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Hoofbite;3276340 said:
My aunt did that with her son all the way until he was 18.

When he turned 18, she couldn't bail him out anymore and he's now serving time for something I don't even care to know.

Just curious but did he have a father playing an active role in his life?
 

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Truly sad on so many levels. I love this country, but it's a far cry from what it once was and could be.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3053663 said:
I was listening to a report on the radio the other day that said children of this generation are to full of self gratification that they don't recognize other people except when it has an immediate and direct affect on there own personal situation. Essentially, it said that they are so full of themselves that they have no conscience. They don't care about other people or social rules. They feel as if they are above or beyond rules and that they simply do not apply to them. According to the person speaking, they seemed to think that it steemed from the fact that we have raised these children in such a way as to constintly tell them that they are special and unique. That they are more important then anything. The Dr. went on to say that we have insulated children from life to the point that even when mistakes are made by children, we overlook them and the mistakes have little or no consequences. They are not forced to deal with real world problems and as such, they don't live in the real world. I thought it was interesting.

I have a friend that's my age and his parents did that to him. When he became an adult, he had no ability to understand the real world, and how to socially interact with other people that weren't telling him how awesome he was. Sad, really.

We have a young-ish kid (not our child, thankfully) in the family that is just like that, and it's very frustrating.

I can guarantee you that our daughter will not be one of those children.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3053663 said:
I was listening to a report on the radio the other day that said children of this generation are to full of self gratification that they don't recognize other people except when it has an immediate and direct affect on there own personal situation. Essentially, it said that they are so full of themselves that they have no conscience. They don't care about other people or social rules. They feel as if they are above or beyond rules and that they simply do not apply to them. According to the person speaking, they seemed to think that it steemed from the fact that we have raised these children in such a way as to constintly tell them that they are special and unique. That they are more important then anything. The Dr. went on to say that we have insulated children from life to the point that even when mistakes are made by children, we overlook them and the mistakes have little or no consequences. They are not forced to deal with real world problems and as such, they don't live in the real world. I thought it was interesting.

I don't think it's that simple ABQ. I have three children, with the oldest being 13. I have insulated these children to an extent because they can't do today what many of us did when we were their age. We'd take our bikes, stay out most of the day playing ball and come back before dinner. Those days are long gone. The "real world" is a dangerous place because of people who were told they were nothing and received so little love, affection and direction that, as adults, they see no value in another person's life; they lack empathy and sensitivity.

I have told my children on numerous occasions that there is nothing more important in my world than them. I have told them that they are unique. I give them more hugs per day than I can think of. But the key, at least to me, is that I do not overlook their mistakes and I have not forgotten to play the role of disciplinarian. The parental attitude of "my child can do no wrong," as ethiostar alluded to below, is underlying problem, IMHO.

ethiostar;3276250 said:
Thats an interesting take for sure and a lot of truth to that.

As for the bolded part, a good example of that is when a teacher has to talk to the parents of a child about his conduct at school and the parents refusing to believe it. "No, my child wouldn't do such a thing", etc.... Its as if they take offense that someone is pointing out that their child isn't perfect and he/she needs some discipline. God forbid.

Well said ethiostar and I agree. That type of attitude empowers kids. In my younger years, I graduated with a degree in secondary education and was shocked at the responses I would get from parents of failing kids. There was no talking any sense to them because it was always everyone else's fault. These kids didn't stand a chance.
 

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Everyone now is told about their freedoms and rights- but NEVER are told that with Freedom and Rights comes RESPONSIBILITIES. And this BS that there is no black and white is just that. There is plenty that is black and white like this terrible crime.

Kids are brought up now to be thought to be better then they are- and this is reinforced in schools where you are not allowed to lose a game since they do not keep scores. Everyone WINS all the time. Then the kids have to grow up and face a world where they WILL be rejected and told they are not much and NO will be a common response. No wonder they cannot handle it. Schools and the modern parent and all those so called experts that say not to spank the children and have a "Time Out" are flat wrong. Kids must be taught at an early age that deliberately misbehaving and disobeying and breaking the rules will have consequences that get more serious the worse that you do. You need to know how to handle rejection and failure and losing and being told "No" at an early age and have THAT reinforced through your growing up. Balanced by being told when you do good and succeed. And above all else that NOTHING will just be "given" to you and that there are really no such things as "entitlements" except to the poor and stupid and ill. That you must WORK to succeed.
 

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Faerluna;3276406 said:
I have a friend that's my age and his parents did that to him. When he became an adult, he had no ability to understand the real world, and how to socially interact with other people that weren't telling him how awesome he was. Sad, really.

We have a young-ish kid (not our child, thankfully) in the family that is just like that, and it's very frustrating.

I can guarantee you that our daughter will not be one of those children.

she's too cute to be like that
 

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TheEnigma;3276350 said:
Just curious but did he have a father playing an active role in his life?

No more or less than his brother who doesn't have a criminal record multiple pages long.

Then again, his brother didn't get the benefit of every doubt growing up.
 

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burmafrd;3276460 said:
Everyone now is told about their freedoms and rights- but NEVER are told that with Freedom and Rights comes RESPONSIBILITIES. And this BS that there is no black and white is just that. There is plenty that is black and white like this terrible crime.

Kids are brought up now to be thought to be better then they are- and this is reinforced in schools where you are not allowed to lose a game since they do not keep scores. Everyone WINS all the time. Then the kids have to grow up and face a world where they WILL be rejected and told they are not much and NO will be a common response. No wonder they cannot handle it. Schools and the modern parent and all those so called experts that say not to spank the children and have a "Time Out" are flat wrong. Kids must be taught at an early age that deliberately misbehaving and disobeying and breaking the rules will have consequences that get more serious the worse that you do. You need to know how to handle rejection and failure and losing and being told "No" at an early age and have THAT reinforced through your growing up. Balanced by being told when you do good and succeed. And above all else that NOTHING will just be "given" to you and that there are really no such things as "entitlements" except to the poor and stupid and ill. That you must WORK to succeed.


this is exactly how i feel
 
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