Bruce Irvin

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I was just watching highlights on this guy.

am I missing anything? Guy looks like a beast! just much faster and quicker than every one. Could be this years Von Miller.

yet he is projected as a 3rd round pick.
If he makes it to Dallas rd 2 put me on board to draft him.
 
Cowboy Junkie;4484635 said:
I was just watching highlights on this guy.

am I missing anything? Guy looks like a beast! just much faster and quicker than every one. Could be this years Von Miller.

yet he is projected as a 3rd round pick.
If he makes it to Dallas rd 2 put me on board to draft him.
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could someone please move this to draft zone. I did not mean to put it here

thanks
 
The fact he had a little legal trouble recently may make him fall a bit...

If he's there in the 2nd I pull the trigger on that without looking back...
 
Cowboy Junkie;4484635 said:
I was just watching highlights on this guy.

am I missing anything? Guy looks like a beast! just much faster and quicker than every one. Could be this years Von Miller.

yet he is projected as a 3rd round pick.
If he makes it to Dallas rd 2 put me on board to draft him.
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He lit up his season as a junior when he was only asked to come in on passing downs and rush the passer.

When they brought him back the next year he was put in as a 3 down player and asked to stop the run, occasionally do some coverage and add into the mix that most teams had learned from the previous season to double and sometimes triple team him.

So at this point it is believed that most NFL scouts see him as a pass rusher only in the short term and it will take him some time to be a complete OLB (run stopper, pass rusher and coverage responsibilities).
 
BrAinPaiNt;4484741 said:
He lit up his season as a junior when he was only asked to come in on passing downs and rush the passer.

When they brought him back the next year he was put in as a 3 down player and asked to stop the run, occasionally do some coverage and add into the mix that most teams had learned from the previous season to double and sometimes triple team him.

So at this point it is believed that most NFL scouts see him as a pass rusher only in the short term and it will take him some time to be a complete OLB (run stopper, pass rusher and coverage responsibilities).
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I could live with Irvin being solely a pass rusher as a rookie until he learns the game.

If he can get 12 sacks a game as a nickel rusher I could live with him not being able to play in the base defense at all.

I still think and hope that he can become effective against the run and in coverage but it may take a couple of years for it to happen. In the mean time we could hedge our bets by signing a guy like Walden to a cheap contract to split some snaps and let Spencer hit FA a year early.

If he is there in the second we should consider it a gift from above and take the kid and work on the other aspects of his game while he terrorizes QBs in the nickel.
 
He is a high motor guy and a pretty good athlete, I am just not sure he knows how to play football yet.

He has bounced around position wise and has not learned the finer points on technique, nor does he have a high football IQ.
 
Eskimo;4484823 said:
If he can get 12 sacks a game...
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Then we draft him in the first and enjoy the greatest season by a player in the history of the NFL. ;) :)
 
May be a late first, 2nd or even 3rd but Bruce Irvin has been my favorite player this draft.

Specialist or starter, Irvin is a Playmaker.
 
West Virginia played him at DE in a 3-man line, despite having the speed and agility to play anywhere at LB or DB. The optimist in me says they did it to accentuate his strengths. The pessimist says they did it because running around OTs is the only thing he was able to grasp.

He's been one of my favorites -- he absolutely tore up my Terps in 2010. But watching him more and more, I can see the potential for him being very one-dimensional and always slow to process what he's seeing as a LB. Kind of a Jason Williams from a bigger school.
 
I think Irvin is not an every down guy, I do think he is a good pass rusher who in certain packages can be a big help to any team who drafts him including Dallas.
 
Irvin is really underrated, for sure.

One thing I really like about him is he's not just fast, he's strong.
 
Irvin's burst off the line and lateral agility are at a completely different level above the other OLB prospects, IMO. He is stronger than given credit for and has long arms.
 
Irvin is a physical freak, but can help hold up against the run at the NFL level? I'm not sure. Will he stay out of jail? That I'm not sure of either.

While crazy talented, I don't think he is a Garrett type of guy. I can't see the Cowboys drafting him in the 2nd.
 
I don't really know much about him. How does he compare to Manny Lawson?
 
Irvin has the biggest off-field red flags of any player that's going to get drafted.

Quality pass rusher but a serious, serious thug.
 
StanleySpadowski;4485863 said:
Irvin has the biggest off-field red flags of any player that's going to get drafted.

Quality pass rusher but a serious, serious thug.
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He claims he's left that in his past. I know the destruction of property incident isn't helping his case, but with his measurables and production, you've got to do some serious investigating before you just place him on your "do not draft" list.
 
JBell523;4486544 said:
He claims he's left that in his past. I know the destruction of property incident isn't helping his case, but with his measurables and production, you've got to do some serious investigating before you just place him on your "do not draft" list.
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Every player claims to have "left that in his past", just like every player claims it was an over the counter supplement....
 
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