Build this team the normal way; no more gimics

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Look at how we have tried to win in the past 7 years
1. We have tried two ex professional pitchers at QB
2. We have tried to win with a lacklaster defensive coordinator named Dave Campo
3. We started Vinny Testaverde at QB
4. We passed up Stephen Jackson for a much undersized RB who was known to have injury problems and difficulty with the short yardage game in college
5. We start Roy Williams at free safety despite knowing his coverage skills are weak and that he is much better suited at strong safety
6. We went into the season starting Pete Hunter at cornerback assuming all would work out well
7. Should we mentionall all the ballsy yet stupid moves we have made in starting the wrong people on the offensive lines. I'll let you have your choice there
8. We fire our best kicking coach risk our kicking games with losers. And then we think we have a winner when we take the kicker who was dumped by his recent team for choking and was known to have pyschological problems.
9. We reached for a QB by 4 rounds because we wanted the next Michael Vick and feared the Raiders (yes the frickin Raiders of all teams) would select him. If the Raiders want any particular QB, maybe that's a sign to ignore that player.
10 This is one of the best drafts in years and we select Carpenter at LB.

I could go on but you get the point. I'm just sick of Jerry and our recent string of coaches trying to win the unorthodox way. I'm sick of these guys try to impress people by doing things their own way instead of the right way.

I've had it. Give me some losing but at least give a young and promising coaching staff that has a reputation for teaching. Give me a young coaching staff that is actually coveted by other NFL teams at the moment and not a "sleeper" head coach.

Give me a traditional QB, OL, FS, Cornerback! Fine, I'll take losing for the next 2 years but I want to feel like our team is progressing and developing and not losing in some unorthodox and silly way.

For example, get a regular QB that everyone wants. Yes, the 6'4 pocket passer that is a sure-fire top 10 pick that people are calling a genius. Yes I know he could be the next Ryan Leif..yada...yada...yada but I don't want any baseball players or undrafted guys. Start a guy at tackle that is worthy of the position and not some guy you want covert because you think you are a genius. Pick players in the draft that other teams are competing for instead of a sleeper pick.

Seriously, I would like a little bit of "normal" around here. I'm sick of trying to win with band-aid solutions.
 
mr.jameswoods;1296274 said:
Look at how we have tried to win in the past 7 years
1. We have tried two ex professional pitchers at QB
2. We have tried to win with a lacklaster defensive coordinator named Dave Campo
3. We started Vinny Testaverde at QB
4. We passed up Stephen Jackson for a much undersized RB who was known to have injury problems and difficulty with the short yardage game in college
5. We start Roy Williams at free safety despite knowing his coverage skills are weak and that he is much better suited at strong safety
6. We went into the season starting Pete Hunter at cornerback assuming all would work out well
7. Should we mentionall all the ballsy yet stupid moves we have made in starting the wrong people on the offensive lines. I'll let you have your choice there
8. We fire our best kicking coach risk our kicking games with losers. And then we think we have a winner when we take the kicker who was dumped by his recent team for choking and was known to have pyschological problems.
9. We reached for a QB by 4 rounds because we wanted the next Michael Vick and feared the Raiders (yes the frickin Raiders of all teams) would select him. If the Raiders want any particular QB, maybe that's a sign to ignore that player.
10 This is one of the best drafts in years and we select Carpenter at LB.

I could go on but you get the point. I'm just sick of Jerry and our recent string of coaches trying to win the unorthodox way. I'm sick of these guys try to impress people by doing things their own way instead of the right way.

I've had it. Give me some losing but at least give a young and promising coaching staff that has a reputation for teaching. Give me a young coaching staff that is actually coveted by other NFL teams at the moment and not a "sleeper" head coach.

Give me a traditional QB, OL, FS, Cornerback! Fine, I'll take losing for the next 2 years but I want to feel like our team is progressing and developing and not losing in some unorthodox and silly way.

For example, get a regular QB that everyone wants. Yes, the 6'4 pocket passer that is a sure-fire top 10 pick that people are calling a genius. Yes I know he could be the next Ryan Leif..yada...yada...yada but I don't want any baseball players or undrafted guys. Start a guy at tackle that is worthy of the position and not some guy you want covert because you think you are a genius. Pick players in the draft that other teams are competing for instead of a sleeper pick.

Seriously, I would like a little bit of "normal" around here. I'm sick of trying to win with band-aid solutions.

# 4 sounds a lot like Emmitt Smith.

Ask the Patriots how important it is to have a top 10 pick QB.
 
mr.jameswoods;1296274 said:
Look at how we have tried to win in the past 7 years
1. We have tried two ex professional pitchers at QB
2. We have tried to win with a lacklaster defensive coordinator named Dave Campo
3. We started Vinny Testaverde at QB
4. We passed up Stephen Jackson for a much undersized RB who was known to have injury problems and difficulty with the short yardage game in college
5. We start Roy Williams at free safety despite knowing his coverage skills are weak and that he is much better suited at strong safety
6. We went into the season starting Pete Hunter at cornerback assuming all would work out well
7. Should we mentionall all the ballsy yet stupid moves we have made in starting the wrong people on the offensive lines. I'll let you have your choice there
8. We fire our best kicking coach risk our kicking games with losers. And then we think we have a winner when we take the kicker who was dumped by his recent team for choking and was known to have pyschological problems.
9. We reached for a QB by 4 rounds because we wanted the next Michael Vick and feared the Raiders (yes the frickin Raiders of all teams) would select him. If the Raiders want any particular QB, maybe that's a sign to ignore that player.
10 This is one of the best drafts in years and we select Carpenter at LB.

I could go on but you get the point. I'm just sick of Jerry and our recent string of coaches trying to win the unorthodox way. I'm sick of these guys try to impress people by doing things their own way instead of the right way.

I've had it. Give me some losing but at least give a young and promising coaching staff that has a reputation for teaching. Give me a young coaching staff that is actually coveted by other NFL teams at the moment and not a "sleeper" head coach.

Give me a traditional QB, OL, FS, Cornerback! Fine, I'll take losing for the next 2 years but I want to feel like our team is progressing and developing and not losing in some unorthodox and silly way.

For example, get a regular QB that everyone wants. Yes, the 6'4 pocket passer that is a sure-fire top 10 pick that people are calling a genius. Yes I know he could be the next Ryan Leif..yada...yada...yada but I don't want any baseball players or undrafted guys. Start a guy at tackle that is worthy of the position and not some guy you want covert because you think you are a genius. Pick players in the draft that other teams are competing for instead of a sleeper pick.

Seriously, I would like a little bit of "normal" around here. I'm sick of trying to win with band-aid solutions.

Well we do have a brilliant GM.:rolleyes:
 
GoinForSix;1296317 said:
# 4 sounds a lot like Emmitt Smith.

Ask the Patriots how important it is to have a top 10 pick QB.

Yeah, I get that and askthe uneducated 1 million dollar slots winner how important it is to get an education in regards to earning a high income. You can rely on luck if you want.

#4, No Emmitt Smith didn't struggle with the short yardage game. In fact, that was his strength in college.
 
mr.jameswoods;1296274 said:
Look at how we have tried to win in the past 7 years
1. We have tried two ex professional pitchers at QB
2. We have tried to win with a lacklaster defensive coordinator named Dave Campo
3. We started Vinny Testaverde at QB
4. We passed up Stephen Jackson for a much undersized RB who was known to have injury problems and difficulty with the short yardage game in college
5. We start Roy Williams at free safety despite knowing his coverage skills are weak and that he is much better suited at strong safety
6. We went into the season starting Pete Hunter at cornerback assuming all would work out well
7. Should we mentionall all the ballsy yet stupid moves we have made in starting the wrong people on the offensive lines. I'll let you have your choice there
8. We fire our best kicking coach risk our kicking games with losers. And then we think we have a winner when we take the kicker who was dumped by his recent team for choking and was known to have pyschological problems.
9. We reached for a QB by 4 rounds because we wanted the next Michael Vick and feared the Raiders (yes the frickin Raiders of all teams) would select him. If the Raiders want any particular QB, maybe that's a sign to ignore that player.
10 This is one of the best drafts in years and we select Carpenter at LB.

I could go on but you get the point. I'm just sick of Jerry and our recent string of coaches trying to win the unorthodox way. I'm sick of these guys try to impress people by doing things their own way instead of the right way.

I've had it. Give me some losing but at least give a young and promising coaching staff that has a reputation for teaching. Give me a young coaching staff that is actually coveted by other NFL teams at the moment and not a "sleeper" head coach.

Give me a traditional QB, OL, FS, Cornerback! Fine, I'll take losing for the next 2 years but I want to feel like our team is progressing and developing and not losing in some unorthodox and silly way.

For example, get a regular QB that everyone wants. Yes, the 6'4 pocket passer that is a sure-fire top 10 pick that people are calling a genius. Yes I know he could be the next Ryan Leif..yada...yada...yada but I don't want any baseball players or undrafted guys. Start a guy at tackle that is worthy of the position and not some guy you want covert because you think you are a genius. Pick players in the draft that other teams are competing for instead of a sleeper pick.

Seriously, I would like a little bit of "normal" around here. I'm sick of trying to win with band-aid solutions.

5. Last time I checked, Roy Williams is starting at Strong Safety. He started at Free Safety when we had some guy named Darren Woodson playing strong. Maybe you remember him. After he retired, Roy made the switch to strong.

10. I don't know about you, but I saw Bobby Carpenter play his *** off tonight in his first start. That was a very bright spot in tonights game, and made me excited about next season in case Ellis isn't good to go.
 
mr.jameswoods;1296343 said:
Yeah, I get that and askthe uneducated 1 million dollar slots winner how important it is to get an education in regards to earning a high income. You can rely on luck if you want.

#4, No Emmitt Smith didn't struggle with the short yardage game. In fact, that was his strength in college.

Since 2000 Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady (3x), Brad Johnson, and Big Ben have won the Super Bowl. Seems like top 10 picks just don't seem to work out huh.
 
The first thing I would suggest for improving this team is fixing the interior of the OL and finding Flo's replacement - Kosier and Rivera are not the type of players you play smashmouth football with as BP seems to want to do.
 
GoinForSix;1296372 said:
Since 2000 Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady (3x), Brad Johnson, and Big Ben have won the Super Bowl. Seems like top 10 picks just don't seem to work out huh.

Trent Dilfer was the 6th overall pick (nice research)
Big Ben was the 11 overall pick. Wow you got me there
 
Japanese summo wrestlers are on their way to Dallas to shore up the o-line, the rest of the team will be re-engineered with bionic parts at Stately Jones Manor in his secret laboratories.

Genetically flawless super athletes should be available to sign as UFA's in approximately 18 years time, depending on the cloning processes conducted by Cowboy geneticists, this will make the winning all the sweeter after the wait.
 
GoinForSix;1296372 said:
Since 2000 Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady (3x), Brad Johnson, and Big Ben have won the Super Bowl. Seems like top 10 picks just don't seem to work out huh.

mr.jameswoods;1296394 said:
Trent Dilfer was the 6th overall pick (nice research)
Big Ben was the 11 overall pick. Wow you got me there

ok 2 top 15 picks...the others were undrafted so thats

2 - 3...who wins?
 
mr.jameswoods;1296394 said:
Trent Dilfer was the 6th overall pick (nice research)
Big Ben was the 11 overall pick. Wow you got me there

Point proven.
 
Eskimo;1296383 said:
The first thing I would suggest for improving this team is fixing the interior of the OL and finding Flo's replacement - Kosier and Rivera are not the type of players you play smashmouth football with as BP seems to want to do.

Couldn't agree more.
 

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