News: BTB: Rod Marinelli Best Defensive Coordinator According To Charles Tillman

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People also fail to realize that the decision to use man or zone coverage affects more than just the CBs. A D-Coordinator has to play the coverage that he believes works the best with all of the back 7 players.

I really don't think anyone fails to realize that.
 

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what is he going to do different than old man kiffin? .he needs a good dline to atleast be competitive and not end up last yet again.
 

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I guess that it's just a random coincidence that most posts that complain about man vs zone coverage reference only the CBs.

You could see the coverages change as we rotated injured players into and out of the back 7 last season. The Saints game was a good example where we were forced to be sitting ducks with Webb in the lineup and Lee out.
 

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Every. Single. Year.

Let's move X Cb to FS... Like this happens all the time all over the NFL and is wildly successful. CB and FS take two dramatically different approaches to the game. Particularly when one is a press cover corner who likes to play on the LOS.

Wouldn't say it happens often but not that unusual.
 

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Every. Single. Year.

Let's move X Cb to FS... Like this happens all the time all over the NFL and is wildly successful. CB and FS take two dramatically different approaches to the game. Particularly when one is a press cover corner who likes to play on the LOS.

Sure, you cant just move ANY CB to FS, they have to be physical and have great awareness...I guess youre saying Tillman doesnt possess either skill? The reason it doesnt happen often is many of the great CBs have too big an ego to admit theyve lost a step. I can name several that have done it...look around the league. The Patriots starting safeties are BOTH converted CBs...
 

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Sure, you cant just move ANY CB to FS, they have to be physical and have great awareness...I guess youre saying Tillman doesnt possess either skill? The reason it doesnt happen often is many of the great CBs have too big an ego to admit theyve lost a step. I can name several that have done it...look around the league. The Patriots starting safeties are BOTH converted CBs...

I was actually talking about Carr.
 

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I guess that it's just a random coincidence that most posts that complain about man vs zone coverage reference only the CBs.

Even when we use man coverage, with Kiffin 90% of the time it is going to be a cover-2 look with two deep safeties. Same as it is when we run tampa-2. The variance for the safeties between those coverages is very minimal. Towards the end of the season when we went to more cover-3 and cover-1/cover-0, then things really changed for the safeties, but by that time the entire defense was limping.

I don't think most posters are lost on the fact the coverage effects the entire defensive backfield. I think it is simply much easier to see the cornerbacks play because our issue was predominately against the short and intermediate, which is the CB's responsibility 9 times out of 10 in the defense we ran last year.

I didn't mean to come across as crass. There has just been a real attitude of "I'm smarter than you" around here lately and your post about people not know how the defensive schemes effect different players, sort of came across that way. Im sure it wasn't your intention.
 

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Here's a question for everyone. Would anyone be opposed to bringing in Tillman and putting Carr at safety ? Then going front 7 in draft

I'm more of an advocate of having Claiborne playing like a guy we picked 6th overall, keeping Carr where he was paid $10 million/ yr to play and finding a legitimate safety to play there whether through the draft or FA.
 

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Not even marinelli can turn this defense around. We need a big influx of talent on the defensive front seven and probably one good safety. If we don't find 3 new starters this offseason through draft and FA, marinelli wont have much to work with.

Bingo, I see where posters here are still looking to bring in old veterans. The team does not need old expensive players but an influx of very good young players who will keep this team in the top 10 teams for a while. This starts and ends with good drafting for needs. The stars on this team except for a few young players who have good careers (except Romo) should all be let go for draft picks. Seattle has the best blue print for how to build a team from scratch including starting in the trenches. Jerry, if you read this you should watch this Super Bowl and finally learn how to build a championship team.

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I agree with the poster here that Marinelli won't have muck to work with. Unless of course he is allow to pick his players (Who and where in the draft).
 

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Just watched the tribute video about Tillman on "2014 NFL Honors". I never really had an opinion about him, but after watching this, I realized he is a good man and would be proud to have him come in for certain packages :)

That piece got to me, can't imagine having my little girl face what his had to.
 

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If kiff was bad so was marinelli. I don't see why people can't get it through their head that marinelli had as much say in the d as kiff. If we run out the same riff raff as we did last year the results will be the same.

No I can't get that through my head.
 
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