7 tackles. Pretty good numbers. He has been pretty good.

Would you say overall that he's.. pretty good?
 
If the purpose of this thread is truly to congratulate a young man on his success in the NFL then I'm all for it. He's been good this season.

If the purpose of this thread is to rue not taking Brockers in the draft then it's completely flawed for numerous reasons.

A.) Draft for talent, not for need... Mo' Claiborne has more potential as a CB than Brockers as a DL.

B.) Would Brockers even be successful as a 3-4 DE? I have a feeling that he wouldn't be.

C.) It's way to early to tell for either rookie.

And so on an so forth.
 
jobberone;4895457 said:
I'm thinking you don't really mean Seymour is the only DL worth a first round pick.

One of the best DL I've ever seen doesn't get a lot of 'stats' but he makes his defense much much better....Vince Wilfork.
Wilfork has been pretty trash this year (from A LOT of Patriot fans). Geno Atkins is the best DL in the league and there's no question about it.
 
Joshmil53;4895799 said:
Wilfork has been pretty trash this year (from A LOT of Patriot fans). Geno Atkins is the best DL in the league and there's no question about it.

Umm.. Patriot fans must be as dumb as most Dallas fans if they think that.
 

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