News: BTB: The Dallas Cowboys 2011-2017 Salary Cap Health Manifesto Part I: You've Been Lied To

[Alexander]

This is my biggest beef with the Jones Boys. They may know what they are doing with the cap but they are challenged on personnel management and talent evaluation.

I agree they know the tricks to create cap room, but the way they go about it does not suggest they know what they are doing. It violates the principles of the cap and is somewhat clever in a way. But it is destructive force that can ruin a team if it is recklessly adopted, which it is. It basically puts two strikes on you every offseason.

 

[Hoofbite]

I agree they know the tricks to create cap room, but the way they go about it does not suggest they know what they are doing. It violates the principles of the cap and is somewhat clever in a way. But it is destructive force that can ruin a team if it is recklessly adopted, which it is. It basically puts two strikes on you every offseason.

It's a bottom-up erosion. Likely explains why the team has no depth on defense. Don't even have starters at some spots.

You increase prorated portion of the cap and you decrease what's left for base salaries.

Base salaries are where you get depth cause they're most often guys not worthy of large paycheck to prorate.

Instead of quality depth you have bottom tier vets and rookies on minimums.

Part of the reason they keep going after these projects and wishing well players is that they desperately need to hit on one to get the better play they cannot afford.

 

[Common Sense]

It's a bottom-up erosion. Likely explains why the team has no depth on defense. Don't even have starters at some spots.

You increase prorated portion of the cap and you decrease what's left for base salaries.

Base salaries are where you get depth cause they're most often guys not worthy of large paycheck to prorate.

Instead of quality depth you have bottom tier vets and rookies on minimums.

Part of the reason they keep going after these projects and wishing well players is that they desperately need to hit on one to get the better play they cannot afford.

Part of proper cap management is knowing, say, that the "going rate" for a free agent starting CB in 2012 is grossly inflated and those resources should be spent elsewhere.

 

[morasp]

anyone could field a 53 man roster and be under the cap.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Part of proper cap management is knowing, say, that the "going rate" for a free agent starting CB in 2012 is grossly inflated and those resources should be spent elsewhere.

The going rate? What did the Rams pay as the going rate for Cortland Finnegan PRIOR to Dallas signing Carr? Um huh, . . . . . . . and Dallas paid how much for Carr? Answer: $100,000 more than the Rams paid for Finnegan.

 

[Common Sense]

The going rate? What did the Rams pay as the going rate for Cortland Finnegan PRIOR to Dallas signing Carr? Um huh, . . . . . . . and Dallas paid how much for Carr? Answer: $100,000 more than the Rams paid for Finnegan.

Correct.

 

[Stash]

Nothing to see here. We can sign anyone we want. We just don't want to.

Hope it turns out as good as last year!

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I agree they know the tricks to create cap room, but the way they go about it does not suggest they know what they are doing. It violates the principles of the cap and is somewhat clever in a way. But it is destructive force that can ruin a team if it is recklessly adopted, which it is. It basically puts two strikes on you every offseason.

Well, as Jerry always prefaces, "In my mind." I don't agree with it of course but he does have some weird, warped, maniacal way of doing things. I also agree that his way appears to be "destructive" and "reckless" but that is, or it appears to be, his very nature.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

The article has to do with the salary cap and managing it with the future in view. Knowing the cap and how it will grow in the future is a separate issue from having players that are good.

Article posted -

Article doesnt fit the typical bash Jerry narrative -

Article will get "refute like" comments in typical Twilight Zone fashion -

Numerous posts will be based in denial and willfully ignoring the evidence -

Nothing at all will resemble any critical thinking in this thread -

Thread will be a minimum 5 pages -

Life in the Zone will continue with the same parroted responses no matter what's presented about the FO -

Forgot one:

Article will cause a whole lotta butthurt for those not willing to allow for the fact that Jerry maybe can do a thing or two right even tho the results are the same -

 

[Stash]

Forgot one:

Article will cause a whole lotta butthurt for those not willing to allow for the fact that Jerry maybe can do a thing or two right even tho the results are the same -

Glad you included that 'even tho the results are the same' disclaimer.

Thumbs up!

 

[Frosty]

This is my biggest beef with the Jones Boys. They may know what they are doing with the cap but they are challenged on personnel management and talent evaluation.

Prior to the Salary Cap...3 Superbowl Championships............After the Salary Cap was instituted...1 Playoff win in what 17 to 18 years.....uuuuhm. I geuss they know what they are doing.... but Al Davis thought the same thing to.

 

[Bullflop]

This article does quite a spin job on the supposed genius that is Jerry and Stephen. Ultimately it's nothing other than spin. Proliferating a condition of constantly being challenged to stay within the cap while not being able to afford sufficient help from the free agent pro ranks is simply damaging. Proper management entails more than simply that, though. Knowledge of evaluating talent is crucial to every general manager. Staying out of cap hell is just as crucial. We suck at both.

 

[burmafrd]

This article does quite a spin job on the supposed genius that is Jerry and Stephen. Ultimately it's nothing other than spin. Proliferating a condition of constantly being challenged to stay within the cap while not being able to afford sufficient help from the free agent pro ranks is simply damaging. Proper management entails more than simply that, though. Knowledge of evaluating talent is crucial to every general manager. Staying out of cap hell is just as crucial. We suck at both.

and the article ignores the fact that the cap both this year and last year were only set at the last moment. Because no one knew until then what all the expenses would be that come off the top. And that will continue for the forseeable future. Yes it will go up but NO ONE knows how much how fast. Try and make a long term expensive contract without knowing how much money you will have three years from now.

 

[Alexander]

Instead of quality depth you have bottom tier vets and rookies on minimums.

Part of the reason they keep going after these projects and wishing well players is that they desperately need to hit on one to get the better play they cannot afford.

In short, yes, it puts too much pressure on the drafting process that is inexact science to begin with. It also could prompt swinging for the fences in the hopes of getting payoff.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas Cowboys "cap mismanagement" seems to be a trending topic recently. We'll explain why it just isn't so.

Great article. Jones taken a ton a heat for salary cap mismanagement but he always finds a way to be in compliance. One of the few things we do well.

 

[OhSnap]

So if we are good at drafting and free agency, why are we so talent poor on defense? Honest question. Why are we the only team doing it like this?

Where did you see that at? and the Cowboys aren't the only team over the cap every year.

 

[OhSnap]

I think I'm going to blow that picture up and given to my buddy Risen Star for Christmas... I can see the tears of joy running down his cheeks now.

lotta people gonna have fun with that one.

 

[slomoxn]

I could care less about their cap management, just because you have a million dollars doesn't mean you pay 300,000 for a Yugo when there is a Mercedes sitting next to it for less. That's my problem with them, not so much how they spend it but what they are spending it on; so yes they still suck at cap management even if they have a plan. Marion Barber is probably still going to his mailbox each week and sending a letter to Jerry saying thank you. As a matter of fact a few playea or ex-players on this team are, and before anyone says all teams have that problem... I don't root for all teams so I don't care what their problems are. I'm a Cowboys fan!

 

[skinsscalper]

and the article ignores the fact that the cap both this year and last year were only set at the last moment. Because no one knew until then what all the expenses would be that come off the top. And that will continue for the forseeable future. Yes it will go up but NO ONE knows how much how fast. Try and make a long term expensive contract without knowing how much money you will have three years from now.

I'm pretty sure that the guy who helped write up the whole agreement has a pretty good idea how it's structured and when the money will hit the coffers. I don't agree with some of Jones' personnel decisions but the notion that he's flailing in the wind as far as the cap goes is wishful thinking by the people that look for every opportunity to bash the guy.

 

[Blackspider214]

Great article. I know some won't like it because it goes against the jones boys don't know what they are doing mantra. But SJ did say sometime back that he wasn't worried about the cap and that they could sign who they wanted. Maybe he opened his mouth and let the cat out of the bag at that time. But it does make sense that they could've seen this coming or knew what was going to happen. IF they did know well shoot maybe they aren't just a couple of idiots after all.

Yet we have to restructure every single season and have so little depth that one injury sends us into a tailspin.

So yes, I am going to say they really do not know what they are doing.

This team has no identity or no direction.